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Gun ruling galvanizes groups -- NRA to target other city laws; foes vow to boost resistance
Washington Times ^ | June 27, 2008 | Jim McElhatton

Posted on 06/27/2008 7:51:17 AM PDT by Zakeet

Within minutes of the Supreme Court ruling overturning the District's gun ban, leaders of the National Rifle Association began work on legal challenges against gun restrictions in Chicago and San Francisco, while gun-control groups said the decision would only strengthen their efforts.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which fought in support of the city's handgun ban, predicted that the decision would "embolden criminal defendants, and ideological extremists, to file new legal attacks on existing gun laws."

"With the help of the Brady Center's legal team, those attacks can, and must, be successfully resisted in the interest of public safety," he said.

The NRA and Gun Owners of America both say they're planning to use the ruling as a springboard to challenge state and local laws across the country.

"Certainly things like the Chicago handgun ban, which is very similar to what Washington, D.C., had, those are the kind of things we would want to look at," said Erich Pratt, a spokesman for Gun Owners of America. "We're definitely going to be in the middle of all of that."

Mr. Pratt also noted comments by Justice Stephen G. Breyer that the decision "threatens to throw into doubt the constitutionality of gun laws throughout the United States."

"When Justice Breyer is sad, we're happy," Mr. Pratt said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; heller; nra; secondamendment; seconodamendment; shallnotbeinfringed

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, predicts the Supreme Court ruling will "embolden criminal defendants, and ideological extremists."

1 posted on 06/27/2008 7:51:17 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
Its not public safety the Left cares about. Its about running our lives. We want the Brady Bunch do gooders and the rest of Left to stop treading on us. Leave us alone!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 06/27/2008 7:53:37 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet

Why should we even have to fight these other cities gun laws? They should be immediately rendered moot by this decision.


3 posted on 06/27/2008 7:57:43 AM PDT by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: westmichman
Heller applied only to D.C. Hence the need for more litigation.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 06/27/2008 7:58:41 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet

“With the help of the Brady Center’s legal team, those attacks can, and must, be successfully resisted in the interest of public safety,”

Bold words from a statist who just had his ideological A$$ handed to him by SCOTUS!


5 posted on 06/27/2008 7:59:41 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Zakeet

I hope this forces the left to throw resources into losing battles.


6 posted on 06/27/2008 8:00:23 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72
I hope they argue with a straight face why Americans can't have an individual right to keep and bear arms, which is mentioned in the Constitution, while they run around arguing that abortion shouldn't have any legal limits even though its mentioned nowhere in our founding document!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 06/27/2008 8:02:53 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Panzerlied

Translation:

We will use any news, any tragedy, to get you to send us more money.


8 posted on 06/27/2008 8:03:29 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: goldstategop

I’d rather see them drilling this dry well than trying to give our enemies more rights.


9 posted on 06/27/2008 8:04:47 AM PDT by AU72
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To: westmichman
Why should we even have to fight these other cities gun laws? They should be immediately rendered moot by this decision.

Heller was based on a federal, not state issue. We need to force incorporation. I hope this happens sooner rather than later, especially before the court makeup changes.

10 posted on 06/27/2008 8:05:04 AM PDT by umgud
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To: goldstategop

Well, if they were smart they wouldn’t fight us. After all, we got the guns. Then again, we know they are not too smart.


11 posted on 06/27/2008 8:06:55 AM PDT by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: Zakeet

Heller said it best with asking why can’t he defend his life.


12 posted on 06/27/2008 8:08:08 AM PDT by junta (White liberals the soft underbelly of the fat pig known as the Democratic party. apologies to pigs)
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Here’s one “idealogical extremist” that stands against Helmke.


13 posted on 06/27/2008 8:08:30 AM PDT by monkeycard (There's no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: umgud
Most states have constitutional guarantees of the RKBA in their state constitutions that's more explicit and extensive than that offered by the federal Constitution. So there's an understanding of gun rights that has very deep roots in America. All that needs to be done is get those guarantees enforced in states where they have historically been ignored, like in Illinois.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 06/27/2008 8:10:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
I hope they argue with a straight face why Americans can't have an individual right to keep and bear arms, which is mentioned in the Constitution, while they run around arguing that abortion shouldn't have any legal limits even though its mentioned nowhere in our founding document!

This is a point that I have made several times. Supreme court rulings and even the cases they have elected to hear have drifted away from the original intent stated in the constitution of the Judicial Branch and Supreme Court.

Abortion was allowed to be heard in front of the Supreme Court by way of "Privacy Rights" protected by the constitution. The Supreme court should not have even heard the case on the grounds that privacy was not the issue. The court should have said, "We have no authority here. It is a matter for the legislative or executive branch to handle by way of laws or a Constitutional Amendment." The laws would have continued to be written state by state, as they previously were and should be today.

This was a case that should not have had to go to the Supreme Court, but it is, never-the-less a case that the supreme court was intended to rule on. It was directly challenging the interpretation of the constitution, regardless of how insanely obvious it should be.

15 posted on 06/27/2008 8:14:12 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We have the ability to shape & polish turds, make em smell nice & sell them as public services)
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To: Zakeet
NRA to target other city laws; foes vow to boost resistance
NRA to target other city laws; foes COMMUNISTS vow to boost resistance
16 posted on 06/27/2008 8:15:47 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: umgud

“Heller was based on a federal, not state issue”.

I know what you are saying but dosn’t this trump state issues?


17 posted on 06/27/2008 8:26:43 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: westmichman

I agree. But you will first have to get a judge to declare the law unconstitutional in a court of law. Some extremist judges will simply refuse to accept Heller and will have to be slapped down at the appellate level.


18 posted on 06/27/2008 8:57:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: goldstategop
I hope they argue with a straight face why Americans can't have an individual right to keep and bear arms, which is mentioned in the Constitution, while they run around arguing that abortion shouldn't have any legal limits even though its mentioned nowhere in our founding document!

Which leads me to ask; If Roe v Wade did not apply only to Texas, why do you think District of Columbia v. Heller would apply only to D.C.?

19 posted on 06/27/2008 2:40:21 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok

Well, Texas is a state, so once it applied there it applies to all states. DC isn’t a state, so it doesn’t apply ot other states.

If the Court strikes the Chicago ban, for example, then the ruling would apply to all 50 states, just like Roe,

From the opinion, and the makeup of the Justices, it’s pretty clear that they wil apply it to the states when the case presents itself.


20 posted on 06/27/2008 4:59:01 PM PDT by jeltz25
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