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Obama supports supreme court reversal of gun ban
guardian.co.uk ^ | 6/27/08 | Suzanne Goldenberg and Elana Schor

Posted on 06/26/2008 6:59:41 PM PDT by melt

· Candidate's stance at odds with former position

· Democrat backs death penalty for child rapist

Barack Obama intensified his campaign to appeal to voters on the life-and-death issues of the American heartland yesterday by stepping away from his past support for gun control.

In the latest in a series of policy reversals for the Democratic presidential candidate, Obama came out in support of yesterday's supreme court decision overturning a gun ban in the city of Washington that had been a model for fighting urban crime.

He had previously supported the Washington ban, the strictest in the US.

It was the second time in 24 hours that Obama had shifted towards a more conservative position. On Wednesday, he took issue with the supreme court for striking down the death penalty for cases of child rape that do not involve murder.

In yesterday's decision, judges struck down Washington's 32-year-old gun ban by a five-to-four margin, saying it was incompatible with the second amendment of the constitution. "Whatever the reason, handguns are the most popular weapon chosen by Americans for self-defence in the home, and a complete prohibition of their use is invalid," the conservative Justice Antonin Scalia said. However, the judges defended the need for firearm bans in schools and public buildings.

Immediately after the ruling Obama and the Republican candidate, John McCain, both sought to exploit one of the most emotive political issues. McCain tried to revive charges that Obama was out of step with smalltown values. Obama ran into controversy last April for telling a fundraiser that Americans in small towns clung to guns and religion out of bitterness.

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KEYWORDS: 2008; 2faced; banglist; guns; gunvote; heller; lying; mccain; notbreaking; obama; obamalies; propagandawingofdnc; rights; scotus; secondamendment; topicabuse
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1 posted on 06/26/2008 6:59:41 PM PDT by melt
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To: melt

that’s not going to get him many votes from those red necks

in indiana and west virginia that voted for hillary!


2 posted on 06/26/2008 7:02:19 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: melt

Flip- flop I can use.


3 posted on 06/26/2008 7:02:19 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (This is Sammy Israel III filling in for DB Cooper who will be returning next week,)
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To: melt

He is going to lose the U.K. vote if he keeps this up .


4 posted on 06/26/2008 7:02:42 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: melt

Obama lies. He will say anything to get elected.


5 posted on 06/26/2008 7:02:55 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: melt
Obama is telling the Left to go under the bus until after the election. They'll happily oblige him.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 06/26/2008 7:05:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: melt
Obama supports supreme court reversal of gun ban

And he supports the (quick) reversal of his own position on the issue.

8 posted on 06/26/2008 7:08:11 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Of course. He's the nominee. Obama is smart to know there aren't enough Lefties in the country to get him elected President. Hence his move to the center.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 06/26/2008 7:09:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: melt

Another happy day. Keep on atruckin’ and amuckin’


10 posted on 06/26/2008 7:10:33 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: melt

So when Bammy Whammy puts his hand on the Kor-er-Bible IF he is sworn in as Pezident, then when he is asked to swear that he protects and defends the Constitution of the United States, we know NOW that it is a LIE.


11 posted on 06/26/2008 7:11:19 PM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: melt
He had previously supported the Washington ban. . . .

Barry throws HIMSELF under the bus! "That's not the Barack Obama I knew. . . ."

12 posted on 06/26/2008 7:13:45 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (B.O. Plenty.)
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To: Shady
If America really was left of center, then Obama wouldn't have to flip-flop, would he? What he does refutes the notion a hard core liberal can be elected to the White House. So he has to change some of his positions - and the fact he's changing them is revealing about where the American people really are.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 06/26/2008 7:14:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: melt

In the world of the UK’s Guardian, even pocket knives would be outlawed.


14 posted on 06/26/2008 7:15:28 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: melt


15 posted on 06/26/2008 7:16:21 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: melt

A picture’s worth a thousand words.


16 posted on 06/26/2008 7:18:08 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Shady

,i> when Bammy Whammy puts his hand on the Kor-er-Bible IF he is sworn in as Pezident, then when he is asked to swear that he protects and defends the Constitution of the United States, we know NOW that it is a LIE.</I><P.

No more I lie than when McCain’s swears the oath. McCain has nothing but contempt for the Bill of Rights, including the first and second amendments. I prefer Bob Barr to either of these jokers.


17 posted on 06/26/2008 7:19:11 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: melt

In the opposite of John Kerry, on the 2nd Amendment, he was against it before he was for it!


18 posted on 06/26/2008 7:19:17 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: ken21

Notice how Barry is trying to move ever-rightward as November approaches?

Don’t be fooled. It won’t last.


19 posted on 06/26/2008 7:21:24 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Hattie

Just like McCain. No point in counting flip flops for either of them.


20 posted on 06/26/2008 7:21:28 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: melt

I get the feeling that Suzanne Goldenberg and Elana Schor
of The Guardian are displeased and disillusioned with their Communist Messiah. They’re really piling on here.


21 posted on 06/26/2008 7:22:38 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: goldstategop

Yes
And they are buying it...........


22 posted on 06/26/2008 7:23:45 PM PDT by Thinkin
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To: melt

He’s got the Left in the bag, now he’s moving to the right.

Who thinks he’s going to take Hillary! along for the ride?


23 posted on 06/26/2008 7:23:50 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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To: melt

“Obama supports supreme court reversal of gun ban”

NO he doesn’t.

What this black racist supports is stealing votes though bald-faced lies.


24 posted on 06/26/2008 7:24:08 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now, or face the hangman.)
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To: melt

Pandering.

That’s it.....


25 posted on 06/26/2008 7:25:47 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (The Constitution Of The United States. 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: melt

Kerrypalooza 2008!


26 posted on 06/26/2008 7:27:47 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: melt
....crabbin' right towards the center....ObamaMessiah : "Wow, I've never been here before, This is Kansas (fly-over country)....I'll just click my Red (Marxist) Shoes, and be back in Never-NeverLand...(where all the media questions are "softballs").
27 posted on 06/26/2008 7:29:27 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: melt
Yea, Riiiiiight Osama Hussein Obama.

Only the criminally insane buys that bull!

28 posted on 06/26/2008 7:30:55 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: melt

Obama supports NOTHING Constitutional in the way of individual rights. He says what ever is convenient. If the communists on the SCOTUS had voted to support banning guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens, he would have lauded it with mounds of praise that his CHANGE was taking place.

Communist bastard.


29 posted on 06/26/2008 7:31:44 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: RasterMaster
Osama HUSSEIN Obama voter:


30 posted on 06/26/2008 7:34:20 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: melt

A one-vote shift on the Supreme Court.

Do you realize just how fragile that margin is? So far, the Supreme Court has not had to face a filibuster (like they do in the Senate) by the minority on any of the judgments passed, but later gatherings on the bench have been known to overturn earlier rulings. There used to be a demand made upon the usurpers that they at least provide a reasoned explanation of WHY there may be a reversal, but more and more, those “reasoned explanations” turn to means not found within settled case law or plain Constitutional language, going so far as to deem themselves expert pollsters who “know” the pulse of the country. Or they pick and choose among conclusions made by the law courts of foreign countries, where there do not exist the same parameters of what constitutes “justice” and “parity”.

In an honest world, this should have been a unanimous finding SUPPORTING the Constitutional rights contained within the Second Amendment. But four (FOUR!) of the justices had reservations of such nature, they could not see the incongruity.


31 posted on 06/26/2008 7:35:36 PM PDT by alloysteel (A taxpayer voting for Obama - is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: melt

How would one of his SCOTUS appointees have voted on this case?


32 posted on 06/26/2008 7:37:09 PM PDT by umgud
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To: melt

"It's not the gun ban I thought it was."

33 posted on 06/26/2008 7:38:23 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Gator113

though = through


34 posted on 06/26/2008 7:40:28 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now, or face the hangman.)
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To: buck jarret
No point in counting flip flops for either of them.

We could have a pool on the over/under.

35 posted on 06/26/2008 7:42:51 PM PDT by dfwddr ( Duncan Hunter .)
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To: melt

Obama is changing his story now for political reasons. If, and when, he is elected he will revert back to being the hard core leftist that we all know he is.


36 posted on 06/26/2008 7:42:57 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: melt

politically correct for a democrat,

but it will cost him the election.


37 posted on 06/26/2008 7:45:17 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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38 posted on 06/26/2008 7:52:32 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: Hattie
Obama always votes with the majority.
39 posted on 06/26/2008 8:13:09 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: melt

100% flim flam. This is the best the Democrats can offer.


40 posted on 06/26/2008 8:15:44 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: Hattie
Obama lies. He will say anything to get elected.

Sounds like MYTH ROMNEY.

41 posted on 06/26/2008 8:46:32 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: ken21

Cost him the election? Obama will win, probably in a landslide. That raving statist, luny McCain is doomed.


42 posted on 06/26/2008 8:48:11 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: RasterMaster

Obama voter? That looks more like a McCain voter. After all, wasn’t he the guy who traveled in the “straight Jacket” express in 2000.


43 posted on 06/26/2008 8:50:11 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

look, mcdole was not my choice.

but, that’s all we got.

i am hopeful.

i think obama will trip and fall.

this is one issue. yes, white red necks voted for hillary, but do you

honestly think they’ll vote for a gun grabber?


44 posted on 06/26/2008 8:50:54 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Captain Kirk
Could be a McCain voter, but it fits more with the LOONEY LEFT. I suppose if I was talking about a LIEberal, I'd have posted one of these photos instead:

We know what LIEberals mean when they claim to "support the war on terrorism"...

LIEberals leave no doubt about what they mean when they "support the troops"...


45 posted on 06/26/2008 9:04:39 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: RasterMaster
Nice try at a scare tactic but it won't work this time. Scare tactics won't be enough to put the looney pro-big government, high strung, old "maverick" in the White House. That critic of the first amendment, "obscene profits" and "greed" is a goner in November. BTW, your scare tactic is not even accurate this time.

Obama is not the "favorite candidate" of the LOONEY left. Their favorite is Nader who is scoring a relatively strong four percent.

46 posted on 06/26/2008 9:23:03 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: ken21

If anyone is likely to “trip and fall,” on the stage it is the grumpy old man. Gun grabber? Which one? McCain not only supported the Brady Bill but also assault weapon’s ban.


47 posted on 06/26/2008 9:25:37 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: GatorGirl

I thought there were going to be shots of obama with a duck!

I love those pictures!


48 posted on 06/26/2008 9:27:40 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: melt
Obama is simply a liar and an abject panderer. He has proven so on this issue and many others and it becomes more obvious with each passing dauy.

Not to mention an anti-American militant and abject marxist.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


49 posted on 06/26/2008 9:32:18 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: melt

He has some inconsistencies.


50 posted on 06/26/2008 9:40:32 PM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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