As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount

Israel Insider ^ | June 28, 2008 | June 28, 2008

[WellyP]

Is it “stonewalling” or game playing? Which ever it is, it has no place in presidential politics.

[snarks_when_bored]

If Obama lacks a certified Hawaiian birth certificate, he's not a natural born American.

This is incorrect, as I've tried to show in several posts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2036156/posts?page=89#89

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2036156/posts?page=94#94

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2036156/posts?page=103#103

Somebody needs to tell the Israel Insider guy that Obama need not have been born in Hawaii in order to be natural-born American citizen. The fake-versus-genuine birth certificate issue is separate from the natural-born citizen issue.

[xkaydet65]

Do you really think the haloed one would run knowing his effort could be destoyed in one instant if proof existed that he was not naturally born? Do you believe the Dems would allow him to do this knowing thattheir whole effort to capture power would collapse if such a fact were proven?And while we may be able to do more than one thing at a time the drive bys can’t, and if these questions are definitively disproved, belief in the next round of questions will decrease exponentially, no matter their importance or veracity.

[MarkT]

Someone born in Hawaii who has a birthdate on or very near Osama’s should request a copy of his. Then compare what the state sends with what purports to be Osama’s on the web. Should be identical form - obviously, name, gender parents may and will differ - but the form should be the same.

[Roccus]

There’s one thing for damn sure. McCain will never ask about it.

And yet McCain is the man who would have us believe that he would "........ solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

[DCPatriot]

If inddeed he’s not born here, wouldn’t this place him...in terms of qualification..on the same level as Arnold Schwarzenegger?

[Bahbah]

has anyone considered litigating the issue of whether he can be on a state’s presidential ballot?

If he doesn't produce this thing, I expect someone is sure to do so.

[smoothsailing]

[Diogenesis]

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[AmericaUnited]

why does Obama’s in the lower lefthand corner say OHBM 1.1 while the “real” other one say OHSM 1.1?

The known real certificates use OHBM = OFFICE OF HEALTH STATUS MONITORING. This is the department that processes the requests for bitth certificates.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf

STATE OF HAWAII, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
OFFICE OF HEALTH STATUS MONITORING
REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPY OF BIRTH RECORD

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

“Last but not least: What are the reverse purple lettering past the last entry line on the lower middle right? What do they mean, and why are they there? “
It reads, “XXX-6 2007.”
I can’t make out the month. Hold down your Control key and scroll wheel in.

[AmericaUnited]

The problem is that you think this is all about whether he was a natual born citizen and it is not. It appears that there is some type of deceit/fraud be perpetrated. Nixon was bought down by the coverup, not the crime. Maybe his real name was Barry Dunham? If that’s the case it is important that he has lied/covereup.

[devere]

“If inddeed he’s not born here, wouldn’t this place him...in terms of qualification..on the same level as Arnold Schwarzenegger?”

Worse.
Arnold entered the USA legally, and is a naturalized citizen.
If Barack wasn’t born here, and was never naturalized, he’s an illegal alien!

[BIGLOOK]

Know what bothers me about all this brouhaha about Obama's Birth Certificate, Dave? As stated above, the whole thing can be cleared up in a week (probably less) for $10 and a Forever Stamp. That's all it'd take.....instead there's forgery and a BS story fueling the fire over natural born citizenship status.

There's no sensitive information in a Birth Certificate. Obama has nothing to lose by providing proof.

[Neville72]

“It is time for the Republicans to demand to see Obama’s birth certificate showing the embossed seal and signature.”

Shhhh. Not until after he’s officially nominated.

[plangent]

Also, Look at the Decosta version (above) for her birth in 1930. The certificate says “STATE” of Hawaii. NOT!

Does the registrar not provide ACTUAL certified copies, or just ginned up versions on current blank stock, purporting to be the original???

Lots of stink here!

[21twelve]

Well of course it isn't valid. The certificate number is blacked out. What? They want to protect the person's identity!? (Actually, you never know. You make up a number and up pops Mrs. Ohawari saying SHE’s number 1239876432!)

Regardless, it isn't valid as per the clear and BOLD statement at the bottom:

“Any Alterations Invalidate this Certificate”

[Red Steel]

why does Obama’s in the lower lefthand corner say OHBM 1.1 while the “real” other one say OHSM 1.1?

Check out the "official Obama site" and KOS site to see if their Obama BC says the same. I've got a copy of Obama's BC and it has " OHSM 1.1"

Someone may trying to dirty up the waters.

[littlehouse36]

Courage, Obama.

Courage.

 

[CHEE]

The daily unit report required by the U.S. Army used the term Negroid as a race in 1961. I signed off on many as 1st Sgt.