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The Obamacons Who Worry McCain
Washington Post ^ | 6/26/08 | Robert Novak

Posted on 06/26/2008 3:03:27 AM PDT by MartinaMisc

What is an "Obamacon?" The phrase surfaced in January to describe British conservatives entranced by Barack Obama. On March 13 the American Spectator broadened the term to cover all "conservative supporters" of the Democratic presidential candidate. Their ranks, though growing, feature few famous people. But looming on the horizon are two big potential Obamacons: Colin Powell and Chuck Hagel.

Neither Powell, first-term secretary of state for George W. Bush, nor Hagel, retiring after two terms as a U.S. senator from Nebraska, has endorsed Obama. Hagel probably never will. Powell probably will enter Obama's camp at a time of his own choosing. The best bet is that neither of the two, both of whom supported President Bush in 2000 and 2004, will back John McCain in 2008.

Powell, Hagel and lesser-known Obamacons harbor no animosity toward McCain. Nor do they show much affection for the rigidly liberal Obama. The Obamacon syndrome is based on hostility to Bush and his administration and on revulsion over today's Republican Party. The danger for McCain is that desire for a therapeutic electoral bloodbath could get out of control.

That danger was highlighted in a June New Republic article on "The rise of the Obamacons" by supply-side economist Bruce Bartlett, who was a middle-level official in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations. He expressed "disgust with a Republican Party that still does not see how badly George W. Bush has misgoverned this country" -- echoing his scathing 2006 book, "Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy." While Bartlett says "I'm not ready to join the other side," his anti-Bush furor characterizes the Obamacons.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: 2008; brucebartlett; bush; colinpowell; hagel; mccain; novak; obama; obamacons

1 posted on 06/26/2008 3:03:27 AM PDT by MartinaMisc
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To: MartinaMisc
Right.... name me ONE position that attracts conservatives to Obama. He's for abortion, higher taxes, bigger government, and fellating America's enemies abroad. If that's where so-called Obamacons are, I'd hate to know where the hard core socialists stand.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 06/26/2008 3:06:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Powell gave $2,300 to McCain’s campaign.


3 posted on 06/26/2008 3:16:44 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: MartinaMisc
He expressed "disgust with a Republican Party that still does not see how badly George W. Bush has misgoverned this country"

Indeed.

4 posted on 06/26/2008 3:18:17 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo
The solution is to move left? The problem is both candidates want to do that on domestic policy. A pox on both their houses!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 06/26/2008 3:19:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
"Conservatism wins every time it's tried."

- Rush Limbaugh

6 posted on 06/26/2008 3:23:10 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo
If only we had a conservative candidate in the race, Obama would be toast now.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 06/26/2008 3:24:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Well said.


8 posted on 06/26/2008 3:24:18 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: MartinaMisc

We are so screwed...

There’s bad and worse...

Dark days ahead.


9 posted on 06/26/2008 3:28:22 AM PDT by DB
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To: goldstategop

If only we had a Conservative in the White House (and more in Congress), the DNC would be toast now.


10 posted on 06/26/2008 3:28:27 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: MartinaMisc

The only “Obamicon” I know of is Robert Novak.


11 posted on 06/26/2008 3:34:08 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: goldstategop

I think so too.

The GOP overlords screwed up bad and its going to cost us all dearly. I can only guess they thought Hillary was a shoe in and that Clinton revived the Republicans in congress back in the 90’s and could do so again. That they’d let McCain have “his turn” as the throw away candidate.

But that isn’t what happened.


12 posted on 06/26/2008 3:35:41 AM PDT by DB
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To: rhombus

Really?

Novak has said he supports Obama?


13 posted on 06/26/2008 3:36:28 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB

Why would Powell give $2,300 to McCain only to support Obama?


14 posted on 06/26/2008 3:37:43 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: MartinaMisc

More WaPo BDS BS. I guess they haven’t laid off enough left-wing shills.


15 posted on 06/26/2008 3:38:52 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

(gack!) It’s Novak!


16 posted on 06/26/2008 3:40:06 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: MartinaMisc
Powell and Hagel are conservatives? If so, the word conservative is meaningless. Hagel was a McCain-wannabe, a liberal, former Democrat, who attacked the Republican Party in order to kiss up to the MSM.

Who remembers Hagel's tease of a press conference, where he announced that he was going to think about running for President? The reason Hagel is retiring, is that he was going to get beat in the GOP primary.

17 posted on 06/26/2008 3:41:02 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Friends don't let friends buy into Dem propaganda.)
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To: DB

My question was has Novak said that he (Novak) supports Obama. I find that hard to believe - but who knows...


18 posted on 06/26/2008 3:41:30 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB

No, I don’t think Novak has or will publicly support Obama but perpetuating this “straw man” called an Obamacon supports the notion that the GOP has gone too far to the right and many Republicans are all set to jump ship and vote for Obama. Novak may or may not do that himself but clearly he doesn’t think that the GOP needs more conservatives to make it right and he’s blaming Bush for being too conservative... not too liberal.


19 posted on 06/26/2008 3:41:58 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: goldstategop

We had one, but he wasn’t “viable”. Whatever the hell that means. It appears that a Marxist Senator from a racist church, a few years removed from the Illinois Legislature is “viable” So viable means: A person the media supports and/or endorses and the sheeple “baa” and get on in line. This isn’t a Democracy, it’s an American Idolocracy that sees itself as entitled, Government as it’s daddy, and that will soon have more riding in the Socialists Dream Wagon than pulling it.


20 posted on 06/26/2008 3:45:05 AM PDT by WildcatClan
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To: DTogo
While Bartlett says "I'm not ready to join the other side," his anti-Bush furor characterizes the Obamacons.

Bartlett isn't an "Obamacon" which is a ridiculous term. He just didn't like Bush's spending, which of course Obama will increase by huge numbers.

21 posted on 06/26/2008 3:51:11 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Perdogg
Powell probably will enter Obama's camp at a time of his own choosing. The best bet is that neither of the two, both of whom supported President Bush in 2000 and 2004, will back John McCain in 2008.

If Powell supports Obama it will be only because he wants a black President.

22 posted on 06/26/2008 3:53:00 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

Oh Puleese...the WaPo must have needed to ‘balance’ their reporting, (hoping to divert attention from their poor financials)and Novak fit the bill for the putative Conservative....the only one whose phone # is on the Editor’s speed dial. Faux Conservative for some faux balance for a faux newzpaper!


23 posted on 06/26/2008 4:00:13 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: MartinaMisc
Do opposites attract in politics? If someone is voting for Obama, it's not because they are conservative.
24 posted on 06/26/2008 4:00:25 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Perdogg

Exactly, I wonder if Novak knew about this donation?


25 posted on 06/26/2008 4:02:54 AM PDT by moose2004 (Go Ahead, Make My Day)
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To: iopscusa
For there to be an actual "Obamacon" would mean that person never actually had any core beliefs and I say good riddance to the phony.

Obama offers nothing new, he is more liberal than Hillary on probably every issue and he's a fake.

26 posted on 06/26/2008 4:03:12 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: MartinaMisc
The Obamacon syndrome is based on hostility to Bush and his administration and on revulsion over today's Republican Party

Really?

I thought it was a direct result of the dumbing down of our culture by the media. The fact that attention spans are all of .5 seconds and everyone is more concerned with the cult of personalitry than reality.

A society that was told even by the administration that took it to war, go ahead live as if nothing has changed.

Greatest country on earth, and we have a small percentage of population actually fighting the war and a even smaller percentage that follow it! The rest fat, dumb and happy, it's not hatred of Dubya, that got us B. Hussein.

Obama is a direct result of a lazy society and marketing like this ad that ran on Indiana radio..."He's cute".

Amazing, if wasn't so damn dangerous.

27 posted on 06/26/2008 4:07:03 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: MartinaMisc
Novak uses a few recognizable names here to perpetuate the Obama tidal wave scenario, which will wash across the U.S. and sweep Barry into the POTUS seat. The anonymous conservatives and Christians far outnumber the morons who are caught up in the Barry O fad. Come November, with Iraq a success and home heating prices through the roof, it's going to be a far different story. In my heart, I truly believe that Americans will reject radical socialism as a means of governance.
28 posted on 06/26/2008 4:13:19 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Kakaze

Well said! Thank you!


29 posted on 06/26/2008 4:13:56 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: ishabibble

...”In my heart, I truly believe that Americans will reject radical socialism as a means of governance”...

They will if they can think independently of the revisionists of current history who are adept at changing the impression of any event only days after everyone witnessed the unfolding of it. I am astonished that this population does not pick up on the “in your face” flip-flops from politicians. Regarding a drastic change in our governance of America, who knows what the MSM will feed to this nation of sheep.


30 posted on 06/26/2008 4:22:09 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: MartinaMisc

Should be ObamaCOMS.


31 posted on 06/26/2008 4:24:02 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: MartinaMisc

Can I introduce the term “Obamunist” for all of his supporters?


32 posted on 06/26/2008 4:42:17 AM PDT by madconservative
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To: madconservative

Actually, I just googled “Obamunism” and it looks like plenty of other people have thought of it...


33 posted on 06/26/2008 4:44:34 AM PDT by madconservative
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To: madconservative

Love that!


34 posted on 06/26/2008 5:34:53 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: goldstategop
Is Bob Novak getting senile?
Did he have the nerve to call Chuck Hagel and Colon Powell conservatives? Chuckie has worked diligently to undermine The Repub party and Bush on the War on terrorism and accused Bush of being a liar. Chuckie and his WIFE have donated to OBama and she is promoting Obama .
Bob Novak has lost it . Where is the Susan Eisenhower reference the Lib media alawys uses, the so called repub that was spamming people on there phones for JOhn Kerry in 2004 ! I read all about how the Obama camp has been carefully peddling this spin about these so called repub for Obama. It's nice that Novak has been suckered by a Obama PR campaign and is now spreading this BS .
35 posted on 06/26/2008 6:33:33 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: rhombus

Exactly.


36 posted on 06/26/2008 6:36:22 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: MartinaMisc

My advice to any Republican who votes for Obama is to stay there. Don’t come weaseling back to the GOP after the election.


37 posted on 06/26/2008 7:08:17 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: DTogo
"indeed"

baloney. Bush is the best prez since Reagan.

38 posted on 06/26/2008 7:10:09 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: MartinaMisc
But looming on the horizon are two big potential Obamacons: Colin Powell and Chuck Hagel.

Maybe the MEDIA considers Powell and Hagel to be conservatives, but I don't think conservatives do. I've always thought they were more moderate than conservative.

39 posted on 06/26/2008 7:10:50 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: DB

There were no GOP ‘overlords’ deciding who our nominee would be this year. There was a wide open primary; the first we’ve had in over a generation, where there was neither an incumbent President or Vice President running for office. There were several conservative candidates, and conservative votes were split among them. Nothing wrong with that; that’s the way it happens in primaries. McCain ended up with a plurality of the votes, so he’s the nominee. We who supported others may not like it worth a dang, but that’s what we have. We can support the nominee, as most of his rivals in the primaries have asked us to do, or we can pout, bitch and moan, and watch the Democrats have the White House again. I, for one, don’t want a Democrat naming the next three Supreme Court Justices. We’re only now getting out from under the liberal judicial activism of the last 30 years, I’d hate to see more of it.


40 posted on 06/26/2008 7:18:47 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Kakaze
A society that was told even by the administration that took it to war, go ahead live as if nothing has changed.

Don't know where you heard THAT. The President told us that we needed to be vigilant, but also that we should live our lives in spite of any terrorists who want to hurt us. He didn't want us cowering in our homes in fear, because that's not necessary.

He knew that having our military in Iraq would attract the Jihadists there, and that's exactly what happened, but he also told us that many of the victories against terrorists who wanted to strike us here, again, would not be publicized, so we'd likely not know about them for years, if at all.

41 posted on 06/26/2008 7:25:32 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Don't know where you heard THAT

It wasn't a quote it was though the message.

[Dubya] he also told us that many of the victories against terrorists who wanted to strike us here, again, would not be publicized, so we'd likely not know about them for years, if at all.

I don't have a problem with this strategy either...I think all too often we tell too much, but that doesn't mean the enemy within should not be engaged and he has failed to engage congress and the liberals.

I have a feeling you and I will disagree but I would have and still would like to see the war prosecuted more like a war rather than a series of police actions.

I believe Iraq is the Germany of the 21st century, in that strategically we need that position. for all that I have "bashed" Dubya and praised him, I can confidently say this....By February 1, 2009 we will all wish he was still president.

42 posted on 06/26/2008 5:27:37 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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