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U.S. to Take North Korea Off Terror List
New York Times ^ | June 27, 2008 | NORIMITSU ONISHI and EDWARD WONG

Posted on 06/26/2008 7:11:52 AM PDT by dead

TOKYO — North Korea took a step on Thursday toward reintegration into the world community and rapprochement with the United States by submitting for outside inspection a long-delayed declaration of its nuclear program.

The 60-page declaration from North Korea, one of the world’s most isolated and impoverished nations, was expected to describe in previously undisclosed detail its capabilities in nuclear power and nuclear weapons — meeting a major demand of the United States and other countries that consider the North a dangerous source of instability.

“This can be a moment of opportunity for North Korea,” said President Bush, announcing the declaration at the White House. “If it continues to make the right choices it can repair its relationship with the international community.”

With issues like Iran and Iraq still unresolved, the Bush administration considers the North Korean declaration a notable diplomatic achievement in the waning months of the current presidency.

Mr. Bush said in the principle of “action for action,” the United States would lift some restrictions on commercial dealings with North Korea and within 45 days end its designation of North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism. “Today we have taken a step toward a nuclear free Korean peninsula,” he said.

China, which has been the host of the six-nation talks on the North’s nuclear program, said Thursday afternoon that the North was submitting its declaration. The White House confirmed the exchange shortly afterward and said that it would remove North Korea from the terrorism list and thus make it eligible for aid and assistance, a goal long sought by the cash-starved country….

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1 posted on 06/26/2008 7:11:52 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead

The 60-page declaration from North Korea, one of the world’s most isolated and impoverished nations, was expected to describe in previously undisclosed detail its capabilities in nuclear power and nuclear weapons — meeting a major demand of the United States and other countries that consider the North a dangerous source of instability.
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Why do I smell deja vu - Carter and Clinton here?? You mean someone is going to actually believe these lying communist scum???


2 posted on 06/26/2008 7:16:35 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: dead
“This can be a moment of opportunity for North Korea,” said President Bush, announcing the declaration at the White House. “If it continues to make the right choices it can repair its relationship with the international community.”

I will try to be optimistic about this. If the Bush adminsitration manages to forcibly remove Iraq and Afghanistan from the ranks of the terrorist states, and manages to peacefully remove Libya and North Korea from the ranks of the terrorist states, then that is a very great achievement.

On the other hand, if North Korea is fooling us and reverts to terrorism, I think we should nuke them.

3 posted on 06/26/2008 7:18:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: EagleUSA

They don’t believe them. They just want you to think they do. They should put them on probation for five years. One mistake and slam them.


4 posted on 06/26/2008 7:21:47 AM PDT by RC2
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To: dead
So I suppose supplying Iran via Syria with nuke technology actually does pay off!

Hey just because they sold nukes to terrorists doesn't mean they are terrorists......

5 posted on 06/26/2008 7:27:20 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back" -Homers guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I will try to be optimistic about this.

I'm not very optimistic about it.

To me, it resembles the "legacy scrambling" that went on in the last few months of the Clinton Administration.

6 posted on 06/26/2008 7:35:33 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: RC2
They don’t believe them. They just want you to think they do.

Let me guess, this is just that genius Bush strategy we've seen so many times before?

7 posted on 06/26/2008 7:36:38 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: ClearCase_guy
peacefully remove Libya and North Korea from the ranks of the terrorist states, then that is a very great achievement.

deja vu all over again...

8 posted on 06/26/2008 7:39:55 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: dead

One more turn around the Merry Go round, but alas, there will be no gold ring for Legacy Tour 2008.


9 posted on 06/26/2008 7:49:46 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: dragnet2
Let me guess, this is just that genius Bush strategy we've seen so many times before?

Looks like the same strategy naivete to me.

10 posted on 06/26/2008 7:50:52 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: dead

Everything the North Koreans state is a lie.

Everything about their country is a lie.

Everything their leader says is a lie.

So, why are we so anxious to believe them?


12 posted on 06/26/2008 7:58:44 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: dead

“If it continues to make the right choices it can repair its relationship with the international community.” [Bush said]

George Bush is mentally retarded.


13 posted on 06/26/2008 8:07:39 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter/John Bolton in 2008!)
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To: panaxanax

Please ask the moderators to remove that post


14 posted on 06/26/2008 8:12:26 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: dead
Great News! A toast to our new bestest friends!!!

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BFF's, Kim, you and us!

15 posted on 06/26/2008 8:21:42 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: panaxanax

Why don’t you disrespect our Commander in Chief on some other forum, like DU for example?


16 posted on 06/26/2008 8:23:39 AM PDT by LightBeam (Support the Surge. Support Victory.)
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To: AdmSmith

Go ahead and ask. I’m entitled to my opinion as well as you are. Anyone that thinks dealing with NK in a friendly manner would be described by me as the same.

North Korea wants you and you family dead, simple plain fact. Get used to it. By removing them from the list of “Terror countries” is a huge mistake and a stupid one.


17 posted on 06/26/2008 8:39:23 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter/John Bolton in 2008!)
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To: dead

My question is... how many billions is he going to get from the American taxpaper for being a good boy... again?


18 posted on 06/26/2008 8:41:58 AM PDT by BigFinn (NoBama 2008. NoMcCain 2008. Anybody out there?)
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To: LightBeam
OK newbie, let me rephrase for the politically correct whiner babies.

George Bush is mentally challenged.

19 posted on 06/26/2008 8:41:59 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter/John Bolton in 2008!)
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To: dead

What a joke.

They give their nuke file to the Red Chinese.

Oh well, good enough for me /sarc.


20 posted on 06/26/2008 8:48:01 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (This is Sammy Israel III filling in for DB Cooper who will be returning next week,)
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To: dead

We asked that NK meet our conditions and they apparently have (emphasis on apparently). Thus we have to meet our end of the bargain.

I’m just as uneasy about this as anyone. However, this may very well be the best way to difuse North Korea.

I’d like to point out that two years ago, nearly all of the prominent Dems were asking why we were wasting time in Iraq rather than attacking “a real threat” like North Korea. It seems that, once again, the Republicans have the better judgement.


21 posted on 06/26/2008 8:50:31 AM PDT by kidd
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To: LightBeam
Why don’t you disrespect our Commander in Chief on some other forum, like DU for example?

Look for the Smirking Chimp to cut a NK trade deal before leaving office. Would that convince ya?

22 posted on 06/26/2008 9:16:20 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: LightBeam
Why don't you disrespect our Commander in Chief on some other forum, like DU for example?

If Bush was called out on the carpet more often from the base over the last 7 years we would not be now facing a Democrat congress and probably a democrat presidency, let alone a huge increase in in the size of gov't and spending under his command.

He needs to be criticized

23 posted on 06/26/2008 9:20:57 AM PDT by am452 (In order to ensure the quality of your patriotism, your conversation may be monitored.)
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To: am452
He needs to be criticized

Indeed he does. He's gotten more done for the DEMs than Gore or Kerry ever could have hoped for. Had he been a DEM doing the stuff he has for the past 7 years most Freepers would be calling for his removal. Thanks to Bush if Obama gets in he'll be far more powerful than Clinton or Carter was because the idiot GOP majority handed him every single executive power he asked for because he was a Wepublicant. Their short sightedness and his arrogance is gonna cost us plenty in our nations short and long term future.

24 posted on 06/26/2008 9:32:43 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: dead; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Jet Jaguar; monkapotamus; Tamar1973; All

HEY TIGER if you still sleep this happen in your overnight cycles


25 posted on 06/26/2008 9:39:59 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: dead

quote, ‘... the Bush administration considers the North Korean declaration a notable diplomatic achievement in the waning months of the current presidency.’

Hmmmmmm. Wishful thinking!

I consider the North Korean declaration a bunch of bull. They are nuke happy. That hasn’t changed.

NEWS BULLETIN: LIARS LIE.

Wishing they were telling the truth doesn’t mean they are telling the truth.


26 posted on 06/26/2008 9:48:44 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: am452
[i]He needs to be criticized[/i]

Surely you know the difference between criticism and personal insults.
27 posted on 06/26/2008 9:59:57 AM PDT by IronKros (The pig put foot. Grunt. Foot in what? ketchup)
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To: IronKros

doh, I spend too much time posting in BB.


28 posted on 06/26/2008 10:01:16 AM PDT by IronKros (The pig put foot. Grunt. Foot in what? ketchup)
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To: cva66snipe; am452

Thank you.

panax


29 posted on 06/26/2008 10:10:20 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter/John Bolton in 2008!)
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To: IronKros
Surely you know the difference between criticism and personal insults.

Bush deserves the personal insults as well. Hope you like Obama and the rat house/senate thanks to Bush.

30 posted on 06/26/2008 10:12:32 AM PDT by am452 (In order to ensure the quality of your patriotism, your conversation may be monitored.)
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To: dead

31 posted on 06/26/2008 10:12:56 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: dead
It's about time!

Poor, pitiful country full of starving people led by a man so selfless he never took a vacation.

We Americans are so lucky to have had practically eight years of this administration which has exercised nothing but clear and concise thought and decisions.

We're careful to not attack a truly belligerant nation that might have missiles; otherwise, we might have blown up the ChiComs decades ago. Who, if we had done that, would be furnishing us with our kid's shoes and toys?

It makes us want to commit suicide and vote for a communist muslim!

McCain: you'd better measure up!

32 posted on 06/26/2008 10:38:49 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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To: dead
"I never voted for blacklisting in the first place!"


33 posted on 06/26/2008 10:50:08 AM PDT by XR7
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To: All
I trust Lil Kim about as much as I trust Obama on the unFairness Dictate.
34 posted on 06/26/2008 10:52:34 AM PDT by newnhdad
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To: dead
"To me, it resembles the "legacy scrambling" that went on in the last few months of the Clinton Administration. "

Yep.

35 posted on 06/26/2008 11:24:15 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: cva66snipe
Look for the Smirking Chimp

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36 posted on 06/26/2008 11:40:03 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep

I meant G.W. Bush.


37 posted on 06/26/2008 11:45:30 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: cva66snipe

It fits Obama much, much better.


38 posted on 06/26/2008 12:02:57 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: dead

How do we know they are telling the truth in this “declaration”? Why are we so quick to believe them?


39 posted on 06/26/2008 12:23:39 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: Pinkbell
How do we know they are telling the truth in this “declaration”? Why are we so quick to believe them?

Because China says so. Didn't you get the RNC memo? Communist China is our most trusted friend besides Saudi Arabia and Yemen. We do trade with them. Bush likes trade with Communist China. So Communist China is always right because a Bush is never wrong according to the GOP party leadership & a few others.

40 posted on 06/26/2008 12:47:58 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: EagleUSA

I wonder how much new “assistance” (our taxes) will be paid to North Korea as a bribe.


41 posted on 06/26/2008 2:49:58 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Saberwielder; SunkenCiv; nuconvert
The question is how long time it will take until there is a leak about what type of information the NK has provided (and will provide) except info about the whereabouts of its plutonium and the start of the dismantling of the Yongbyon nuclear facility.

My guess is that they will spill the beans about Khan, Syria and Iran. The speed of the lifting of the sanctions indicates that this was a rehearsed political gesture, i.e we will see some more meat the coming weeks.

42 posted on 06/26/2008 3:34:18 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith
My guess is that they will spill the beans about Khan, Syria and Iran.

I am not sure about this. Under current situation, N. Korea does not have to go that far to get acquiescence of U.S. and China.

43 posted on 06/26/2008 5:04:54 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: cva66snipe

I think China doesn’t want a bunch of impoverished NK people begging on the streets of China during the olympics.
They pulled the strings. They saw all about our own illegal aliens and they won’t put up with it.


45 posted on 06/26/2008 5:28:48 PM PDT by BobS
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To: dead
A what if, but follow me here...

We have Iran Checkmated via Iraq and many other not so perfect but allies in the region.

We had the Israeli's whack the the Syrian Nuke which may have been a tie in to the Maxium Leader Mr. Ill....

So is this a "Check" before a "Checkmate" in the process of getting ready to whack Iran?

Are we peeling N. Korea away from Iran?

prove me right or wrong here..

46 posted on 06/26/2008 5:58:42 PM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: EagleUSA

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me three times....


47 posted on 06/26/2008 6:56:38 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: taildragger
"We had the Israeli's whack the the Syrian Nuke which may have been a tie in to the Maxium Leader Mr. Ill...."

I read here last night a report that if Obama is elected, Israel is going to bomb all of Iran's nuclear facilities while Bush is still in office. Those are the same blindable radars that Syria has there. And so do the refueling AC can get them back. Those bombs go 30 feet down before blowing up. The NSA and Navy knows where everything is. Israel will protect itself with no hesitation.

48 posted on 06/26/2008 6:58:47 PM PDT by BobS
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To: dead

This the 26th promise.

The broke the previous 25 promises, so what are the chances that they will break this one too ?


49 posted on 06/26/2008 7:08:13 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: RC2
They should put them on probation for five years

You can bet they are on double-secret probation.

50 posted on 06/26/2008 7:14:29 PM PDT by plain talk
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