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Bobby Jindal Signs Law Allowing Intelligent Design in Louisiana Schools
Lifesite News ^ | 06/27/08 | Peter J. Smith

Posted on 06/27/2008 9:40:37 PM PDT by AKSurprise

- Louisiana public school teachers can now educate their students about the theory of intelligent design and scientific criticisms of Darwinian evolutionary theory thanks to a new law signed this week by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.

The Louisiana Science Education Act now allows teachers to supplement the state's curricula with additional scientific materials, but groups opposed to any debate over the "origin of the species" have warned that the new law will become the origin of the lawsuits if they believe it facilitates religion. Lawmakers, however, were enthusiastically in favor of the Act signed by Jindal. The state Senate had passed the bill (SB733) with a unanimous vote, and the state House had approved it by a vote of 93-4.

The new law requires teachers to follow the standard curriculum, but allows a school district to permit a teacher to supplement his course with additional scientific evidence, analysis, and critiques regarding the scientific topics taught to his students.

One major goal of the law is to support an "open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied including, but not limited to, evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning" in public elementary and secondary schools.

The state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education (BESE) will be required, at the request of local school boards, to "include support and guidance for teachers regarding effective ways to help students understand, analyze, critique, and objectively review scientific theories being studied."

Supporters of the law have hailed it as a great step forward for academic freedom in the face of dogmatic proponents of evolution and man-made global warming, who have mischaracterized scientific/philosophical alternatives as "religion."

(Excerpt) Read more at lifesitenews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: crevo; education; globalwarming; intelligentdesign; jindal; noveep4you; scienceeducation
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The more I know about Bobby Jindal, the more I like him. This is excellent news for free speech advocates. It is also a good first step to reclaiming the US education system from its atheist, radical-left-wing captors, who have held the minds, and morality of America's children, and young adults hostage for the past 40 years....
1 posted on 06/27/2008 9:59:07 PM PDT by AKSurprise
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To: AKSurprise

***The new law requires teachers to follow the standard curriculum, but allows a school district to permit a teacher to supplement his course with additional scientific evidence, analysis, and critiques regarding the scientific topics taught to his students.***

Bobby Jindal is fn great! Sheesh, imagine if HE was running against Barak Osama.


2 posted on 06/27/2008 10:01:14 PM PDT by max americana
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To: AKSurprise

At a minimum, students should learn of the concept of “irreducible complexity” and that the chances of life happening “by chance” are astronomically low. And maybe throw in that Richard Dawkins thinks life on earth came from aliens. That should be good for a classroom guffaw.


3 posted on 06/27/2008 10:05:44 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: AKSurprise

The real solution is to get the government out of education and let the parents decide what they want their children to learn through the schools they choose to send their kids too.


4 posted on 06/27/2008 10:06:01 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Precisely right.

And that’s on its way.

The 60’s generation is dying out. Thank God.


5 posted on 06/27/2008 10:08:31 PM PDT by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they're really after folding money.)
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To: AKSurprise

Waiting for the social autists to appear in 5....4....3....


6 posted on 06/27/2008 10:08:35 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: AKSurprise

Our next president (2012)?


7 posted on 06/27/2008 10:08:39 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: HerrBlucher
students should learn of the concept of “irreducible complexity” and that the chances of life happening “by chance” are astronomically low.
That's ridiculous.
8 posted on 06/27/2008 10:10:30 PM PDT by allmost
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To: AKSurprise

...it amazes me that one has to sign a law allowing this.


9 posted on 06/27/2008 10:11:24 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: allmost

And how is it ridiculous?


10 posted on 06/27/2008 10:16:56 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: HerrBlucher

You exist.


11 posted on 06/27/2008 10:19:10 PM PDT by allmost
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To: HerrBlucher

And I would add that “intelligent design” has nothing to do with the “creationist” movement. But of course we can count on someone to equate the two.
In fact, “intelligent design” proponents don’t seek to describe the “designer” or accept the time scales of “creationists”.


12 posted on 06/27/2008 10:21:39 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: AKSurprise

I would prefer to see the government schools shut down. They can NEVER be “reclaimed” from the atheist, socialist, collectivist, anti-American left—because they were created by the atheist, socialist, collectivist, anti-American left.

Government schools don’t just TEACH Communism—they ARE Communism in practice.

There is no reason for government to be running schools. Homeschoolers and private enterprise could and would do a better job, at half the cost, without trampling on the rights of parents and children.

School is the longest-running, most expensive, and most destructive hoax in human history. If children were meant to be raised in litters, they would be born in litters.


13 posted on 06/27/2008 10:21:46 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: allmost
You exist.

Yes, and I thank God for that, not blind chance.

14 posted on 06/27/2008 10:23:03 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: HerrBlucher

:)


15 posted on 06/27/2008 10:25:53 PM PDT by allmost
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To: HerrBlucher

Here, here.... Herr


16 posted on 06/27/2008 10:27:15 PM PDT by AKSurprise ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: count-your-change
And I would add that “intelligent design” has nothing to do with the “creationist” movement. But of course we can count on someone to equate the two. In fact, “intelligent design” proponents don’t seek to describe the “designer” or accept the time scales of “creationists”.

Ditto. However, Orthodox Christianity does not rest on a young earth or and old earth, it is independent of this argument.

17 posted on 06/27/2008 10:27:53 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: AKSurprise
The poor children...

Wow, the stranglehold of the godless is broken. Amazing...

18 posted on 06/27/2008 10:28:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: HerrBlucher
And maybe throw in that Richard Dawkins thinks life on earth came from aliens.

This is not true.

19 posted on 06/27/2008 10:30:23 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Ron Jeremy; JennysCool

Me Too Bump


20 posted on 06/27/2008 10:31:47 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: HerrBlucher

Doesn’t depend or rest but does speak to the issue.
“In the beginning” allows for a long period of time, very long and indeterminate in the account.


21 posted on 06/27/2008 10:36:22 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: HerrBlucher; count-your-change
"Ditto. However, Orthodox Christianity does not rest on a young earth or and old earth, it is independent of this argument."
However, Christianity that is based on a literal reading of the bible is directly based on a young earth.
22 posted on 06/27/2008 10:36:48 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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To: count-your-change
"Doesn’t depend or rest but does speak to the issue.
“In the beginning” allows for a long period of time, very long and indeterminate in the account."
Actually, the allowance for long periods of time tend to evaporate rather quickly when you go back and read the original Hebrew.

23 posted on 06/27/2008 10:44:19 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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To: Fichori
The earth was created the day I was born.

I am the Lord Zed, the almighty ruler of Thon in the Spiz galaxy.

24 posted on 06/27/2008 10:45:19 PM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: stravinskyrules
I am the Lord Zed


25 posted on 06/27/2008 10:49:21 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: HerrBlucher

Are you saying that it is not a matter of chance which particular sperm fertilizes an egg? In this sense, each of us must regard our own particular existence to be the chance result of a lottery with many thousands of possible outcomes, even accepting the circumstances of the sexual encounter leading to the fertilization as a matter of human fate.


26 posted on 06/27/2008 10:51:30 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: AKSurprise
"Who is Xenu? I'm going to tell you a story. Are you sitting comfortably? ... Now Xenu had a problem. All of the 76 planets he controlled were over-populated .... "

Thank's a bunch, Bobby

27 posted on 06/27/2008 10:53:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; stravinskyrules
"I am the Lord Zed"
Just don't go stand on top of a mountain in a thunderstorm yelling 'all the g-d's are b***rds'.

28 posted on 06/27/2008 10:56:18 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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To: dr_lew
This is not true.

True, all he did was speculate on this as a means to get around irreducible complexity. Still he has no answer for irreducible complexity except the hope/faith that some day science will fill the void.

29 posted on 06/27/2008 10:59:21 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: Fichori

Not being a reader of Hebrew I’d appreciate your explanation.


30 posted on 06/27/2008 10:59:37 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: AKSurprise

HUA!


31 posted on 06/27/2008 11:07:10 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: dr_lew
Are you saying that it is not a matter of chance which particular sperm fertilizes an egg? In this sense, each of us must regard our own particular existence to be the chance result of a lottery with many thousands of possible outcomes, even accepting the circumstances of the sexual encounter leading to the fertilization as a matter of human fate.

You are referring to the human body, not the soul. The body is replaced very 7 years or so, but the soul continues on, even after death.

Regarding the body, yes, thousands of possible outcomes, but only one outcome. Was it by chance or divine guidance? Who knows, and ultimately it doesn't matter from a Christian point of view.

32 posted on 06/27/2008 11:07:20 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


33 posted on 06/27/2008 11:09:30 PM PDT by nutmeg (Imagine Commander-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: count-your-change
The first link specifically address 'in the beginning'.
The second link addresses the idea of a 'gap' between Genesis 1:1-2.

Biblical problems for theistic evolution and progressive creation
From the beginning of the creation

I can dig up additional links if you like.
34 posted on 06/27/2008 11:12:18 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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To: Fichori

The young earth idea depends upon attaching a very narrow meaning to the term “day”, far more so than is justified by its use through the Bible.
A literal reading of every verse would be something even Bible writers didn’t do so I see no reason why we should today.


35 posted on 06/27/2008 11:29:56 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Fichori

As it’s past my bedtime I’ll continue in the daylight hours with the links. Thanks.


36 posted on 06/27/2008 11:34:22 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Your welcome.

Goodnight!


37 posted on 06/27/2008 11:35:35 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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To: AKSurprise

Thank you, Bobby Jindal. We need more governors (and more senators, etc.) in this country like Mr. Jindal.


38 posted on 06/27/2008 11:52:46 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Cedar

Ditto! Ditto!


39 posted on 06/28/2008 12:10:06 AM PDT by 1Peter2:16
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To: count-your-change
"The young earth idea depends upon attaching a very narrow meaning to the term “day”, far more so than is justified by its use through the Bible.
A literal reading of every verse would be something even Bible writers didn’t do so I see no reason why we should today."
Here is an article about what is literal and what isn't: Should Genesis be taken literally?

And here is an excerpt/link for an article on how the usage of the word 'day' as used in Genesis 1 can only mean a 24 hour period of time:

The days of creation: A semantic approach

The length of time represented by the ‘days’ of creation in Genesis has been a controversial subject among evangelicals for at least 150 years. During this time, ‘eisegesis has been as common as exegesis.’1 Some have examined the history of the interpretation of the ‘days’ of Genesis 1;2,3 others have studied the variety of definitions for the Hebrew word yôm, translated ‘day’.4,5 To avoid the trap of eisegesis, this study will present a semantic analysis of the word yôm in the Old Testament. However, before discussing the meaning of any single word, it is wise to understand the purpose behind the words which are used in the Bible, and specifically in Genesis 1.
Read full article.


40 posted on 06/28/2008 12:44:57 AM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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To: count-your-change
"And I would add that “intelligent design” has nothing to do with the “creationist” movement."


That is absolutely right. The theory of ID philosophically goes back at least to Aristotle. Einstein was also a proponent of design, but did not believe in the Biblical God. The science of design detection is of more recent origin.
41 posted on 06/28/2008 5:16:26 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: count-your-change
"And I would add that 'intelligent design' has nothing to do with the 'creationist' movement."

The Dover trial proved otherwise.

IDers maintained that the difference from creationism was embodied in the Panda book.

When early drafts of the Panda book were subpoenaed for the trial, they showed that the only difference was that ID had been substituted for creationism in later drafts of the book.

42 posted on 06/28/2008 5:23:25 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: HerrBlucher
Life "happening by chance" is not a feature of the theory of evolution.

Part of the usual creationist misrepresentation before they resort to "you're a Nazi".

43 posted on 06/28/2008 6:08:24 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman
Life "happening by chance" is not a feature of the theory of evolution. Part of the usual creationist misrepresentation before they resort to "you're a Nazi".

I never said that it was.

Nice touch with the Nazi jab....great logic man...../s

44 posted on 06/28/2008 6:29:45 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: AKSurprise; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; Normandy; ...
" One major goal of the law is to support an "open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied including, but not limited to, evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning" in public elementary and secondary schools. "

Yeah. A fair discussing rather than a full court propaganda press.

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

45 posted on 06/28/2008 6:31:05 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: AKSurprise

The more I know about Bobby Jindal, the more I like him


add me to that list.


46 posted on 06/28/2008 6:34:15 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: dr_lew

The short version of the answer is “I bet the baby ends up human.” The possibilities are many, but the restrictions are greater by far.


47 posted on 06/28/2008 6:48:26 AM PDT by Gil4 (If you do what is right eventually the polls will catch up to you)
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To: AKSurprise

Actually, Bobby can be reluctant to take on the opposition. A recall petition was filed against him Friday by disgruntled economic conservatives.


48 posted on 06/28/2008 7:28:52 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: AKSurprise

While we all agree with Jindal on this, be reminded that in 2005 a GWB-appointed judge in liberal PA struck down a countywide “Intelligent Design” law.


49 posted on 06/28/2008 7:31:19 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: JennysCool

“....The 60’s generation is dying out. Thank God....”

Ease up sister! There are lot good folks from that generation. I’m sure you meant top say the 60s hippies, right?


50 posted on 06/28/2008 7:36:20 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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