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Jenna Wedding Pastor Starts Pro-Obama Web Site
newsmax.com ^ | June 27, 2008 | Jim Meyers

Posted on 06/27/2008 1:41:46 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, the minister who presided over the recent marriage of President Bush’s daughter Jenna, has launched a pro-Barack Obama Web site sharply critical of conservative stalwart James Dobson.

Caldwell, leader of the largest Methodist congregation in the country, launched his “James Dobson Does Not Speak For Me” site a day after Dobson’s Focus on the Family radio program aired a statement charging that Obama distorted the Bible to fit “his own confused theology.”

The site urges readers to sign a statement declaring that Dobson does not represent them.

The statement reads in part:

“James Dobson doesn't speak for me.

“He doesn't speak for me when he uses religion as a wedge to divide.

“He doesn't speak for me when he speaks as the final arbiter on the meaning of the Bible…

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bds; blackchurch; blamebushfirst; blueturban; bushtwins; dobson; houston; kirbyjoncaldwell; obama; politicking; religiousleft; tx2008; umc
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1 posted on 06/27/2008 1:41:47 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Bushes obviously need to find a new church.


2 posted on 06/27/2008 1:42:57 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody

Bushs’ Fault™!


3 posted on 06/27/2008 1:44:36 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Senior Pastor Kirbyjon Caldwell

This should come as no surprise. Jenna is reaching out to people who will be nice on the surface, but will really never accept her.

4 posted on 06/27/2008 1:45:46 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“He doesn't speak for me when he speaks as the final arbiter on the meaning of the Bible…"

Any more than you speak for me, numbn*ts.

Its called an opinion, clearly something leftists, methodists and otherwise, have difficulty tolerating.

5 posted on 06/27/2008 1:47:19 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Anti-Bubba182

It’s a black thing.


6 posted on 06/27/2008 1:48:15 PM PDT by threeoeight
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To: skeeter

... and at least Dobson’s opinions are scripturally defensible.


7 posted on 06/27/2008 1:48:25 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Free ThinkerNY

IF,IF, IF, this man gets into office, WE WILL deserve what WE GET!!!!!!!God Bless America.


8 posted on 06/27/2008 1:49:16 PM PDT by ejo
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To: MEGoody

This guy is out of Houston, not exactly a Crawford local.....how the heck did Jenna find him?


9 posted on 06/27/2008 1:49:49 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (It's the Vast Wright Wing Conspiracy - labeling all whites as racist.)
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To: MEGoody

Caldwell, leader (of the what used to be the) largest Methodist congregation in the country, launched his “James Dobson Does Not Speak For Me” site a day after Dobson’s Focus on the Family radio program aired a statement charging that Obama distorted the Bible to fit “his own confused theology

fixed it


10 posted on 06/27/2008 1:52:28 PM PDT by SPRINK
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Does the Bush family even know a conservative?


11 posted on 06/27/2008 1:52:33 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: MEGoody

Caldwell, leader (of the what used to be the) largest Methodist congregation in the country, launched his “James Dobson Does Not Speak For Me” site a day after Dobson’s Focus on the Family radio program aired a statement charging that Obama distorted the Bible to fit “his own confused theology

fixed it


12 posted on 06/27/2008 1:52:53 PM PDT by SPRINK
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To: rrrod
Does the Bush family even know a conservative?

Not since 6/5/04.

13 posted on 06/27/2008 1:56:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The content of his color.
14 posted on 06/27/2008 1:56:54 PM PDT by Ratblaster ( Obama's house, Rezko's yard)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“He doesn’t speak for me when he speaks as the final arbiter on the meaning of the Bible…”

But, Reverend Caldwell, weren’t there some specific theological statements and questions that Obama and Dobson had their exchange about? Maybe you could enlighten us concerning your views on those specifics, rather issuing such a sweeping and highly unspecific statement.


15 posted on 06/27/2008 2:00:09 PM PDT by Will88
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To: MEGoody

Do the Bushes really go to this church? They display nothing but white people on every single one of their web pages!!

I thought the Bushes would be more inclusive.


16 posted on 06/27/2008 2:00:28 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter II)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I question any "ministers" sense of reason how they could support Obama given his stance on killing the helpless unborn.

Obama's abortion extremism

But Obama's record on abortion is extreme. He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called "too close to infanticide." Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban. In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion. And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life.

17 posted on 06/27/2008 2:00:42 PM PDT by A message
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Why on earth would anyone think Jenna picked him?

How much churchgoing in Houston has she done in the last eight years?


18 posted on 06/27/2008 2:00:47 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We all either forgot or tried to suppress the fact that we elected the least offensive liberal in the 2000 race. We may not even be that fortunate in 2008.


19 posted on 06/27/2008 2:03:57 PM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Dobson, Caldwell, nor Obama speak for me.


20 posted on 06/27/2008 2:04:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: Steamburg

I certainly, in some ways can’t disagree with you. However, in lieu of yesterday’s Supreme Court decision, I am glad we have had him.


21 posted on 06/27/2008 2:06:16 PM PDT by not bad at all (Let's unite and win in 08)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Well there you go. Nice.
22 posted on 06/27/2008 2:06:57 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: rrrod
Yes. They know John McCain. (joking of course)
23 posted on 06/27/2008 2:07:48 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am disappointed in Kirbyjon Caldwell, Armstrong Williams and all the other black Christians, and/or conservatives who are saying that they are supporting Obama because he is black. I thought they were Christians and/or conservatives who happened to be black, but they are not. At least they have revealed themselves for who they are.


24 posted on 06/27/2008 2:09:32 PM PDT by Warriormom
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To: rrrod
Does the Bush family even know a conservative? - Excellent
25 posted on 06/27/2008 2:09:36 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: MEGoody

Someone raised the issue recently why the Minister of the Methodist Church they attended (and will attend) in Dallas didn’t perform the wedding.

It was a good question then, and an even better question now.


26 posted on 06/27/2008 2:10:06 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I don't see how anyone who is supposedly religious (Christian, Jewish, or Muslim) can vote for a guy like Obama who has a history of supporting abortion and gay marriage. I think it's stated clearly in the teachings of all those religions that it's wrong.
27 posted on 06/27/2008 2:11:20 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (John McCain 2008!)
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To: threeoeight
It’s a black thing.

Bingo. Some folks don't seem to grasp that yet. Others are learning quick.
28 posted on 06/27/2008 2:14:28 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

“This guy is out of Houston, not exactly a Crawford local.....how the heck did Jenna find him?”

In fairness, Jenna hasn’t really ever lived in Crawford, either. It has only been a Bush vacation home since it was built.


29 posted on 06/27/2008 2:14:42 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: threeoeight

You got that right. Kirbyjohn Caldwell = racist.


30 posted on 06/27/2008 2:15:07 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

Furthermore, Obama was recently quoted as saying there were “many ways” people can get to Heaven.

If he believes that, then it’s conclusive . . he’s NOT a Christian.


31 posted on 06/27/2008 2:16:49 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Philo-Junius

“How much churchgoing in Houston has she done in the last eight years?”

You know Jenna well, yes?

What an snarky remark to make.

(my apologies if I misunderstand that remark.)


32 posted on 06/27/2008 2:16:51 PM PDT by hoe_cake (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Finally, a website for all the Dr. Dobson hating freepers to gather.


33 posted on 06/27/2008 2:17:29 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: Warriormom
It's disappointing because they are voting for someone based on race alone. It's something a liberal would do. They could wait until there is a black conservative candidate instead of voting for an extreme liberal who they disagree with on almost all issues just because he's half black.

I have lost respect for all conservatives who have said they may vote for Obama just because he's black.

34 posted on 06/27/2008 2:19:04 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (John McCain 2008!)
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To: rrrod
Does the Bush family even know a conservative?

LOL!

35 posted on 06/27/2008 2:19:43 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: MEGoody

Kirbyjohn prayed a great prayer at Bush’s inauguration. This is disappointing.


36 posted on 06/27/2008 2:26:07 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And I remember just catching grief from Moderators for having the audacity to hammer away at other freepers fawning over that ‘wonderful wedding’.


37 posted on 06/27/2008 2:26:44 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I would not be surprised to see Jenna create a Pro Obama website.


38 posted on 06/27/2008 2:28:14 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just another phony guilt ridden White liberal looking for a way to publicly atone for his “sin” of marrying a Republican couple. Does anyone find it curious that this came out AFTER the wedding and his name got craved into the history books?


39 posted on 06/27/2008 2:28:24 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“James Dobson doesn't speak for me.
“He doesn't speak for me when he uses religion as a wedge to divide.
“He doesn't speak for me when he speaks as the final arbiter on the meaning of the Bible…

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God."
- Matthew 5:9

40 posted on 06/27/2008 2:30:32 PM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: Warriormom
I thought they were Christians and/or conservatives who happened to be black, but they are not. At least they have revealed themselves for who they are.

Hi Warriormom,

First, if your screenname means what I think it means, that you are the mom of one who served(s) or you are a mom who served(s), thank you and your son/daughter for your/their service.

Second, this here Freeper is a Christian Conservative Republican, American male "black". The first three are by choice, and the last three are by birth.

I guarantee you, in the strongest way I know how, there is NO WAY that this "C.C.R.A.M.B." is voting for He Who Must Not Be Middle Named, nor whoever is his peep (errr....Veep), nor any democrat. Not gonna do it...not gonna go there...never would it be prudent at ANY juncture.

41 posted on 06/27/2008 2:33:48 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("In Israel, the President hit the nail on the head. The nails are complaining loudly." - John Bolton)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

another pro abortion “Christian” minister-pastor-rev.


42 posted on 06/27/2008 2:35:02 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
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To: threeoeight

With a name like “Kirbyjon” as a first name...whodathunkit! :)


43 posted on 06/27/2008 2:36:07 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Obamamaniacs idiot's one and all !)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Oh I see now!

Senior Pastor Kirbyjon Caldwell is pro abortion and a racist.


44 posted on 06/27/2008 2:36:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
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To: jmaroneps37

He a “person of color”.


45 posted on 06/27/2008 2:37:24 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Obamamaniacs idiot's one and all !)
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To: rrrod
Does the Bush family even know a conservative?

The big question to me is does the Bush family want to know a conservative.

46 posted on 06/27/2008 2:39:00 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Caldwell have been a long time spiritual adviser to Bush. Before the wedding he already had declared his support for Obama.


47 posted on 06/27/2008 2:43:55 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I know I’ve heard this name before. This guy has been affiliated with the Bushies for some time now.


48 posted on 06/27/2008 2:47:12 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: what_not2007

There’s still knee-jerk deniers of the obvious:

Jenna has never lived in Houston.

Most people who take their religion seriously want to be married either by their pastor, or by a close friend or mentor. There’s no report that Rev. Kirbyjohn was either to Jenna.

So he’s a family friend at best. Which squares with the initial analysis that Jenna has at best a passing interest in matters ecclesiastical.


49 posted on 06/27/2008 2:48:27 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“James Dobson doesn’t speak for me.

“He doesn’t speak for me when he uses religion as a wedge to divide.

I betcha that Reverend Wright fellow is a closer match though.


50 posted on 06/27/2008 2:48:59 PM PDT by beaversmom
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