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NRA Files Second Amendment Cases in Illinois, California Friday,
NRA - ILA ^ | June 27, 2008 | NA

Posted on 06/27/2008 3:41:22 PM PDT by neverdem


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NRA Files Second Amendment Cases in Illinois, California

Friday, June 27, 2008

Fairfax, Va., June 27-Following up on yesterday’s Supreme Court ruling that the Second Amendment protects a private right to possess firearms that is not limited to militia service, the National Rifle Association of America today filed five lawsuits challenging local gun bans in San Francisco, and in Chicago and several of its suburbs.

“The Supreme Court held yesterday that the Second Amendment right is exercised individually and belongs to all Americans,” said NRA chief lobbyist Chris W. Cox. “These lawsuits will ensure that state and local governments hear those words.”

The San Francisco lawsuit challenges a local ordinance and lease provisions that prohibit possession of guns by residents of public housing in San Francisco. NRA is joined in that suit by the California Rifle and Pistol Association and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

The Chicago case challenges a handgun ban nearly identical to the law struck down yesterday in Washington, D.C. The other Illinois suits challenge handgun bans in the suburban towns of Evanston, Morton Grove and Oak Park.

All five suits raise the issue of the application of the Second Amendment against the states through the Fourteenth Amendment, known in constitutional law as “incorporation.” Because Washington, D.C. is not a state, incorporation was not specifically addressed in yesterday’s Supreme Court decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, but the decision did repeatedly equate the Second Amendment to the First and Fourth Amendments, which have applied to the states for 80 years.

“In Washington, D.C. or in any state, whether you live in the housing projects or a high end suburb, you have the right to defend yourself and your family at home,” Cox concluded. “These laws all deny that right, and NRA will not rest until they are all struck down.”

-NRA-

Established in 1871, the National Rifle Association is America’s oldest civil rights and sportsmen's group. Four million members strong, NRA continues its mission to uphold Second Amendment rights and to advocate enforcement of existing laws against violent offenders to reduce crime. The Association remains the nation's leader in firearm education and training for law-abiding gun owners, law enforcement and the military.




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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; heller; lawsuit; nra; shallnotbeinfringed
They are not wasting too much time.

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DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, et al., PETITIONERS v. DICK ANTHONY HELLER Justice Scalia, Opinion of the Court

1 posted on 06/27/2008 3:41:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Why don’t the people on public housing stop hitting me up for rent before they spend money on guns


2 posted on 06/27/2008 3:45:48 PM PDT by omega4179 ("you can't drill your way out of this" VERO POSSUMUS!)
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To: neverdem

Wow, I just might have to reactivate my membership.


3 posted on 06/27/2008 3:46:40 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Me too....Seems the republicans could take a few lessons from the NRA. Get off your butts and move!


4 posted on 06/27/2008 3:55:50 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: taxcontrol

Phone number to join: 1-800-672-3888


5 posted on 06/27/2008 3:58:18 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: omega4179
Why don’t the people on public housing stop hitting me up for rent before they spend money on guns

I think everone would like to know the answer to that.

6 posted on 06/27/2008 3:59:22 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: taxcontrol

You should never have stopped. The NRA is the sole reason we still have any gun rights in this country today, regardless of some of the politics played by their leaders. Without them we would never have had the time for a ruling of this type to take place.


7 posted on 06/27/2008 4:00:30 PM PDT by calex59
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To: taxcontrol
I'll renew my membership after quitting 5 years ago, when they take some of their millions and start filling law suits against some of these punitive laws allowing local corrupt law enforcement hacks to chose who gets a CCW and who doesn't.

I personally can not understand how they possibly get away with it.

Any law abiding American should be granted a CCW upon demand, and be able to travel to ANY state without being subject to some local government dictator.

8 posted on 06/27/2008 4:09:40 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: taxcontrol

If you were a member you would have noticed the change in the CCW laws, the Castle Doctine laws, the Manufacturer’s Protection laws and the parking lot workplace laws.

There are only four million NRA members doing the work for the other 76 million gunowners.

I would love it if the GOA would pick out a city that the NRA and the SAF haven’t sued and help out. I’m not holding my breath for that. They ignored the Katrina victims. The SAF and the NRA did not.


9 posted on 06/27/2008 4:11:55 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: neverdem
Heller is the Brown v. Board of Education of gun rights. These later cases will build upon the foundation that is Heller, just as later cases built upon Brown.
10 posted on 06/27/2008 4:13:24 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: omega4179

“Why don’t the people on public housing stop hitting me up for rent before they spend money on guns”

Could be they have the guns before they move in and don’t want to give up their means of protection from the thugs that run rampant in those hellholes? Might be given one by a friend or inherit some?

Even selling one’s firearms isn’t going to make much of a dent in the cost of housing.. ESPECIALLY in SF, where a studio apt. can run $2k a month. Personally, I’d at least like to keep one available.


11 posted on 06/27/2008 4:17:09 PM PDT by Mr Inviso
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To: taxcontrol

Me 3. I’ve been waiting a decade and a half for the NRA to say things exactly like this...


12 posted on 06/27/2008 4:23:57 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Good on ya, Shooter. The NRA is the definitive organization of gun owners. I have been a member since 1962, when my uncle, who was an NRA instructor at the Boy Scout Camp at Silver lake in Amador County for many years, told me I should join NRA because they were the only organization fighting to keep our firearms free. I have, and will always be, been a member since that time. Once more, good on ya.


13 posted on 06/27/2008 4:24:12 PM PDT by calex59
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To: dragnet2

Why didn’t you sue if you thought it would have worked?


14 posted on 06/27/2008 4:28:33 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: calex59

Thank you so much for the support. We have been fighting a losing battle for forty years and luckily, Robert Levy’s lawsuit worked.

I wonder where he wants his statue?


15 posted on 06/27/2008 4:31:32 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Well, I don't have the big dollars for the top shelf lawyers, nor the money to bribe the corrupt politicians.

Suing states, counties and local corrupt machines takes rather large sums of money.

16 posted on 06/27/2008 4:34:52 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Shooter 2.5

I used to argue with my brother and others that I worked with that the left was trying to enslave us by outlawing our firearms, this was back in the 50s and 60s. They have all come around to my way of thinking now but it would have been so much better back then if they had recognized the truth!


17 posted on 06/27/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by calex59
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To: neverdem

Incorporation is the magic door that is desparately needed. I wonder how long it will take and what path it will take to reach SCOTUS with these challenges? This would be a good time to pray Obama doesn’t get elected.


18 posted on 06/27/2008 4:36:10 PM PDT by umgud
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To: calex59

> since 1962, when my uncle, who was an NRA instructor at the Boy Scout Camp at Silver lake in Amador County

You have a great memory there.

I remember the huge Boy Scout Jamborees of the mid 60s at Valley Forge, Pa, which was right next to where I lived and still own property.

How Pa. has fallen since then...


19 posted on 06/27/2008 4:37:27 PM PDT by bill1952 (Obama-the only one who can make me vote McCain McCain-the only one who can make me stay at home)
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To: bill1952

Yep, I do have a great memory, but if your uncle was instrumental in bringing you into the firearms world then you would remember also. I was shooting before that but with his tutoring I learned what the 2nd amendment was about.


20 posted on 06/27/2008 4:42:49 PM PDT by calex59
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To: neverdem

As Limbaugh said today, despite their flaws, the NRA still shows exactly how you go on offense, stay on offense and refuse to care what liberal skunkbags say about you.

I can’t wait to hear Mayor Daley sputter like Daffy Duck some more.


21 posted on 06/27/2008 4:53:22 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

But there weren’t 4 dissenters in Brown and the prospect of the next President appointing 1 or 2 justices in the next few years who would overtur the decision.

If Obama wins, this case could be reversed within a few years and gay marriage will be constitutionalized.

If McCain wins and replaces even one of the liberals such as Stevens or Ginsburg, no only will this case be enshrined and strengthened, but Rasul/Boumediene, Bakke/Grutter, Romer/Lawrence, Atkins/Roper/Kennedy and Roe/Casey will be gone as well.

That alone is reason enough to vote McCain.


22 posted on 06/27/2008 4:54:14 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: neverdem
The Heller decision precluded incorporation because it considered only DC's gun control laws. Nothing in Heller prevents gun rights backers from pursuing incorporation doctrine at the local and state level so gun rights receive the same equivalent protection as free speech and religion does under the Constitution.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

23 posted on 06/27/2008 4:55:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dragnet2; Shooter 2.5

Did you call up the NRA and tell them you had a potential test case?


24 posted on 06/27/2008 4:56:55 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: dragnet2

All you had to do is get a large group of people together who had the same grievance and hire one lawyer.

Or are you saying no matter how much money would be pumped into your problem, it wouldn’t have been solved. Maybe the NRA. SAF, Citizen’s Committee, California Rifle Association and the GOA[not that they would spend a nickel] was right.


25 posted on 06/27/2008 4:57:50 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: neverdem


26 posted on 06/27/2008 5:18:56 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: All

A MUST for anyone who supports the second amendment....

http://www.nranews.com


27 posted on 06/27/2008 5:22:56 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Or are you saying no matter how much money would be pumped into your problem

You're implying this is "my" problem. It's yours too, and anyone else that travels into states with punitive restrictive CCW laws, OR thousands of confusing laws that change from state line to state line.

28 posted on 06/27/2008 5:24:07 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: neverdem
Life member of both the NRA and CRPA (Ca. rifle and pistol assoc.).Been a life member of both for over 15 years. Stopped sending them any money 12 years ago. Have not done anything for CA. NRA refused to assist in a shall issue initiative drive. Called them when my rural county passed a law making it very hard to target practice in the county, except for a select few, lawyer called me a year later. Not impressed.
29 posted on 06/27/2008 5:31:07 PM PDT by onceone
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To: Mr. Silverback
Did you call up the NRA and tell them you had a potential test case?

Do ya think the NRA isn't aware? They just kept sending me requests for more money and coupons for t-shirts every month. I sent them money for many years. I eventually decided just to keep my money when they decided to build their expensive new headquarters and corporate office building.

30 posted on 06/27/2008 5:34:15 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: neverdem
I love happy news like these about the lawsuits.

I remember those dark, dismal and depressing years of the Clintons.

31 posted on 06/27/2008 5:58:18 PM PDT by TYVets (In Chicago & New York,,The rights of a criminal shall not be infringed while committing a crime.)
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To: dragnet2
Any law abiding American should be granted a CCW upon demand, and be able to travel to ANY state without being subject to some local government dictator.

Any law abiding American should be carrying openly or concealed as prudence dictates.

32 posted on 06/27/2008 5:59:39 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO cuz I'm too conservative to be a Republican. McCain is the Conservatives true litmus test)
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To: Eagle Eye

GOA Alert - June 27, 2008 GOA Hits The Airwaves On Heller Decision

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2037549/posts


33 posted on 06/27/2008 6:08:39 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Eagle Eye

Agree.


34 posted on 06/27/2008 6:16:25 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
You stated you could not get a CCW license so yes, it's your problem.

I live in Texas and just came back from dinner while wearing my legal concealed firearm.
I don't plan on visiting California again.
Texas is a fairly conservative state so we also have Castle Doctrine, the right to keep guns in our cars at our workplace parking lots and yes, we can own machine guns, fifty caliber BMG rifles and all sorts of goodies without pleading with the state.
Also in Texas the dem party is pretty much like it was before the sixties so they don't mention gun control if they know what's good for them.

I'm also an NRA member in good standing so I have free legal assistance.

Yep, it's your problem.

35 posted on 06/27/2008 6:52:13 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: neverdem
Am I correct that we shouldn't give the NRA any of the credit for Heller, since they didn't want Heller to happen?
36 posted on 06/27/2008 6:55:28 PM PDT by Mariebl
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To: taxcontrol

Go get em boys!!!


37 posted on 06/27/2008 7:03:04 PM PDT by Roklok
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To: Shooter 2.5

In regards to your first sentence. I never said that.


38 posted on 06/27/2008 8:13:39 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: umgud
This would be a good time to pray Obama doesn’t get elected.

It's always a good time to pray. I was one of the fools thinking Heller would be 7 - 2 in our favor. Our right to self defense came down to Justice Weathervane Kennedy. A closet marxist, maybe racist, leads the donkeys. And we got McCain and over $4 per gallon of gas. Aint things just peachy?

39 posted on 06/27/2008 8:39:19 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Mariebl

Interesting question. It was the NRA who helped defeat algore since he lost his own state of Tennessee. That directly was a result of Charleton Heston crisscrossing the state and campaigning for George Bush. Without George Bush in office, we wouldn’t have had Alito or Roberts. We would have lost six to three or there would have never been a lawsuit.

Robert Levy of the Cato Institute is the one who bankrolled and started the lawsuit. He had never owned a firearm and in his words, “never traveled in those circles”. The NRA was scared to death of losing since they could do the math. Luckily, Kennedy came over to our side.

There is a statue of Heston in the lobby of the NRA headquarters. You know. The Headquarters that was so big, they rented out the additional space and it paid for itself already. Next to that statue should be one of Robert Levy.


40 posted on 06/27/2008 8:47:00 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: neverdem

HUA! Build on our victories by taking the battle to the enemy!

Charge!


41 posted on 06/27/2008 8:55:44 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: dragnet2
Do ya think the NRA isn't aware?

What, do they have your house bugged?

Every organization that stands up against injustice knows that people's rights are being violated, but generally they are made aware of specific violations by the people they've been perpetrated against, and that's when they can help.

Sounds like you're more miffed over the office building than lack of action to me. Bring me a guy from a shall issue state who has been denied a permit, called the NRA and was told to pound sand, and then we'll talk.

42 posted on 06/27/2008 8:57:41 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: dragnet2; Shooter 2.5
You're implying this is "my" problem. It's yours too,

It's pretty clear from context that he's talking about the specific problem you had with a specific law enforcement officer, not saying that this is your problem alone.

43 posted on 06/27/2008 9:00:09 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mariebl
Am I correct that we shouldn't give the NRA any of the credit for Heller, since they didn't want Heller to happen?

Not exactly, they backed out of the original Parker et al. case when it first went to the Federal District Court. The NRA wanted to merge it with other cases and have its lawyers assume overall control of the case, IIRC. The Federal District Court summarily dismissed it saying the Second Amendment didn't apply to individuals. The NRA submitted a brief for the appeal of Parker, and son of Parker, Washington D.C. v. Heller. Do you need to see proof?

44 posted on 06/27/2008 9:01:17 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: bill1952
I remember the huge Boy Scout Jamborees of the mid 60s at Valley Forge, Pa...

Ah, yes. Orienteering around Valley Forge. It's a wonder we're still not trying to find our way back to the finish. There was a Winter event I recall where all the troops stood in formation on hard packed snow and ice for what seemed like hours, freezing our extremities off. When we finally marched past the reviewing stand everyone just broke for the vehicles and drove home. WWW

Oh, BTW,

NRA Endowment Member
NRA Personal Protection Instructor
NRA Pistol Instructor
Former NRA Hunter Safety Instructor

45 posted on 06/27/2008 9:24:12 PM PDT by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
What, do they have your house bugged?

Ah, no.

Have a good night.

46 posted on 06/27/2008 9:30:58 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Mr. Silverback

You’re FOC.


47 posted on 06/27/2008 9:34:59 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

English, por favor.


48 posted on 06/28/2008 12:36:20 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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