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Barack Obama May Recruit Defence Chief Robert Gates
Timesonline ^ | 06.29.2008 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 06/28/2008 5:45:12 PM PDT by Coffee200am

In defiance of traditional party labels, Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, may ask the defence secretary of President George W Bush to stay on if he wins the White House.

Obama’s top foreign policy and national security advisers are pressing the case for keeping Robert Gates at the Pentagon after he won widespread praise for his performance. The move would be in keeping with Obama’s desire to appoint a cabinet of all the talents.

After appealing for unity with former rival Hillary Clinton and her supporters and big donors last week, Obama, 46, is turning his attention to wooing Republicans and independent voters who may be concerned that he lacks the experience to be trusted with America’s defence.

Richard Danzig, an adviser to Obama on national security and a former navy secretary, said: “My personal position is Gates is a very good secretary of defence and would be an even better one in an Obama administration.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blueturban; bo; bobgates; danzig; defence; democrat; democrats; obama; secdef

1 posted on 06/28/2008 5:45:13 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: Coffee200am

And Gates may tell the juvenile Senator to grow-up before asking such things of adults.


2 posted on 06/28/2008 5:49:18 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Coffee200am

Ain’t a dime’s worth of difference between the Demopublicans and Republicrats. The same revolving door power elite rules both parties.


3 posted on 06/28/2008 5:49:20 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Coffee200am

I didn’t know Gates supports American surrender in Iraq.


4 posted on 06/28/2008 5:49:31 PM PDT by Saint Reagan
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To: All

Getting serious now, what does Obama know about defending our country and/or foreign policy.

My latest Obama link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037801/posts?page=6#6


5 posted on 06/28/2008 5:49:31 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Good work.


6 posted on 06/28/2008 5:50:30 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Saint Reagan

Obama is not going to leave Iraq. I wish he would but he won’t. He is already hedging. As I said, the differences between the two major parties are paper thin, rhetoric for the sheeple to the contrary.


7 posted on 06/28/2008 5:52:22 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Coffee200am

Despite what the “media” would like us to believe, this wouldn’t be “historic.” Slick Willie already did this with Bill Cohen.


8 posted on 06/28/2008 5:54:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: Captain Kirk

*leave Iraq*

You might want to join the Code Pinkos,that is their No. 1 goal.
Also All the other various Marxist organizations are working for the same.
There are many Marxist organizations working for your goal.


9 posted on 06/28/2008 5:58:37 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I find it very disturbing that this empty nothing without resume presumes to be selecting folks upon whom my future and the future of my children and grand children rests.

I feel that things are going to get very ugly.


10 posted on 06/28/2008 6:03:21 PM PDT by threeoeight
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To: threeoeight

I agree with you totally. I’ll also bet a dollar to a donut that BO will appoint a “gay” man or woman to the job as Secretary of Defense. That’s our future.


11 posted on 06/28/2008 6:05:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: SoCalPol

Marxist organizations? Many libertarians and conservatives are antiwar. Heck, back in the late 1990s most people on this site were antiwar when it came to Clinton’s war in Kosovo. On the other hand, many leftists are pro-war when the rubber hits the road. Mark my works. As the Gates overture indicates, Obama will keep us involved in the Iraq war (now longer than WWII!) when he takes office. Ain’t a dime’s worth of difference between the two major parties. Both believe in policing the world.


12 posted on 06/28/2008 6:07:02 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Coffee200am

McCain beat him to this by months.


13 posted on 06/28/2008 6:11:12 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Captain Kirk
That tends to be the difference between the left and the right Captain. The left is for any war that is not in America's interest but makes them feel good. That is why the left was for Kosovo but against Iraq. The right tends to be ok with wars that advance American interests like Iraq but not feel good wars like Kosovo. The Paleos like Pat Buchanan and the faaaarrrr Right Lew Rockwell types have opposed Iraq but I haven't seen that much here.
14 posted on 06/28/2008 6:23:54 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Saint Reagan
This is a hopeful sign for us. If Obama wants Secretary Gates to stay on, it's a sign that his faction doesn't have anyone with military and political experience who wants the post of Secretary of Defense. Under Obama, who has a naive point of view towards international terrorism and rogue states, any such job would be a career ender for competent people. Obama’s term would be as disastrous as Carter for both the United States and the Democratic Party.

How did those Democrats paint themselves into this corner? Oh, yeah. Hillary. Obama was Not Hillary.

15 posted on 06/28/2008 6:27:43 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: Captain Kirk

re Kosovo, Clintoon was on the wrong side, the side we are fighting in Afgan & Iraq.

My relatives who have served tours in the war and still there understand why we are there.

The largest number of military in the U.S. are based in San Diego. Those I speak with understand why we are there.


16 posted on 06/28/2008 6:36:07 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Captain Kirk

This Liberal POS for gay marriage, pro drugs,
strange three marriages, ACLU employee is all yours

Bob Barr while at USC in 1967 joined the Young Democrats of America, and rallied against the Vietnam War.

His parents disapproved, and threatened to cut off financial support if he continued his “flaming liberal” activities

On the Colbert Report on June 4, 2008, Barr confirmed that he now supports ending marijuana prohibition, as well as the War on Drugs

At the 2008 Libertarian National Convention, he apologized for the part of the Defense of Marriage Act which prevents the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages ( Barr supports same sex marriage)

Barr has called for withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, leaving no permanent military bases. A press release from Barr’s presidential campaign stated: “The next president should commit to a speedy and complete withdrawal from Iraq, and tell the Iraqi people that the U.S. troops will be going home

Barr Does Not support the Patriot Act which has kept us from further attacks since 9/11

Barr has been a vocal opponent of President George W. Bush’s claim of authorization to wiretap transnational phone calls without individual judicial license. (Another favorite of the left.)

More recently, Barr has become a prominent member of the American Civil Liberties Union, sometimes doing paid consulting on privacy issues.

Barr had acquiesced to his then-wife having an abortion in 1983. He had also invoked a legal privilege during his 1985 divorce proceeding so he could refuse to answer questions on whether he’d cheated on his second wife with the woman who is now his third.”


17 posted on 06/28/2008 6:39:18 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: SoCalPol

I think we have a fundamentally different view of the role of government. I believe that government, both in the bedroom and with the tax collector, is the problem not the solution. Hence, I can never vote for hyper-statist, paternalist, welfarist like McCain and favor Barr. I suspect we cannot resolve this difference because you are apparently not as bothered by McCain’s big government views as I am. We have two different philosophies of government.


18 posted on 06/28/2008 6:46:10 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

“Obama is not going to leave Iraq. I wish he would but he won’t.”

What conservative is against the Iraq war? And its not really about a war with Iraq. Its a war about freedom and terrorism.


19 posted on 06/28/2008 6:50:40 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Despite what the “media” would like us to believe, this wouldn’t be “historic.” Slick Willie already did this with Bill Cohen.

IIRC, Cohen replaced the previous DefSec, as Clinton had botched that one so badly, and needed a fall guy.

That said, this isn't historic, previous administrations have kept folks from the prior administrations in cabinet positions including a secretary of war.

Bush did it most recently with Mineta (though he was moved from commerce to transportation.)

I doubt Gates would want to work under an Obama administration, at the end of the day, they would just want you to be the republican fall guy that they can blame.

20 posted on 06/28/2008 6:51:40 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Captain Kirk

Bob Barr is against the US capturing known terrorist cell phone conversations between terrorist foreign nationals and terrorist foreign nationals. Are you?


21 posted on 06/28/2008 6:52:41 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Captain Kirk

If the IslamOfascists take over there will be no government


22 posted on 06/28/2008 6:54:24 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Coffee200am
"Ain’t a dime’s worth of difference between the Demopublicans and Republicrats. The same revolving door power elite rules both parties."

Yup... Obama's judges would have rendered the same verdict on the 2nd Amendment as Alito, Scalia and the Republican appointments just did.

You just go ahead and vote for the Dems by NOT voting for McCain (NO, I do NOT like the him that much) . We LOSE ANYTHING in the Constitution by teaching another lesson... Mark my words.... We WILL NOT get them back.

You doggone well better think about that.

23 posted on 06/28/2008 6:58:57 PM PDT by drc43 (NO Drilling for prosperity!!....Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Coffee200am

It’s not surprising, it’s hard to find any democrats these days who would be any good at the job.

Clinton tried a Democrat, and he screwed up so bad Clinton had to replace him with a Republican. Not much of one though.


24 posted on 06/28/2008 7:07:35 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Coffee200am

More likely Obama will choose Barney Frank to be in his cabinet.


25 posted on 06/28/2008 7:25:27 PM PDT by Carley
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To: patriot08

Thank you patriot08.


26 posted on 06/28/2008 7:27:34 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Coffee200am

He certainly needs someone who has a clue.


27 posted on 06/28/2008 7:43:06 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Saint Reagan
I didn’t know Gates supports American surrender in Iraq.

AFAIK, he doesn't. But he does support not preparing for wars with more sophisticated enemies, like the ChiComs or the Russians. He's said as much himself, when he cashiered the Chief of Staff of the Air Force and the Secretary of the Air Force.

28 posted on 06/28/2008 8:15:50 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: drc43
You just go ahead and vote for the Dems by NOT voting for McCain (NO, I do NOT like the him that much) . We LOSE ANYTHING in the Constitution by teaching another lesson... Mark my words.... We WILL NOT get them back.

McCain is unlikely to appoint such strict constructionist judges either. He wouldn't appoint a Ginzberg, but he might very well appoint a Stevens (Ford), Souter (Bush I), or even a Kennedy (Reagan) who while he voted for the Constitution in Heller, voted for Child Rapists, using a wacko standard for "cruel and unusual", and full Constitutional rights for terrorists.

29 posted on 06/28/2008 8:32:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
"McCain is unlikely to appoint such strict constructionist judges either. "

Possibly..tho he did promise to do so a couple of weeks back.

OTH, we could teach 'em another lesson and count on Barack to appoint the judges we like...

30 posted on 06/28/2008 8:45:03 PM PDT by drc43 (NO Drilling for prosperity!!....Nancy Pelosi)
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To: drc43
Obama will appoint pro-civil liberties judges who value the fourth and fifth amendments..though they will probably be bad on the second. McCain is likely to appoint authoritarian judges who probably won't even be friendly to the second amendment and property rights. I suspect that they will be even more pro-government than Alito, hence McCain's complaint that he "wore conservatism on his sleeve."

Right now, the balance is about right. The most consistently libertarian judge on the court, Kennedy, provides the crucial vote in favor of second amendment rights with the conservatives while he also provides the crucial vote with the liberal justices for civil liberties.

Also, the conservative judges are young and probably will be on the court in four years. The most liberal judges on elderly so any replacements will be pretty much a wash. If there was ever a time to vote your conscience for a third party candidate, this is it.

31 posted on 06/28/2008 8:53:04 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
"Right now, the balance is about right. "

You cannot be a conservative and Constitutionalist and really believe this... 5 to 4 on the Second Amendment...

How could you possibly believe the 4 were a good balance?

This is right vs wrong....

32 posted on 06/28/2008 8:58:01 PM PDT by drc43 (NO Drilling for prosperity!!....Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Coffee200am

And Michael Moore will be Obama’s press secretary.


33 posted on 06/28/2008 10:13:16 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Coffee200am

But...but...I thought we needed change!

McCain could use this in an ad: “The nation is so safe that Obama is willing to keep the same Sec. of Defense Bush picked”.


34 posted on 06/29/2008 6:42:32 AM PDT by Kleebo151
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To: FlingWingFlyer

WJC brought on Cohen in the second admin. Gates would be staying on.

HUGE historic difference.


35 posted on 06/29/2008 6:47:57 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Coffee200am

“Bush’s third term”?


36 posted on 06/29/2008 6:51:07 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: drc43

Because the liberal four are sometimes superior to the conservative four on fourth, fifth amedment and privacy issues. The best guy on the court by far is Kennedy who is more likely than any other member to support both privacy and the second amendment.


37 posted on 06/29/2008 10:55:10 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: El Gato

A Justice Kennedy is better than a Justice Ginsburg. So if we replace Stevens and Ginsburg with two Kennedys, we would actually be drifting the coiurt to the right because two cultural marxists wil be replaced by two moderates.


38 posted on 06/29/2008 11:06:40 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Captain Kirk

Interesting... Thanks for your thoughts.


39 posted on 06/29/2008 12:35:39 PM PDT by drc43 (NO Drilling for prosperity!!....Nancy Pelosi)
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