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Summer a deadly time along U.S.-Mexico border
Houston Chronicle ^ | June 27, 2008 | DANE SCHILLER and DUDLEY ALTHAUS

Posted on 06/27/2008 7:01:52 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

A woman who sneaked into Houston this week after hiking miles through one of the most brutally hot and deadly stretches of the U.S.-Mexico border is frantic for help, but scared to ask for it.

While evading U.S. Border Patrol checkpoints in South Texas, she left behind the body of another woman who collapsed and died, perhaps from a scorpion sting or snake bite.

The woman, who gave her name as Karina and insisted on anonymity, said she tried to help her friend walk when they fell far behind a larger group led by a smuggler.

Now she is carefully trying to find a way to get authorities to go back and find the body — and see that it is sent home to Honduras — without herself risking being arrested and deported.

"I want to get word to her family," Karina said of the woman she met on the trail. "They should know what happened to her so they can retrieve the body."

With temperatures along the Texas-Mexico border climbing into the 100s, the dying season is getting under way for illegal immigrants braving dehydration and other enemies.

The Border Patrol's McAllen Sector — which starts in the Rio Grande Valley and includes a huge swath of territory that hugs the Gulf Coast — reports already finding 67 bodies in the first nine months of this fiscal year.

That compares to 61 for all of 2007.

Even more horrific than the figure itself is that the deadliest months of the year — July and August — are still to come. Other Border Patrol sectors didn't yet have June death totals compiled.

Among the dead in the past six weeks are four unidentified women, although none seems to fit the description of Karina's friend.

The latest body was found Tuesday....

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; coyotes; honduras; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico
Had to bury a dead coyote last week. Was bloated and starting to stink. Looked like he had a hole in his chest.
1 posted on 06/27/2008 7:01:53 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

Gee. A GREAT reason to build a fence. To prevent more sad stories like this. Build it NOW.


2 posted on 06/27/2008 7:03:51 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Oh BOO HOO. Where is my Kleenex box? I usually leave it by the TV for when I watch Oprah or Dr. Phil.


3 posted on 06/27/2008 7:09:09 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Kozak

A fence would probably reduce the flow of these people coming up here some, but I don’t see it stopping people so determined to get here that they would risk death hiking for days through desert to come here. Maybe it would weed out the weak ones or something, those that aren’t that motivated to get here.


4 posted on 06/27/2008 7:10:11 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: Kozak

This story has a moral ...

If Mexican individuals had the right to bear arms, they would have in thier hands the way to better government.


5 posted on 06/27/2008 7:11:56 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: TKDietz

A properly constructed fence, along with employer sanctions and welfare and health benefits for illegals would stop 90%+ (with most not even attempting it). THAT would free up the border patrol to deal with the remaining few who do make it across. It’s a massive force multiplier. It’s not rocket science, the Israeli’s have had great success with their fence. It just takes the political will to DO IT.


6 posted on 06/27/2008 7:19:42 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Invading our country is a real bitch.


7 posted on 06/27/2008 7:20:15 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I know I’m supposed to feel sad about this, but I don’t. If you choose to break the law and know beforehand the potential risk, and you still gambled and lost, too bad. End of my sympathy.


8 posted on 06/27/2008 7:21:00 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

A human coyote? Or a coyote coyote?


9 posted on 06/27/2008 7:43:18 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: econjack
If you choose to break the law

The law, in this case, is US law.

Natural law would permait human migration to whereever people decided to go.

DNA Geneological studies have found that every human existing today is genetically linked to prehistoric humans living in Africa.

Go figure.

10 posted on 06/27/2008 7:48:27 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Kozak
I am not convinced that Israel has had great success. Israel still has illegals. They still have terrorists coming in and bringing bombs. They still have lots of drugs coming in, and they have a whole lot less border to watch than we do.

I'm not a fence guy. It doesn't excite me as much as it does most others here. I'm okay with stretches of fence put in strategic locations, funneling traffic into more limited areas and making it hard enough to stop a lot of people from even trying to come over. I'm okay with sanctioning employers and criminal charges against people entering illegally. I also think we need to amend the Constitution such that people are no longer automatically citizens just because they happen to be born on our soil.

I think we've been having a lot more success lately than people realize. I see a lot of changes. For instance, a few years ago I can remember seeing countless illegal aliens plead guilty on felony offenses and not get deported. It would just blow me away. Sometimes it would even be something really serious like sex crimes, and I'd watch them walk away after our local courts were done with them. INS would know they were here. They'd have an INS hold on them at the jail, but when INS would never come and get them eventually the jail would have to let them go. That's not happening anymore. They're coming and getting these people. I've seen some with misdemeanor charges slip through but at least ICE is picking up all felons. They're also out in force picking up more illegals off the street than I've ever seen them do. They do seem to be focusing a lot at first on those aliens with criminal records, even for crimes committed years and years and years ago. They're going after a lot of legal aliens too, people with green cards, for old convictions. I don't like that so much as I feel that they should have sent these people home before instead of letting them renew their green cards knowing about these convictions but coming after them now years later after they've bought homes, had children, etc. Anyway, the government is cracking down. They're filing a lot of criminal charges to for coming into the country unlawfully. We've seen a huge increase in that in our area. Their charging people with illegal reentry especially and these people are often looking at up to 20 years in the federal pen. This is scaring illegals. Growth in the Hispanic population is slowing. There are lots of indications that our local illegal population is dwindling, and before all is said and done I bet we're going to see a lot fewer illegals here just because our government is starting to enforce the existing laws, like they should have done a long time ago.

People here talk about Operation Wetback, President Eisenhower's operation that got rid of a lot of illegal aliens back in the 1950’s. He got rid of over a million in less than a year with less than 2000 men and no border fences. They did this by enforcing the existing laws, and the laws didn’t have nearly the teeth our laws have today. Most of the people who left self deported because they didn't want to get picked up and get dropped off hundreds of miles south of the border.

We can accomplish a lot of good without building a Berlin Wall.

11 posted on 06/27/2008 7:49:17 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: econjack
Too bad Karina made it. And now thinks she thinks there is any reason not to be deported.
12 posted on 06/27/2008 7:54:19 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: SwinneySwitch
"Had to bury a dead coyote last week."

I give....Was he 'furry',,or did he have a Nationality?

13 posted on 06/27/2008 7:59:34 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: TKDietz
Nissenbaum, Dion (January 10, 2007). Death toll of Israeli civilians killed by Palestinians hit a low in 2006. Washington Bureau. McClatchy Newspapers. Retrieved on 2007-04-16. “Israel's summer war with Hezbollah in the north and small rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip in the south have overshadowed a striking reality: Fewer Israeli civilians died in Palestinian attacks in 2006 than in any year since the Palestinian uprising began in 2000. Palestinian militants killed 23 Israelis and foreign visitors in 2006, down from a high of 289 in 2002 during the height of the uprising. Most significant, successful suicide bombings in Israel nearly came to a halt. Last year, only two Palestinian suicide bombers managed to sneak into Israel for attacks that killed 11 people and wounded 30 others. Israel has gone nearly nine months without a suicide bombing inside its borders, the longest period without such an attack since 2000.…An Israeli military spokeswoman said one major factor in that success had been Israel's controversial separation barrier, a still-growing 250-mile (400 km) network of concrete walls, high-tech fencing and other obstacles that cuts through parts of the West Bank. ‘The security fence was put up to stop terror, and that's what it's doing,’ said Capt. Noa Meir, a spokeswoman for the Israel Defense Forces.…Opponents of the wall grudgingly acknowledge that it's been effective in stopping bombers, though they complain that its route should have followed the border between Israel and the Palestinian territories known as the Green Line.”

It's only 60% complete.

The Berlin Wall comparison to a border wall is also a sly canard. The Berlin Wall imprisoned people. The border wall is to reestablish American Sovereignty.
14 posted on 06/27/2008 8:02:28 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: CSM; RightSideNews; Grimmy; BradyLS; DeLaVerdad; YourAdHere; Be_Politically_Erect; Ultimatum; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


15 posted on 06/27/2008 8:15:41 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: TKDietz

It’s a fence.


16 posted on 06/27/2008 8:25:00 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: Kozak
I am still not convinced. I remain opposed to a Berlin Wall on our Southern border. You say using that term is a “sly canard.” I don't think so. I'm sure they told East Germans the wall was to protect their sovereignty. I don't think we need it. I do not believe it would work nearly as well as so many seem to think it will. My gosh, people seem to think it will stop all the illegal workers from coming over, all the highly motivated criminal types, all the drugs. Horse manure. If we build a 12 foot fence they'll use 13 foot ladders. They'll dig tunnels, fly over it, cut through it, go on water. If they are motivated enough they'll find a way in. We aren't talking about a few miles of border like the Israelis, and we aren't ever going to be able to afford the extensive manned fortifications they are building. We don't get billions of dollars in foreign aid to help with our defense. I see a huge fence along our Southern border as being an ugly eye sore bound to cost a fortune to build and maintain in the future, one with negative environmental impact, that really accomplishes very little in the way of good. It would reduce the flow of illegals coming here to work, but there are a lot cheaper less intrusive ways to do that. It won't stop the flow of drugs. It won't stop the criminal element from Mexico smuggling and distributing drugs. We've never had a fence along an entire border before, few countries have, and we sure don't need one now. But you are free to be of a different opinion.
17 posted on 06/27/2008 8:32:26 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: SwinneySwitch

Same difference.


18 posted on 06/27/2008 8:33:11 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz


Right. Can't be done.
19 posted on 06/27/2008 8:42:45 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Kozak

Glad you agree.


20 posted on 06/27/2008 8:44:41 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz

Like a humvee and an Abrams.


21 posted on 06/27/2008 8:46:27 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


22 posted on 06/27/2008 8:49:01 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: SwinneySwitch

What are you talking about?


23 posted on 06/27/2008 8:51:48 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: SwinneySwitch

Seems the most important word in the article was “illegal”. If ya came here illegally, I don’t care what happens to ya.


24 posted on 06/27/2008 9:04:09 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: TKDietz

Same difference?


25 posted on 06/27/2008 9:04:13 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Same concept, and if you look at what a lot of people want built a simple wall pales in comparison.


26 posted on 06/27/2008 9:10:47 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: SwinneySwitch

`temp. approaching 100 degrees”

But it’s a dry heat....


27 posted on 06/27/2008 9:22:36 AM PDT by tumblindice ("Aye aye aye!" Bumblebee Man)
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To: TKDietz

The Secure Fence act isn’t JUST about a fence. It authorizes the installation of more lighting, vehicle barriers, and border checkpoints, while putting in place more advanced equipment like sensors, cameras, satellites and unmanned aerial vehicles.

And about 6000 more agents.

Lookin better now?


28 posted on 06/27/2008 9:28:54 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: OldNavyVet

“This story has a moral ...

If Mexican individuals had the right to bear arms, they would have in thier hands the way to better government.”

And our congress is sending them 1.5 billion to fight crime in Mexico because of OUR guns going there (they say) The government of the US and Mexico doesn’t want Mexico fixed.


29 posted on 06/27/2008 9:34:49 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: wolfcreek

Looking more expensive. I’m not really opposed to the Secure Fence Act though.


30 posted on 06/27/2008 9:42:34 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: Kozak

I still think welfare and employer sanctions would take care of most of them.

Sanctions: $100,000 for each known illegal (far less if the company did due diligence, but the illegal’s forged papers were too good). Whoever reports a business that gets sanctioned keeps half. So Maria working in the sweat shop of 20 illegals will turn in her employer to get a cool million tax-free and go back to Mexico to live comfortably for the rest of her life. Every business that uses illegals will be afraid of its employees turning it in.

All public services required by law to check ID. If it’s an emergency room, treat’em and deport’em.


31 posted on 06/27/2008 9:56:34 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: TKDietz

“I’m not really opposed to the Secure Fence Act though.”

Just the fence?

All the afore mentioned items were included in the original act.


32 posted on 06/27/2008 10:26:53 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: TKDietz
I am not convinced that Israel has had great success. Israel still has illegals. They still have terrorists coming in and bringing bombs.

how old are you? Prior to them building that wall (which is still only party done) they had massive bombings darn near weekly. Now it is down to a mere trickle. YES it HAS succeeded.

The Berlin wall was to keep people IN. Big difference. Only prisons build fences to keep folks in. But LOTS of places, including many residential homes, have fences to keep people OUT.
33 posted on 06/27/2008 11:10:25 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: wolfcreek
“Just the fence?”

Not really. I don't mind us having some fences in areas where lots of illegals are coming over. I said that before. I don't think we need one stretching across our entire southern border.

34 posted on 06/27/2008 11:27:25 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz

Oh don’t worry. When it’s all said and done, we’ll be lucky to get half.

Actually, less than half. More like a third of the nearly 2000 miles.


35 posted on 06/27/2008 11:34:20 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: TalonDJ
All this talk about Israel is kind of silly because there really is no comparison. Israel is a very small country with unbelievable security in place because they have to have it. They are also more or less a police state, by necessity. All of this costs them a fortune, but they receive a fortune in foreign aid to pay for it, and they have to spend that money because they have well funded enemies all around them that want to kill them. They have not only their fortifications and expensive technical wizardry but also an awful lot of highly trained manpower to back it up, manpower unfettered by prohibitions against discrimination and racial profiling. They have a total security package that is phenomenal, but it's also phenomenally expensive and it's a lot more intrusive than anything Americans would stand for. We're not going to have what they have. We wouldn't even want what they have. It would be overkill and it would bankrupt us. We're not a tiny little country in the Middle East. We're a huge nation with thousands of miles worth of borderland and the nations that border us are not our enemies. We don't need what Israel has.
36 posted on 06/27/2008 11:56:30 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: AuntB
And our congress is sending them 1.5 billion to fight crime in Mexico because of OUR guns going there (they say)

Most of the gun problem is created by THEIR drugs coming HERE. I read recently 89% of the meth comes from Mexico (it was either that or 90+%) which of course is also our fault (according to Mexico) because we create the demand of their drugs. Is there anything that happens in Mexico that isn't the fault of the US?

I'll say one thing for Calderon, at least he's trying to fix the drug problem. I think it's actually getting worse with all the killings lately but part of that is because he's cracking down on drug dealers.

Which is of course, another couple of good reasons to build the fence (drugs and violence).

37 posted on 06/27/2008 2:04:58 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl

“Is there anything that happens in Mexico that isn’t the fault of the US?”

Ummm....no.

I don’t know if Mexico uses ‘guilt’ or corruption against our officials. Whatever it is, it sure works like a charm, doesn’t it? Some of my relatives were experts at that guilt stuff....no matter how irresponsible they were, somehow it was always my fault, just for “being” sometimes. Eventually, even I figured it out. I wish some of them were deportable. :<)


38 posted on 06/27/2008 2:10:50 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: TKDietz

“We’re a huge nation with thousands of miles worth of borderland and the nations that border us are not our enemies.”

I enjoyed your post until that line. I would disagree....Mexico is our enemy. They even vote with our enemies in the UN. More of our citizens die every year because of Mexico’s policies and citizens than die in Iraq or 9/11. They send up poison food. Their army runs around shooting at our LEO’s in our country. Their military escorts gangs that kill more kids than anyone. They harbor and smuggle terrorists from terrorist sponsoring countries.
Mexico and it’s citizens bleed the taxpayer and overwhelm law enforcement and the courts.

This is a friend??


39 posted on 06/27/2008 2:18:29 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: TKDietz

Mexico is an enemy nation.


40 posted on 06/27/2008 2:25:04 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: TKDietz
and the nations that border us are not our enemies

Well...Canada isn't.

41 posted on 06/27/2008 2:31:18 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: TKDietz
Mexico is not our enemy, eh? Let's pick up that statement and examine it a bit now, shall we?

On a slow night 5,000 Mexicans cross northward illegally, and on a busy night the number is closer to 10,000. That is a de-facto invasion, and it is unsustanable. Currently, more Mexicans their country for El Norte than do Mexicans leave Mexico via ALL causes of Mexican death COMBINED --disease, old age, and murder.

What is occuring is that one country is absorbing the other, a bit like a bacteriophage (that's an organism that feeds on bacteria), but on a national level Indeed, the idea that the US west is an Atzlan that was treacherously stolen from Mexico (and will be re-conquered) is actively taught, widely believed, and taken for granted on many elite US campuses.

Currently, US forces make very aggresive use of UAV's, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles--incredibly efficient flying robots of unprecidented persistence, range and image resolution. With them, great swathes of land can be monitored quickly, quietly, reliably, cheaply, and remotely. Yet while they do this constantly and in-depth thousands of miles away in the Middle-East, they barely do so on our very own doorstep.

And at exactly the same time we train Egyptian military people here in the US how to detect underground tunnels favored by terrorists, our own southern border was found to have something like 50 tunnels or more, and no similar training is given for our own Border Patrol.

Mexico is full of wonderful people, and even so, they ARE our enemy, there IS a war going on, even if one-sided.

Mexico is more and more a Failed State, and we had better start acting like it and FIGHTING BACK --Mexico is our enemy.

42 posted on 06/27/2008 8:40:19 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kozak
A GREAT reason to build a fence. To prevent more sad stories like this. Build it NOW.

Amen! Too bad all the shade wil be on our side.

43 posted on 06/27/2008 9:59:31 PM PDT by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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