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Why :iberals Lie About What They Believe
Town Hall ^ | June 27, 2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 06/27/2008 4:07:17 AM PDT by Eurale

Once you've watched liberals long enough to understand how they think -- scratch that, how they feel -- they become extraordinarily predictable.

To begin with, the liberal agenda is, in many respects, the same as it was in the thirties. Whether you call it communism, fascism, socialism, liberalism, or progressivism, the only real difference is how much they believe they can get away with, the way they sell it to people, and the latest trendy name for what they believe.

So, once the liberals pick a policy from their stale program to push, the next step is to get it implemented. This is where liberals have problems because whether a policy makes sense, is practical, or actually improves people's lives is of secondary importance to them. What is important to liberals is whether supporting or opposing that policy makes them feel good about themselves.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demlies; liberals; marines

1 posted on 06/27/2008 4:07:18 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Eurale

Admin/Mod, please correct title. More coffee.


2 posted on 06/27/2008 4:08:23 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Eurale
Why :iberals Lie About What They Believe

They put their colon first?

3 posted on 06/27/2008 4:11:35 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Eurale
communists are democRATS in a hurry... with guns!!!
4 posted on 06/27/2008 4:12:05 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Eurale; All
Lib=Lies
5 posted on 06/27/2008 4:13:38 AM PDT by musicman
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To: Izzy Dunne
Liberals are able to give themselves colon exams.



6 posted on 06/27/2008 4:17:23 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Izzy Dunne

“They put their colon first?”

Apparently so....


7 posted on 06/27/2008 4:17:34 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: musicman

and all this no-drilling is not about the environment, it’s about hurting our economy and forcing us to all use mass transit where they can control our freedom.


8 posted on 06/27/2008 4:18:15 AM PDT by RushingWater (Pres. Bush honors Mexican sovereignty over our own - Pardon Ramos/Campeon/Hernandez)
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To: Eurale
So, once the liberals pick a policy from their stale program to push, the next step is to get it implemented. This is where liberals have problems
And why they have to rely on judicial activism.
9 posted on 06/27/2008 4:18:34 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Eurale

[This is where liberals have problems because whether a policy makes sense, is practical, or actually improves people’s lives is of secondary importance to them. What is important to liberals is whether supporting or opposing that policy makes them feel good about themselves.]

Yes indeed. Liberals live in a make believe world of illusions and delusions which all mankind is subject to but some pursue with relentless detemination to enact into literal law a system that is evil to mankind and would destroy not only themselves and their families, but all mankind. Their frustration brings them to fascism of the sort where deluded people gladly follow other evil people much as the german people followed Hitler in the 1930’s and caused the deaths of millions of people.
The liberal agenda is militant marxism, a fascist ideology of blood letting. And only because they refuse to believe that the God of Israel is the one true God and His only begotten Son is Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Therefore,

Romans 1 18. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19. Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29. Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30. Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31. Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


10 posted on 06/27/2008 4:18:45 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservatives Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr will be on the ballot..)
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To: Eurale

Liberals claim they are about freedom, but want to control every aspect of our lives. They always lie. Their policies make no sense because they run of feelings and not facts.


11 posted on 06/27/2008 4:19:09 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: RushingWater

[this no-drilling is not about the environment, it’s about hurting our economy and forcing us to all use mass transit where they can control our freedom.]

Our American forefathers would have them tarred and feathered and driven out of America to the communist countries they so love.


12 posted on 06/27/2008 4:20:25 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservatives Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr will be on the ballot..)
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To: Eurale
If you are just getting up, be thankful you missed Robert Wexler on with the Friends pushing his new book Fire-Breathing Liberal. According to Bob, it's the liberal time in America! What did conservatives ever give us...budget deficits, the Iraq War and policies that don't benefit middle America. While liberalism brought Social Security, Medicare and prosperity of the 90s, oh boy! Brian said—well, Obama is a lib but he doesn't like the title. Oh, Obama is a something SPECIAL...he transcends all categories...he brings people together.
13 posted on 06/27/2008 4:22:43 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Eurale

Liberals believe they can force social change in America, at home and at our businesses, by keeping energy cost inflated and doing not one damn thing to increase our energy supplies.


14 posted on 06/27/2008 4:24:11 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Miss Didi

“If you are just getting up, be thankful you missed Robert Wexler on with the Friends pushing his new book Fire-Breathing Liberal.”

I’m glad I missed it!


15 posted on 06/27/2008 4:24:31 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: RushingWater; All
"and all this no-drilling is not about the environment, it’s about hurting our economy and forcing us to all use mass transit where they can control our freedom."

Dem's ANWAR

16 posted on 06/27/2008 4:24:42 AM PDT by musicman
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To: RushingWater
forcing us to all use mass transit where they can control our freedom.

Park your SUV at the airport parking lot 2-miles away and ride the automated
train to the airport, where every plane can see that someone is actually using
the shuttle that "Feel-Good Liberals" spent BILLIONS on.

Did I say/mention, forced?

17 posted on 06/27/2008 4:26:18 AM PDT by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: musicman

Great cartoon. The truth needs to be told loudly.


18 posted on 06/27/2008 4:28:26 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Thanks! IMHO, I think this one is quite "telling" also:

Bush VS Pelosi Gas Prices

19 posted on 06/27/2008 4:32:42 AM PDT by musicman
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To: Eurale
Whether you call it communism, fascism, socialism, liberalism, or progressivism, the only real difference is how much they believe they can get away with

While the 'boldface' is the bottom-line... each of these “isms” are distinct and their differences should be acknowledged. There are few “liberals” left in Congress. Most call themselves “progressives” but are truly “socialists”. Teddy K., Kerry, Durbin, Biden... are simply closet-socialists.

IMO, Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson are good examples of “liberals”. As for “communists” there are more than you think... and when you think, think Congressional Black Caucus.

20 posted on 06/27/2008 4:33:55 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: Eurale
So, if you want to know what liberals want to do, their words mean absolutely nothing because lying about their agenda has become as natural to them as chasing a cat is to a dog.

So prophetic and right on.

I've seen San Fran Nan (Pelosi) twice, over the past week,look right into the camera and lie through her teeth to the point that her botoxed-injected, face was twitching like a squirrel's tail.

As the old saying goes, if a liberals lips are moving--they are lying!!!

21 posted on 06/27/2008 4:35:08 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Eurale

It’s in layers: scratch a Liberal and underneath is a Communist; scratch a Communist and underneath is a New World Order manipulator.

Mixed in with them are a motley crew of nihilists, back-to-the-cavers, environmentalists.


22 posted on 06/27/2008 4:38:17 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body.)
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To: Eurale

It’s in layers: scratch a Liberal and underneath is a Communist; scratch a Communist and underneath is a New World Order manipulator.

Mixed in with them are a motley crew of nihilists, back-to-the-cavers, environmentalists.


23 posted on 06/27/2008 4:39:10 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body.)
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To: Eurale

IMHO, the fact that they do lie...and now that their lies can be EASILY exposed in alternative media, a good shareholders attorney could easily make the argument that the Board has failed to ensure adequate editorial oversight resulting in significant loss of value to shareholders.


24 posted on 06/27/2008 4:39:53 AM PDT by mo
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To: kindred
[this no-drilling is not about the environment, it’s about hurting our economy and forcing us to all use mass transit where they can control our freedom.]

It is also about (some) who are glad when our economy sucks and are intentionally laboring to the detriment of our country.

Furthermore, the Lib/Socialist/Rats WANT the economy to stay stagnant or even, worsen, (especially now, due to high energy costs) as they are convinced they can lay most of the blame (thanks to their partners-in-crime, the corrupt, in-the-tank, MSM, who will espouse the DhimiCrats lies and talking points) on Bush/Republicans/Conservatives and hope to ride Americans' misery, right into the White House and an increased majority in Congress.

Shameless, charlatans, all!!!

25 posted on 06/27/2008 4:41:47 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Eurale
I had an amazing discussion this week with two Obama FANATICS who hated Bush, McCain, etc., yet vehemently denied they were liberals. They asked why I insisted on calling them liberals (one finally copped to being a lib, the other that she "used to be" but was "more conservative" now, though not on abortion, gun control, Obama, etc.), and I asked them if they weren't able to determine by seeing how one votes whether or not he/she was liberal or conservative.

They couldn't name a damned thing Obama wanted to do, but both swooned over how well he speaks in public, "and I put a lot of stock in that," one said.

I told her "I consider a liberal someone who votes for Obama because he reads speeches real well."

26 posted on 06/27/2008 4:44:52 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: musicman

That one is great also. Those should be printed in color card stock and mailed to every voter.


27 posted on 06/27/2008 4:46:18 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: Eurale
Why :iberals Lie About What They Believe
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COMMUNISTS always lie.

And...”liberals” always were, are now, and always will be one of two things: COMMUNISTS or USEFUL IDIOTS!

I am so pleased to see this article published on Town Hall.

So?.....When are the “Talking Pumpkin Head” of talk radio going to start using only word that really fits? COMMUNISM! Except for Michael Savage they are bunch of weenies.

28 posted on 06/27/2008 4:46:46 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Eurale

Marxists have no problem believing two contradictory things at the same time, so they should have no problem lying when necessary to advance their cause.


29 posted on 06/27/2008 4:47:48 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: Darkwolf377
They couldn't name a damned thing Obama wanted to do, but both swooned over how well he speaks in public, “and I put a lot of stock in that,” one said.
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There are only two kinds: Communists and Useful Idiots.

These air heads fall into the category of “Useful Idiot”!

30 posted on 06/27/2008 4:48:59 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: RoadTest

Mixed in with them are a motley crew of nihilists, back-to-the-cavers, environmentalists
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Useful Idiots!

( And throw in a few million who work for the government schools)


31 posted on 06/27/2008 4:53:28 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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bump


32 posted on 06/27/2008 4:58:04 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Miss Didi

“oh, obama is something special...he transcends all categories...he brings people together.”

just like polt pot, ho chi minh, adolf hitler, josef stalin and vladimir lenin.


33 posted on 06/27/2008 4:58:23 AM PDT by ripley
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To: johnny7; Eurale

the only real difference is how much they believe they can get away with
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The communists among them would kill us if they could. They just can’t get away with it...( yet!). The Useful Idiots would do thinking it was saving the whales.


34 posted on 06/27/2008 4:58:36 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

“shameless charlatans all...”

correction: “shameless, low-life, scu&bag communist swine.”

IMHO


35 posted on 06/27/2008 5:03:13 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Eurale

$5/gal is the commies’ plan coming to fruition. The bankruptcy of Capitalism is their goal. The DC, Hollywood, Media Coalition is a powerful force.

Pray for W and Our Troops


36 posted on 06/27/2008 5:03:52 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: Eurale

You can shock the sh!t troops
But You Cannot sh!t The shock troops
(Old Marine Corps Saying)
-Author Unknown
~~~~~


37 posted on 06/27/2008 5:10:00 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Eurale

bump


38 posted on 06/27/2008 5:21:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Darkwolf377
They couldn't name a damned thing Obama wanted to do, but both swooned over how well he speaks in public, "and I put a lot of stock in that," one said.

I wonder what would have happened if you had, after this remark, replied "yeah, but isn't the excitement you have when you hear him speak in public, isn't that more of a feeling than a reasoned reaction?"

I'm not putting it quite the way I'd like here. But that article did give me a clue as to how to deal with this kind of person. The clue is this: listen to them until you discover the "feeling" in their position. Then gently point it out, in a way that is calculated to not engage their ego and cause them to become defensive. This may mean that you don't try to "win" the argument. Instead, you try to reveal the truth to them just a little; your goal is for them to think about the exchange later, when they're not in a one-on-one argument that they may feel they have to win. Maybe, in the quiet of their own thoughts, they will remember the exchange with you and begin to question their reliance on feeling instead of thinking.

39 posted on 06/27/2008 5:38:41 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: kindred

Like I’ve said,

a liberal approaches a policy issue and thinks about it as a 12 yr old girl would.

“Is this policy ‘nice’, or ‘mean’”?


40 posted on 06/27/2008 5:43:31 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Islaminaction

You want to see a lib get his back up?

State these undeniable truths about liberalism to him:

1) The core of liberalism is using force to make the responsible and innocent pay for the consequences of the irresponsible choices of others.

2) Liberals support no individual freedoms outside of those related to consequence-free sexual behavior choices. All other individual actions are to be controlled, taxed and punished.


41 posted on 06/27/2008 5:45:21 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: johnny7

What gets me is the frickin’ everyday morons that vote for the fascists.

Every single one of them that I’ve talked to has this mentality:
Yes, I support [socialist] policies X,Y,and Z, but I’m not a socialist, and neither are the democrats.


42 posted on 06/27/2008 5:47:22 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Chode
communists are democRATS in a hurry... with your guns!!!

Although that just got a little harder for them.

43 posted on 06/27/2008 6:51:01 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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To: Eurale

Seriously, this author, Hawkins, must be reading my posts on FR!

( ;=) )

Every point he makes is one that I’ve held and voice on here often. OK, OK, so he’s not stealing my ideas. But it was a GREAT article.


44 posted on 06/27/2008 7:06:10 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Eurale

Genuine Liberals are almost all control freaks. Their blind followers are usually those who want something for “free”.


45 posted on 06/27/2008 7:38:14 AM PDT by Gritty (It is natural to indulge in illusions of hope, shutting our eyes against painful truth-Patrick Henry)
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To: Eurale

I like John but he is a poor writer, I’m thinking at 8th or 9th grade level.

I’m not surprised he is popular on FR.


46 posted on 06/27/2008 8:20:37 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: MrB

Well-reasoned observations.


47 posted on 06/27/2008 9:17:48 AM PDT by IncPen (We are but a moment's sunlight, fading in the grass ...)
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To: Eurale
helps almost no one, but seems "nice"

"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." --Thomas Sowell

My observations of liberals over several decades caused my "Theory of Liberals".

Without going into detail, my theory is that a liberal is a person who lacks the gene required by humans to process the reality of a situation. The empirical evidence supporting the theory’s premise is overwhelming.

48 posted on 06/27/2008 9:32:02 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: Noumenon
roger that...
49 posted on 06/27/2008 2:54:24 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Steely Tom

No, you’ve put it quite well. I find this more often in women than men, as unpopular as it may be to point it out—they simply get all hot and bothered about Obama, and they don’t give a damn if you point out they’re feeling, not thinking, because they see that as a sexist attack on “emotional intelligence” and that other Oprah crap. Pointing out that they’re using feelings to make a choice which should be based on logic is read as an insult to how women are” or something.


50 posted on 06/27/2008 9:29:17 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (American secret agent in enemy territory (Cambridge, MA))
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