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Obama not eligible to be CIC?
Posted on 06/27/2008 7:28:35 AM PDT by MGBGUN
What about this? Any truth to it?
Obama is NOT ELIGIBLE to be President. We already know that Obama is not QUALIFIED to be President, we now know that he is not ELIGIBLE to be President under American law. This is a great comment to a post over at Michelle Malkin’s blog:
On June 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am, legendx3 said: Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal . US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because ofHawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* .. In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia . Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very interested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence.. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; zot
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:28:35 AM PDT
by
MGBGUN
To: MGBGUN
Forwarded Email is rarely a good way to get accurate information
2
posted on
06/27/2008 7:29:28 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: AppyPappy; MGBGUN
Forwarded Email is rarely a good way to get accurate information Especially when there are already multiple threads on the subject.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:31:15 AM PDT
by
Fundamentally Fair
(When all you have is a kitty, every problem looks like a troll.)
To: MGBGUN
Isn't this along the same lines as McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone, so therefore he is not eligible to be CIC?
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:33:02 AM PDT
by
frogjerk
(Barry Hussein is Neville Chamberlain)
To: MGBGUN
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:33:11 AM PDT
by
Fundamentally Fair
(When all you have is a kitty, every problem looks like a troll.)
To: MGBGUN
He was born in the united states. His mother didn’t have to be married or a citizen.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:34:07 AM PDT
by
Soliton
(Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
To: MGBGUN
After Obama was born, the law was changed so that he’d be a natural born citizen. Was the change retroactive? I suspect it was.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:34:13 AM PDT
by
Brilliant
To: MGBGUN
The law was never intended -- and has never been construed as -- preventing those born to American mothers under the age of 21 from being citizens. This is silliness. The Democrats tried to do this kind of hypertechnical crap in 2000, when they accused Bush and Cheney of both being from the same state (Texas), which would have violated another provision of the Constitution.
Historically, courts have shown extreme reluctance to inject themselves into this kind of situation, and I think you'd have an awfully hard time persuading any kind of judge to rule Obama ineligible for the presidency.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:34:18 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: All
File this under “GOP candidate really sucks...we’re doomed”
Constitutionally. Obama meets the citizenship qualifications to be President. Instead of parseing such minimal stuff....its better to stick to the political issues regarding Obama
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:34:32 AM PDT
by
UCFRoadWarrior
(John McCain's three favorite words: Made In China)
To: MGBGUN
Obama claims to have been born in Hawaii, which was already a state when he was born. If so, he is a natural-born citizem under the 14th amendment. Unless someone can come up with rock-solid proof he was born in another country, this isn't going anywhere...and maybe not even then.
Meanwhile, we can count on the NY Times occasionally wondering whether John McCain is disqualified by virtue of having been born in the US Canal Zone.
To: MGBGUN
To: AppyPappy
I agree that the “natural citizen” argument is thin, BUT I also agree with those who’ve examined the Kos and Stop the Smear docs and pronounced them phony. What I can’t understand is why the campaign would so risk Obama’s and the Smear site’s credibility on such an issue as his birth certificate.
To: AppyPappy
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:38:24 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
To: Verginius Rufus
Yup. Born in America to an American mother. Pretty much nails it.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:39:44 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: MGBGUN
This stuff is stupid and annoying.
He’s the Dem candidate, deal with that. This kind of stuff makes conservatives look like the ignorant, knuckle dragging, mouth breathing rednecks the left believes us to be.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:40:05 AM PDT
by
brownsfan
(Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
To: frogjerk
McCain was born on a Naval Base.....American soil.
If any of the bruhaha is true about Obama, mommy wasn't on US soil long enough to be a naturalized citizen.
Frankly, I'm more interested in his birth name. If he was born a Christian name from mom and changed it to BHO later, that pretty much shows he fell for the Farrakhan/ Reverend Wright BS later in life. Kinda like Cassius Clay/ M. Ali. I don't think dreaming of being a Muslim like dear old dad will go over good, even in his cocaine using youth.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:41:16 AM PDT
by
chuckles
To: Verginius Rufus
14th Amendment: “All persons born ... in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States”. ‘nuff said.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:42:09 AM PDT
by
ctdonath2
(The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
To: MGBGUN
Read and enjoy and then come tell us what you think?
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:43:41 AM PDT
by
deport
( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
To: chuckles
“mommy wasn’t on US soil long enough to be a naturalized citizen.”
Huh? Mommy was born in Kansas.
To: Alter Kaker
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:44:59 AM PDT
by
Obadiah
(I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
To: frogjerk
Isn't this along the same lines as McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone, so therefore he is not eligible to be CIC? Now, what was the difference? Bet you cannot guess. Who was McCain's mother and father. Were they US citizens?
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:45:20 AM PDT
by
Logical me
(Oh, well!!!)
To: deport
“Read and enjoy and then come tell us what you think?”
That you need to get a life?
To: MGBGUN
Is there really anyone that thinks he would have gotten this far, if he wasn’t eligible?
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:45:57 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
(Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
To: MGBGUN
He was not born. A crow shat on a fence post and the sun hatched him out.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:47:07 AM PDT
by
Piquaboy
(22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
To: MGBGUN
That law was for children born OUTSIDE of the US and its territories.
Obama was born on US soil to a natural born citizen. He can serve.
To: deport
You need a life, son. This is the kind of stuff that'll paint the GOP as kookish. Obama's weak on issues. Conspiracy theories won't get us anywhere.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:49:03 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: Slapshot68
Yep........ this topic has been beat, discussed, dissected, and still getting play...... Lots of threads out there if anyone wants to spend time reading.....
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:49:21 AM PDT
by
deport
( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
To: Alter Kaker
“You need a life, son. This is the kind of stuff that’ll paint the GOP as kookish. Obama’s weak on issues. Conspiracy theories won’t get us anywhere.”
Post of the day.
To: Alter Kaker
I need to get a life............ lol
It’s not me hounding this topic to death on FR. It’s others posting threads . I only provided a source link to them.
I agree there are many things more important to take Obama to task over rather than this item. Now proceed on with exploration.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:51:41 AM PDT
by
deport
( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
To: deport
“Yep........ this topic has been beat, discussed, dissected, and still getting play...”
So do the topics of faked moon landings, bigfoot and 911 conspiracy theories. Hardly an endorsement of legitimacy.
To: brownsfan
To: Logical me
Who was McCain's mother and father. Were they US citizens? What difference does it make? Obama was born in the United States of America. Andrew Jackson's parents weren't US citizens either. Should we take him off the $20 bill?
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:53:39 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: MGBGUN
Take it to the Supreme Court and there would be a 5-4 ruling on it but who knows which way?
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:55:50 AM PDT
by
tobyhill
(The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
To: Slapshot68
I’ve never said this was a legit topic... keep bumping it along.
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posted on
06/27/2008 7:56:53 AM PDT
by
deport
( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
To: Slapshot68
I rather have to agree that the intention of the qualification was that both mother and father were “loyal Americans”, i.e., citizens of the USA.
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posted on
06/27/2008 8:01:36 AM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
(I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
To: Verginius Rufus
Unless someone can come up with rock-solid proof he was born in another country, this isn't going anywhere...and maybe not even then.I'd like to become President. Although I am a UK FReeper, what you are saying is that the onus is on YOU to prove I wasn't born in America. I can just claim citizenship.
What's that? You'd like me to present my Birth Certificate? Umm, look, I put a photo-shopped fake up on my presidential website. Isn't that good enough for you?
To: agere_contra
For the purpose of establishing basic qualifications for holding elective office, the historic burden of proof in the US has always been on those trying to disprove a candidate’s qualifications. That means you have to prove that he’s not a natural born citizen, which I don’t think is even remotely possible.
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posted on
06/27/2008 8:05:49 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: Brilliant
Althought, that could be construed as ex post facto....
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posted on
06/27/2008 8:06:52 AM PDT
by
illiac
(If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
To: Slapshot68
Mommy got preggers in Africa and stayed long enough to have to be in the US for a certain period( I think 5 years) to be naturalized. She was only here a short time to have BHO. It's a legal thingy. Most people wouldn't think anything about it, but there are teams of lawyers looking at every orifice they can right now. If she was only in the US for a short time after being in Africa several years, there could be a problem. Mommy may not have been “naturalized” if she wasn't in America long enough. It would be the same problem if Juan Valdez is an “anchor baby” and decides to run for Prez. If mom wasn’t a naturalized citizen, he can't ever be president even though he is a citizen.
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posted on
06/27/2008 8:09:51 AM PDT
by
chuckles
To: frogjerk
Panama Canal Zone was U.S. territory until it was turned over to the Panamanians under the Torrijos-Carter Treaty by Obama’s mentor in 1979.
To: illiac
It makes no difference. Not all ex post facto laws are unconstitutional—only those which take away rights.
I think Obama’s campaign is setting up issues like this and the Muslim thing in order to say “see, the GOP is swift boating me, they have no new ideas”.
Then when people FINALLY get to the real issues, his hard left policies that are neo-marxist he will just call it another smear and ignore it.
It is the little boy who cried wolf syndrome and the MSM will go right alone with it.
To: Alter Kaker
Wow, really? Well, Ok then.
I have to say I’m astonished, nay gob-smacked, but if that is the case - that Obama really doesn’t have to produce certification due to simple precedent - then it’s not worth worrying about this a moment longer.
But do any of the other elective jobs require you to be native-born? If the President is the only such job, then I think we may justly challenge Obama on it.
To: MGBGUN
If he was born in Hawaii then under the 14th amendment Obama is a natural born citizen, even if his parents were two space aliens from the planet Mongo.
The question is, can Barry prove he was born in Hawaii? He probably can, but so far he hasn’t.
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posted on
06/27/2008 8:25:53 AM PDT
by
devere
To: chuckles
Obama’s mother was born in Kansas...she didn’t have to be naturalized, she was a US citizen by birth. Is there any evidence she was ever in Africa in her life? She met Obama’s father while he was a student in the US.
To: Alter Kaker
I have felt all along that this is not about where he was born. IMO it appears dubious that his parents were legally married. If this is the case, the original birth cert would show that he was an illegitimate child. I would imagine the campaign feels this would not play well with some percentage of the population and therefore does not want to release the original birth certificate.
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posted on
06/27/2008 8:37:20 AM PDT
by
freespirited
(A Democrat is a person who lives in fear that someone, somewhere is proud to be an American.)
To: Crimson Elephant
BINGO!!!!!
You hit a bases loaded four bagger.
To: MGBGUN
I don’t remember any question of eligibility of a presidentail candidate ever arising before in our history.
Whatever the merits of the discussion about fake birth certificates, I have this question:
Is there any mechanism for checking something like this out? Is the Federal Election Commission empowered to check on the qualifications such as age, citizenship, etc. If not, who is?
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posted on
06/27/2008 8:42:15 AM PDT
by
wildbill
( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
To: freespirited
I have felt all along that this is not about where he was born. IMO it appears dubious that his parents were legally married. If this is the case, the original birth cert would show that he was an illegitimate child. I would imagine the campaign feels this would not play well with some percentage of the population and therefore does not want to release the original birth certificate I think its something else as well, not whether hes a citizen or not. I find the race description "African" odd, maybe that's the item being messed with. I've read on a number of threads that he's only 6% black or some such nonsense. I know this is out there, but maybe he father was listed as something other than black (Arab maybe) and they are trying to hide that.
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posted on
06/27/2008 8:47:31 AM PDT
by
Slicksadick
(Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
To: Soliton
He was born in the united states. His mother didn’t have to be married or a citizen. You are correct.
There three ways to become a US citizen. The first two meet the requirement of being “natural born”.
First is Jus Sanguinus the “law of blood” where by you derive citizenship through your parents as in the case of McCain.
Second is Jus Solis the “law of place” meaning being born in the continental US or territories including Hawaii (at that time), Guam, Porto Rico and I believe the US Virgin Islands. This is how Obama qualifies.
Third is through naturalization.
People need to get off this its making us look stupid. If he was born is Hawaii he is a US citizen through Jus Solis. If he was born overseas only then would the status of his mother come into question.
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06/27/2008 8:49:47 AM PDT
by
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