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As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount
Israel Insider ^ | June 28, 2008 | June 28, 2008

Posted on 06/28/2008 1:19:52 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Charles Martel
Same official revision number

But the agency tag is different. Obama's official is OHBM 1.1 and the other's (Daily KOS, know valid) are OHSM 1.1

81 posted on 06/28/2008 3:06:23 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: SERKIT
This HAS to be a certified COPY of his 1961 birth certificate, so

Well of course. No one really thought it was the cute one with the ink foot prints.

82 posted on 06/28/2008 3:07:28 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Cobra64
Seriously? As noted late in the article, it's the Daily Kos lefty blog, created and perpetuated by one Markos Moulitsas. Thoroughly nasty pieces of work, both of 'em.
83 posted on 06/28/2008 3:08:16 PM PDT by Tenniel2 (The Stig's "African cousin" ... is Lewis Hamilton. Check it out.)
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To: Cobra64
Daily Kos - Obama's Birth Certificate. It is a radical leftist site dedicated to the destruction of the United States of America.
84 posted on 06/28/2008 3:08:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Although registering to vote these days does not require a birth certif
(or any other evidence of citizenship) ...
add to the list of activities that DO REQUIRE producing
an embossed original or certified copy:

qualifying to receive Medicare and/or SS;

playing in any organized youth sports league (hereabouts).


85 posted on 06/28/2008 3:09:28 PM PDT by Eleutherios
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To: Paine in the Neck

read later


86 posted on 06/28/2008 3:10:58 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: P8riot
Unless he wasn't born with a Muslim name.

His name in Hawaii was Barry Dunham. Don't know what name he used while he attended Punahou School, while he lived with his maternal grandparents. The school's year book could be enlightening.
87 posted on 06/28/2008 3:12:48 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Red Steel
This is a google search of birth certificate obama. This story is steadily making its way up the info food chain.
88 posted on 06/28/2008 3:12:58 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: fso301

Yes, but this is a recent reproduction ostensibly provided by the HI Gov’t. The note in the lower left corner says “OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) LASER” which would suggest this copy is no older than seven years. I think the embossed seal would last at least that long.


89 posted on 06/28/2008 3:14:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Red Steel
This is a google search of birth certificate obama. This story is steadily making its way up the info food chain.

This link gives the growing list of posts at free republic on obama's birth certificate.
90 posted on 06/28/2008 3:19:04 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: WellyP

Confirming that a major party’s candidate for POTUS meets the Constitutional requirements for that office is “game playing” and “has no place in presidential politics”?

You’re right. Let’s just chuck that whole archaic concept of a Constitution out the window and wing it from here forward. That should be a lot of fun. Who needs stinkin’ rules?


91 posted on 06/28/2008 3:19:33 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: AmericaUnited

The OHSM Bonana song:

Obama!

Obama, Husama bo bama Bonana fanna fo Fama

Fee fy yo Mama, Obama!


92 posted on 06/28/2008 3:20:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Grampa Dave

Notice that the print border hatchwork is totally different in patern and density.
As well, the typeset is much more bold on the known legitimate copy as opposed to Obie’s very questionable facsimile.
The folds are so distinct as is the official stamp and certification,ertificare totally missing on Obie’s alleged Birth Certificate.
Obie, it’s only $10.00, buy yourself an actual certified copy of your Birth Certificate! Obie, I DARE YOU! Are You are real U.S. Citizen or again have We caught You in a major Fraudulent Lie?? Easy to Answer, Obie, IF you are telling the Truth! Hard to answer, Obie, if You are lieing as it seems usual!!!!!!!!


93 posted on 06/28/2008 3:20:31 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: Red Steel; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

94 posted on 06/28/2008 3:22:39 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: devere
... he’s an illegal alien.

No biggie. McCain will grant him amnesty and then he can run legally in '12.

95 posted on 06/28/2008 3:22:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Red Steel
When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.

That's a crazy statement to make.

First: It is clear to the lady that many have very carefully looked the document over. Why? Because she has been getting so many emails and contacts about it.

I don't know the lady's regular speech pattern, but I do know officials speaking officially on hot issues do NOT normally come across so informally.

But, imo there may be some verbal cues here in this statement.

  1. Us versus youse all. She uses "we", "us", "our registrar" speaking for her official office, and to her respondent: "you guys". Sounds like a competition. But it isn't. Dear Janice Okubo, we are all on the same side! This is just business, not your team versus our team. You area civil servant, remember? You represent us, you act as our agent in fulfilling the duties of your offfice.

  2. She speaks for her office in the plural. Yet she pushes off the unbelievable discovery of an official seal on the image to a singular "he" -- "he thought he could". Not "we", not even "I though I could".

  3. The "he" is unnamed. He is identified as "he, our registrar"

My read -- she's obfuscating. She's scared. Something is really awry with these records.
96 posted on 06/28/2008 3:26:29 PM PDT by bvw
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Yes, but this is a recent reproduction ostensibly provided by the HI Gov’t. The note in the lower left corner says “OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) LASER” which would suggest this copy is no older than seven years. I think the embossed seal would last at least that long.

It's hard for me to say but knowing that a steam iron can smooth out wrinkles and creases in paper, It's within the realm of possibility that had the paper been exposed to high humidity such as from a room dehumidifier or humid summer Chicago days with the windows open and then pressed flat under a stack of papers or in a file, the seal and creases may have ironed themselves out. I'm not saying that's likely, just possible and therefore, we still need to be careful

97 posted on 06/28/2008 3:28:48 PM PDT by fso301
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To: xkaydet65

I understand your alarm, if he has tried to do so, and gotten so far it really shakes things to the core, eh?


98 posted on 06/28/2008 3:30:18 PM PDT by bvw
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To: SERKIT
The document published on the Daily Kos is not a copy of Obama's birth certificate. It doesn't claim to be. Instead, it's a "certificate of live birth," which is a separate, secondary document that can be issued by the state at any time, even years or decades, after the birth.

All that a certificate of live birth does is attest that the infant was born, implying that somewhere in the state archives there's another document -- namely, the original birth certificate -- that contains all of the pertinent information (including, among other things, the marital status of the parents, and possibly their religion(s); the name and signature of the physician who attended the birth; the name and signature of at least one witness (usually an attending nurse); the name and address of the hospital where the birth occurred; a statement as to whether the infant's father was, at the time of the birth, an actively serving member of the U.S. Armed Forces; and, not least of all, a rubber-stamped imprint of the infant's right foot).

So, one more time: A certificate of live birth is NOT the same as a birth certificate, and the fact that the certificate of live birth was issued in 2007 on a laser-printer form tells us absolutely nothing other than that the real birth certificate, which apparently no one has seen, is (perhaps) still out there.

99 posted on 06/28/2008 3:30:18 PM PDT by Tenniel2 (The Stig's "African cousin" ... is Lewis Hamilton. Check it out.)
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To: fso301
It's within the realm of possibility that had the paper been exposed to high humidity such as from a room dehumidifier or humid summer Chicago days with the windows open and then pressed flat under a stack of papers or in a file, the seal and creases may have ironed themselves out.

I have LOTS of papers and have lived in Chicago since '94. This is not possible.
100 posted on 06/28/2008 3:30:38 PM PDT by aruanan
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