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George Carlin, American Radical
The Nation ^ | 23 June 2008 | John Nichols

Posted on 06/25/2008 4:30:49 PM PDT by Publius

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A remarkable man with a remarkable insight into American politics and society. I was not in agreement with him all that much, but at least he made me think.
1 posted on 06/25/2008 4:30:49 PM PDT by Publius
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I never liked the man. Actually, I could not stand him! His aim seemed to be to lower the culture in his vulgarity.

RIP

Sorry.

2 posted on 06/25/2008 4:36:05 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck?.. Naah :))
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To: Publius

He was really just an angry old man at the end. His last HBO special was unwatchable. It was about an old guy being angry instead of funny.

Hope he is doing better at the “commoneweal” as calls it. Others call it the dole.


4 posted on 06/25/2008 4:36:47 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: Publius
government is supposed to be here to redress the inequities of the marketplace,"

Not sure if I agree with this.

6 posted on 06/25/2008 4:41:00 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: ElPatriota
I am with you. I could never stand the guy. I love good comedy, but he passed that and went directly to vulgar beyond words. He was like many of the comedians now days, they think every other word has to be the F word. I cannot stand that. Sometimes, maybe the word makes the joke, but not 100% of the time. I simply did not like him or his material. So, George, good bye, so long, this was your last gig.
7 posted on 06/25/2008 4:41:59 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama is a lying piece of Marxist dung. He will destroy this Republic. He is an idiot.)
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To: Publius

Any idea how many of his collected potatoes he gave to those who had none?


8 posted on 06/25/2008 4:42:01 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Publius
If there's a really solid safety net (welfare system) then the world gets overpopulated with slackers.

If there is little or no safetly net then the world gets overpopulated with materialist jerkwads.

The person who solves this problem deserves a Nobel Prize.

9 posted on 06/25/2008 4:43:53 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: GSWarrior

The US Government started “redressing the inequities of the marketplace” when it passed the first tariffs into law in the 1820’s. So it’s not like we just started yesterday.


10 posted on 06/25/2008 4:43:59 PM PDT by Publius (Another Republican for Obama -- NOT!!)
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To: Publius

Carlin was a filthy moron who used his life’s energy damaging and decaying society. There was nothing remarkable or insightful about him.

There are those who create, and those that destroy, and he was a destroyer.

My respects are reserved for God and those that strive to be virtuous.


11 posted on 06/25/2008 4:46:27 PM PDT by Dragonspirit (No to Obama, Osama and Chelsea's mama!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
If there is little or no safetly net then the world gets overpopulated with materialist jerkwads.

Interesting observation. In the popular children's literature of the era before the New Deal, the Horatio Alger books all had heroes who obsessed over every penny on their inevitable way to success. You may have something there.

12 posted on 06/25/2008 4:47:18 PM PDT by Publius (Another Republican for Obama -- NOT!!)
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To: Publius
"Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians," he explained in a routine that challenged all the premises of today's half-a-loaf reformers. "Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens.

This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public.

I have to say theres some bitter truth to that

13 posted on 06/25/2008 4:48:45 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Publius
Carlin did not want Americans to get involved with the system.

He wanted citizens to get angry enough to remake the system.

I don't know. He was certainly angry about things, but I don't think he signed on to any program or ideology.

When you have your own soap box, you don't have to be a joiner or a follower or a card-carrying anything.

You can just be a public curmudgeon or gadfly, rather than a supporter of this or that movement.

14 posted on 06/25/2008 4:49:19 PM PDT by x
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To: romanesq
I saw that. He looked dead already. His lines about education and teaching self esteem along with the child worship lines were good.

He is like Dennis Miller was but Carlin never really woke up to reality all the way.

15 posted on 06/25/2008 4:51:46 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Publius

This wasn’t a tribute to Carlin. This article used Carlin to backhand the Republicans.


16 posted on 06/25/2008 4:51:48 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Publius

Well, I’ll say this. He nailed the process of choosing political candidates in this country.


17 posted on 06/25/2008 4:52:38 PM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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To: Publius

HAs he been dead long enough now to start kicking him or do we have to wait another couple of weeks?


18 posted on 06/25/2008 4:53:55 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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No he was an asshole and probably would love to be kicked.


20 posted on 06/25/2008 4:54:57 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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He is good for kicking now. Always has been.....


22 posted on 06/25/2008 4:56:39 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: normy

9/11 woke up Dennis Miller (he still has young children and a wife)...Carlin was widowed long ago...his only daughter grown...and well, sadly he morphed into cranky old man w/a microphone status. Miller had enough on his personal plate to ‘see the big picture.’


23 posted on 06/25/2008 4:57:38 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
These actors and comedians and politicians who don't actually work but make huge sums of moneyt could vow to live on 50 or 75,000 a year and donate the rest. It's not as if they spend 60 hours a week in a coal mine. Bunch of hypocrites
24 posted on 06/25/2008 4:58:08 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Publius

poor thing, lived too long.


25 posted on 06/25/2008 4:58:36 PM PDT by Waco
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

guess that’s the difference.


26 posted on 06/25/2008 4:58:55 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: stylin19a
Every article in The Nation is intended to take a shot at Republicans. You learn to expect it and filter that stuff out after a while.
27 posted on 06/25/2008 5:00:01 PM PDT by Publius (Another Republican for Obama -- NOT!!)
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Nailed the poli~pickin'~process, yes, but to be fair, there's an old Appalachion mountain joke "..why should I vote, the people who control things ain't on them ballots!"
28 posted on 06/25/2008 5:00:30 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Publius

Carlin’s reliance on reading from index cards in his act always turned me off. If you can’t remember jokes you have been doing since the 1960s, your brain is shot beyond repair.


29 posted on 06/25/2008 5:01:09 PM PDT by Sgt Joe Friday 714
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“The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ‘cause that’s what it does.”

Well he’s right about that.

Olbermann played an old clip of Carlin on his show saying that Countdown was the only show that told it like it is.

True colors were shown with that remark..


31 posted on 06/25/2008 5:12:41 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Publius
I admit, I saw him in concert in 1990, and he was hysterical. Having said that, he was definitely a 60's radical throwback, but he'd occasionally call a spade a spade and surprise a lot of people. Some ideas - on both sides of the coin - just beg to be called out. Was he vulgar? Yes. But, the first time I heard the 'Filthy Words' bit live, it was 20 years ago, in the cassette deck of my car. I don't know how I kept from wrapping it around a tree, I laughed so hard. He was a mad genius. But aren't so many of them? LOL


32 posted on 06/25/2008 5:13:36 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak and Michelle: The Sheik and The Freak.)
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I was speaking sardonically.


33 posted on 06/25/2008 5:14:10 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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George Carlin was one of the most liberal and disgusting people in comedy. He was never even funny. He also talked about his drug use which probably led to his heart problems. I will not miss or mourn this radical idiots death.

http://www.johnmccain.com/landing/?sid=gorganic


34 posted on 06/25/2008 5:14:20 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (John McCain 2008!)
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"Give Joey some of your potatoes...." And I'm more inclined to want to share and even out...."

I think he was more inclined to tell other people to share rather than do the sharing himself.

He had some funny bits and some insightful bits, but it was a lot of the same for the past few decades. Not much wheat for all the chaff, really.

35 posted on 06/25/2008 5:14:53 PM PDT by whd23
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LOL - he was a genius.


36 posted on 06/25/2008 5:16:31 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: vietvet67
..yes, despite all the poo poo comments, he was brave enough to speak up about what most of us won't, even though we know it's so, I guess we're afraid we get as despondent & angry as he was if we admit same.
37 posted on 06/25/2008 5:16:45 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: ElPatriota

I don’t know, he was the voice on Thomas the Train. My daughter was watching that this evening and I was reminded of him when I heard his voice.

I guess he wasn’t all vulgar. Of course I wouldn’t take her to one of his shows.


38 posted on 06/25/2008 5:16:56 PM PDT by autumnraine
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Oh yes he was to funny! Ever hear his ‘stuff’ routine? Or baseball vs. football? He!!, he even made the spelling of his name funny...


39 posted on 06/25/2008 5:19:10 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: ElPatriota
I never liked the man. Actually, I could not stand him! His aim seemed to be to lower the culture in his vulgarity.

Very well put. He was a vulgar man who made himself rich by ridiculing all that was good in America.

RIH.

40 posted on 06/25/2008 5:21:39 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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“I was speaking sardonically.”

And I was just using a keyboard. Funny, that.


41 posted on 06/25/2008 5:23:02 PM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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The guy was funny when Hector was a pup. I can remember seeing him do all six or eight different Boston accents plus running through all the other local dialects throughout New England. He had an ear for it and it was really funny, especially if you knew NE's regions before TV newscasters flattened America's dialects.

Other than that, he was a plain vanilla, boiler-plate lefty all his life, and his so-called "anger" was more the grating whine of a political loser.

42 posted on 06/25/2008 5:23:06 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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I could not agree with you more. I did not always agree with Carlin but I never dismissed his rants and opinions.

I just wish more Democrats and people on the left did the same thing, and questioned what it is they are asking for.


43 posted on 06/25/2008 5:23:47 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriot.......)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Or maybe He’ll just be crucified.


44 posted on 06/25/2008 5:24:35 PM PDT by ShasheMac
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To: Publius

Who got the last 8-ball out of his pocket before they took his sorry ass away?


45 posted on 06/25/2008 5:24:59 PM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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"The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They've got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying – lobbying to get what they want.

This for the most part is the truth.

The corporations and business owners, own D.C. and those in it. Their wealth compared to the wealthiest celebrities, make these celebs appear destitute and poor.

46 posted on 06/25/2008 5:29:31 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Publius

Pryor was much funnier than Carlin.


47 posted on 06/25/2008 5:29:44 PM PDT by csvset
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To: norraad

I don’t fault Carlin for his views but they did turn noticeably left as he aged without recognition of the consequences.

Before that he always entertained me by his ability to cut through the BS and offer the simplistic view which in most cases was correct and somehow shocking for many.

He made many realize that everything doesn’t have to be complex and for that I simply say Rest in Peace..


48 posted on 06/25/2008 5:31:33 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Publius
I'm glad to finally find a thread that agrees with me; George Carlin was nothing. Less than nothing. Maybe he was funny 20 years ago in front of a bunch of drunk college students, but that was a long time ago. He was crude. He was boring. He was the opposite of funny. No wit. No insight. No nuthin’ (except crudity and sarcasm). The man sucked the oxygen out of a room. Goodbye, Carlin. I for one will not miss you. Not even a little bit.
49 posted on 06/25/2008 5:32:00 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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To: ffusco
Any idea how many of his collected potatoes he gave to those who had none?

Good question. I'd imagine that he piled up quite a few potatoes for himself during his Hollywood career. There was nothing stopping him from giving some of his potatoes to poor little Joey, and it would have been comendable if he had chosen to do so.

Not to mention, this whole scenario makes the typical leftist assumption that economics is a zero-sum game. But that's another matter altogether.

50 posted on 06/25/2008 5:33:07 PM PDT by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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