Obama campaign claims suspect "birth certificate" as genuine item

Israel Insider ^ | June 21, 2008 | Reuven Koret

[Red Steel]

Israel Insider Sidebar information:

"I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama's birth certificate." Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, to the Los Angeles Times.

Seal of the state of Hawaii appears in a low-resolution,
second-generation black and white
image inconsistent with the rest of the document
(Photicon blog)

Upper-left corner of frame shows uneven "paste" of
vertical rectangle, unaligned with horizontal border
(Photicon blog)

June 6, 2007 appears at the bottom of the image, just
right of center, as a backward facing stamp. Where
does this come from, and what does it mean? And where
is the official seal and signatures that one
would expect on an official document of this kind?

[Red Steel]

Ping.

[razorback-bert]

So will someone go to court to make BO prove he is legal?

[Kevmo]

This is getting more and more fun to watch.

The key issue is in this sentence: it is Article Two, Section One of the Constitution which requires that the President be a “natural born citizen” and not simply a naturalized citizen.

[Jeff Head]

Obama is a charlatain, a liar, and an abject marxist.

THE GREAT SEAL OF OBAMANATION



THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

[HerrBlucher]

The cloud of controversy, of course, could be dispelled with ease, of course, if Obama would release the real documentation of his birth, or even the original printed version of the online document the campaign claims as genuine.

Seems like such a no brainer to just go ahead and deliver the real certificate to the press and get all this controversy over with. Maybe bambi is just playing all this up so he can get everyone in an uproar then casually show the real thing and make everyone look like a fool. Its a stupid game to play though if that is what he is doing, even some of his Zombie supporters in the press may start to wake up.

If he is not playing a game then this could get real interesting.

[MWS]

Uh-oh...

I’m starting to get the feeling that Obama is really a Nigerian 419 scammer!

[TribalPrincess2U]

See the comparisons at http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm

excerpt:
Because if Barack Hussein Obama II does not produce definitive proof of his “natural born” American citizenship with original, verifiable documents, he will be setting the stage for a very public battle over his personal credibility, the basic legitimacy of his candidacy, and its possible criminality.

Will he pull a John Kerry on us?

[TeleStraightShooter]

I noticed the byline is June 21. The Israel Insider did a follow up on June 24th

The image, purporting to come from the Hawaii Department of Health, has been the subject of intense skepticism in the blogosphere in the past two weeks. But now the senior spokesman of that Department has confirmed to Israel Insider what are the required features of a certified birth document -- features that Obama's purported "birth certificate" clearly lack.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2036156/posts

[Red Steel]

Yes, thanks for linking the two articles. :-)

[Gondring]

Funny that they didn’t seem to consider that it’s a “Birth Certification,” not a “Birth Certificate”...thus, the datestamp on the back could very well be an official dating of when this document was issued (as a certification from the records, not the original birth certificate). The print could be off because of misalignment of printer paper, etc.

I’m concerned that this is going to play into the hands of Obama.

[WesternPacific]

So will someone go to court to make BO prove he is legal?

It seems like someone in the Spineless Republican Party would demand proof? As usual, McCain and his supporters are too afraid of confronting Obamarama and his political machine.

[Red Steel]

Also from the follow up article:

"Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document.""

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Ben LeDolt, Obama’s mouthpiece, cannot confirm that the document is Obama’s birth certificate. Only the state of Hawaii can do that.

Remember, Dan Rather confirmed that the Bush document was real, too.

Some journalists confirmed that John Kerry released his SF180 service record but we haven’t seen them. John lies with the best, and so do his mouthpieces Wade and Hurley.

What you get from a hospital or govt records as a “birth certificate” is actually a stamped/seal copy, and not the original which is kept by the government.

Anyone can forge a birth certificate. Just ask the illegals who have them by the score.

Let’s see what develops before passing a final judgment, but remember, the Democrats are great at accepting forgeries as real (Hitler’s Diaries, anyone?)

CBS’s “Operation Tailwind” anyone? Mark Lane’s book “Conversations with Americans”? Jayson Blair; Janet ? , Wash. Post; yada yada.

[Gondring]

Maybe bambi is just playing all this up so he can get everyone in an uproar then casually show the real thing and make everyone look like a fool.

Ya think? :-)

Rope-a-dope is not only a possibility...it's a pretty likely scenario, based on other things they've done. I bet they have had this sitting for a while now...does anyone think they wouldn't have been all over this a while ago, prepared for the inevitable questions?

But once again, he can look like a victim of smearing, gaining sympathy and further building the shield that prevents any criticism from even being voiced.

[Grampa Dave]

“Seems like such a no brainer to just go ahead and deliver the real certificate to the press and get all this controversy over with. Maybe bambi is just playing all this up so he can get everyone in an uproar then casually show the real thing and make everyone look like a fool. Its a stupid game to play though if that is what he is doing, even some of his Zombie supporters in the press may start to wake up.

If he is not playing a game then this could get real interesting. “

We probably have as much chance of seeing a real copy of his birth certificate as seeing John Kerry’s full military record. Kerry refused to release his military records, and
Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate will probably not show his BC. We will be labeled as racists for daring to question his birth.

[Salvation]

**and registrar signature on the back of the document.””**

So then, we need to see BOTH sides of the REAL birth certificate!

[Mr Ramsbotham]

If you go to the Hawaii Department of Health website, you can find a detailed description of the process for retrieving copies of of vital records. One thing to note especially is that the requirements for obtaining such copies are narrowly circumscribed. A person might obtain a legal copy, alter it, make the alteration public, and there would be no way to prove the fraud short of a court order "established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction ...."

[Wil H]

Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, told the LA Times: "I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama's birth certificate."

Now here is a "spokesman" who is totally incompetent. He is clearly talking out of his ASS.

It is NOT his Birth Certificate, never was, isn't claimed to be.

What they are attempting to pass off as genuine is a "Certification of Live Birth".

That is NOT the Birth Certificate. It is a re-issue of your birth record printed from state records on the form in current use by the State at the time the request for the certification was made.

IT IS NOT VALID WITHOUT BEING EMBOSSED WITH THE STATE SEAL AND THEN NOTARIZED.

NEITHER the embossed seal, nor the subsequent notarization are evident on Obama's copy so it CANNOT be genuine.

Which would account for the redacted number.

[William Tell]

From the article: "Validation for the authenticity of the image is provided by a reporter for the St. Petersburg Times, who reportedly emailed the image and got a confirmation from an official in the Hawaiian Department of Health. "

Isn't this almost certainly a lie? Could any of us email an image of a document and get any kind of confirmation from the authorities in Hawaii based on such an image?