Skip to comments.Obama campaign claims suspect "birth certificate" as genuine item
Posted on 06/25/2008 9:10:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
In response to mounting media questions about the failure of the Barack Obama presidential campaign to produce the presumptive Democratic nominee's birth certificate, an official spokesman of the campaign has endorsed as genuine the image of a document purporting to be his "birth certificate." But some who have examined that image in high resolution claim inconsistencies and irregularities which suggest that the purported document is a forgery. Its high profile use by the campaign, they claim, suggests an attempt to conceal the truth of Obama's birth circumstances and citizenship qualifications from the American people.
The campaign has posted only a low-resolution image of that document, which it claims is his "birth certificate," on its "Fight the Smears" website, along with purported proof of why the claim that Obama may not qualify as a "natural born citizen" is false:
--- Lie: Obama Is Not a Natural Born Citizen
Truth: Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959. Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside...." ---
Contrary to the campaign's claims, the issue of when Hawaii became a state and the wording of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution, are not at issue.
Rather it is Article Two, Section One of the Constitution which requires that the President be a "natural born citizen" and not simply a naturalized citizen. The issue is whether there is proof that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, the legal status of his mother at the time, and what exactly is written on the original birth certificate -- if it in fact such a certificate exists.
Some bloggers have claimed that the purported official State of Hawaii document, originally published by the radical left Daily Kos blog, is a fake, and a poorly executed one at that.
Examination of the higher resolution of the image indicates irregularities which suggest to some that the purported "certificate" may be a forgery produced or modified by Photoshop or another image-editing software, and not a genuine item.
The evidence, presented in greatest detail by the blogger Polarik at TownHall, includes:
1. Use of a second generation reproduction of the seal of the State of Hawaii at the top 2. Blacking out of the Certificate number in an attempt to prevent it from being traced 3. Absence of any official signature or seal which typically appear on such documents 4. Crudely arranged borders inconsistent with a professionally produced official document 5. Crude overlay of the textual items on top of the patterned background, indicating that the background was produced first and then the textual images laid on top of it by a graphical program rather than being scanned from the original. 6. Failure to use the double-S symbol before the listing the relevant statute (HRS 338-13b) as appears in official uses of the State of Hawaii. 7. The appearance of the backward facing text "Jun 6, 2007" that appears to come from a stamp in the lower right hand portion of the document. 8. The description of his father's race as African, when the term Negro was reportedly used at the time of birth. 9. The use of an identical typeface for all text items on the page.
Even if one or two of the above irregularities may have an explanation, they claim, the aggregate points to an amateurish attempt to manufacture an official-looking document that may not exist in the official records of the state of Hawaii.
On its face, this document does not even presume to be a copy of the original birth certificate -- contrary to the claims of the Obama campaign -- but rather a secondary Certification of Live Birth, which may be used when the original birth certificate can't be located, and can be produced after the fact with just the affadavits of a family member, or even the child himself.
The Obama campaign, however, has not even produced a paper version of this document, and indeed it does not even publish the high resolution version that appeared on the Daily Kos. It has not fulfilled the media's persistent requests to produce the original Birth Certificate, or to respond to media questions about the birth certificate controversy.
What could be the Obama campaign's motive for withholding the original birth certificate and passing off instead a crudely forged facsimile of a "Certification of Live Birth"?
Speculation in the blogosphere and mainstream media is rampant that the concealment is for one or more of the following reasons:
1. There is no proof that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. 2. The father listed on the birth certificate is not Barack Hussein Obama. 3. The father's race is listed as something other than African, perhaps Muslim or Arab. 4. The mother was no longer at that time an American citizen. 5. The child's name is not listed as Barack Hussein Obama II.
Jim Geraghty, reporting on the Campaign Spot blog of the National Review and one of the original writers on the controversy, cited the "rumor" that Obama was born not within the United States, but elsewhere, possibly Kenya.
Geraghty stated that "If Obama were born outside the United States, one could argue that he would not meet the legal definition of natural-born citizen -- because U.S. law at the time of his birth required his natural-born parent (his mother) to have resided in the United States for '10 years, at least [f]ive of which had to be after the age of 16.'"
He then points out that Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, was 18 when Obama was born "so she wouldn't have met the requirement of five years after the age of 16."
According to FindLaw.com, cited by Geraghty, the requirements that were in force from Dec. 24, 1952 to Nov. 13, 1986, encompassing the time of Obama's birth, state, "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."
Geraghty said the Obama campaign could "debunk" the rumors about his birth simply by releasing a copy of his birth certificate, but the campaign has so far chosen not to do that.
The seriousness of this latest controversy cannot be underestimated. Unlike the scandals related to Obama's various associations with unsavory characters, or claims about his Muslim upbringing, the issue here relates to his citizenship and legal qualification to run for President of the United States.
One would have thought that the most basic documentary proof of the location and date of his birth should be a basic and non-controversial requirement for any presidential candidate, and part of the public record, much more so than one's tax return or annual checkup. It is almost incomprehensible that they would withhold this information -- unless there is something to hide.
Ironically, a similar controversy surrounded Obama's likely opponent in the Presidential race, John McCain. McCain was born to two American parents, one of whom was serving in a US military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone.
This Washington Post column on "Citizen McCain's Panama Problem?" examines the issue:
"McCain was indeed born in the Canal Zone, and Article II of the Constitution plainly states that 'no person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President.'
"Some might define the term 'natural-born citizen' as one who was born on United States soil. But the First Congress, on March 26, 1790, approved an act that declared, 'The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States.' That would seem to include McCain, whose parents were both citizens and whose father was a Navy officer stationed at the U.S. naval base in Panama at the time of John's birth in 1936."
But the issue is not legally closed, and therefore this year, as reported in the legal column of the Wall Street Journal a non-binding resolution was introduced and passed affirming that McCain qualifies as a "natural born Citizen," as specified in the Constitution and is therefore eligible for the highest office in the land. Ironically, the resolution was co-sponsored by Barack Obama.
About McCain, of course, there is no question about the facts surrounding his birth, but over their legal significance. He is not denying that he was born in Panama, or posting certificates that claim he was born in Florida. Obama's campaign, on the other hand, seems intent on evading the need to produce and submit to public scrutiny the official document that could prove that his qualification to run for President according to the Constitution.
The cloud of controversy, of course, could be dispelled with ease, of course, if Obama would release the real documentation of his birth, or even the original printed version of the online document the campaign claims as genuine. And yet the campaign is sticking by its guns, despite the evidence from the blogosphere pointing to the forgery and inadequacy of the proffered image of the non-birth certificate. Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, told the LA Times: "I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama's birth certificate."
Validation for the authenticity of the image is provided by a reporter for the St. Petersburg Times, who reportedly emailed the image and got a confirmation from an official in the Hawaiian Department of Health. "It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate," spokesman Janice Okubo is quoted as telling the reporter.
Israel Insider is checking into this report and will report back on its findings.
...and a comma instead of a semi-colon.
I will have to steal my graphics from more literate dudes!
Yes ; your so correct! Again I apologize for my choice of ripped off graphics.
“It seems like someone in the Spineless Republican Party would demand proof?”
You’re surely KIDDING, right??
Any Leading Republican who DARES to bring this up would IMMEDIATELY be branded a hate-filled racist.
All the Messiah has to do is flash his Platinum Race card, and the Repubs will cower in fear. And the Dems are COUNTING on that.
“No Quarters to name one.”
Those guys are a bunch of desperate deadenders lead by the fellow who guaranteed Karl Rove was about to be indicted during the Plame scam. Anything original they come up with has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Picture this scenario; it only gets challenged just before the election. It takes a while to end up in the Supreme court and they do not get time to decide prior to the election.
BHO is elected. Now that it is in SCOTUS and the liberal side of the supreme court says that it is obviously the “will” or “consensus” or “mass opinion” of the voters” that it does not matter where BHO was born or when.
So what happens then?
On the other hand just days before the election SCOTUS rules that he is not a US citizen and can not be elected President of the US.
What happens then?
Or worse yet, Hillary takes the ruling that he can not be elected and forces the issue through the courts claiming that she is the next obvious “choice” of the democrat electorate to be the candidate. Remember, she did not concede to Obama yet.
Anyone else see the wonderful possibilities for what happens from here?
Welcome to Free Republic.
The author subsequently talked to the Hawaiian official. Nothing is released electronically. Obama’s is a forgery.
BHO gets elected and then it is proven that he's ineligible to become president. Obama gets impeached and thrown out of office by Congress. His VP then takes over as president.
Four years later, the electorate still does not trust the Dems with the Obama impeachment fresh in their minds, the Repubs win the presidency in a landslide.
Obama needs to produce a witness who will swear that he/she observed Obama’s birth in Hawaii in 1961. It could be a nurse, doctor, friend of his mother, etc. If that witness is not produced, it can be assumed Obama was born in Kenya and his mother then flew back to the US with the infant and fraudulently registered his birth as occurring in Hawaii. Therefore, Obama would be ineligible to be sworn in as president.
This ain’t their baby. It was a right winger at Townhall.com and folks at here that exposed this fraud. And welcome. Enjoy your stay.
Judicial Watch? Maybe Larry Klayman can win one for once? Heehee.
Now think; would a dem congress throw out a dem?
A heavily republican congress could not throw out Clinton and HE LIED to the American people than latter admitted it on camera!
It would never happen. If BHO is sworn in he is there to stay.
A small possibility. If they thought as the days went by and that the Mr. Fraud Obama saga drags into the mid-term elections dragging the Dems down were they could lose the House and the Senate. Yeah, they would throw Barack 'unconstitutional' Obama under the bus.
I think FR owns the scoop on this. I have FR data/threads/pings going back at least 5 weeks ago.
Note that I said anything “original” they come up with. I am sure they have been regurgitating a lot of what you have come up with. I was only referring to their original theories/evidence.
That you did.
Along with the “overturning the will of the people” and racism angles it would be hard for the dems.... along with their friends in the msm to even think of throwing him out.
Can you see algore and kerry making statements and holding rallies (along with clinton)? “The Republicans, in three of the last 4 presidential elections, overturned or tried to overturn the will of the people.” “All three of us suffered under the attacks that came with the aide of the SCOTUS.” “Fight with us to see your vote is not eliminated again though legal maneuvers.” “Fight with us to see your vote was not wasted.” “Help show that the republicans are wrong and that the courts don't decide presidential elections, you do”.
Possibly there would be talk of bringing in the U.N. to help “protect the legally elected president from the looming insurgent rebellion”. Maybe not that bad but I posited the questions because there really is a chance this could get nasty.
DID OBAMA REGISTER WITH THE SELECTIVE SERVICE?