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Undercover NYPD Officers Frame 4 On Drug Charges
CBS TV ^ | 6/28/08

Posted on 06/28/2008 8:16:57 PM PDT by ellery

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To: GLDNGUN
Oh, give me a break. This is a story about crooked cops. Drugs just happen to be what they used for a false arrest. If it werent' drugs, they could have easily come up with something else if they were determined to do so.

This has everything to do with the war on drugs.

Crooked cops don't make false felony arrests of strangers for the fun of it. They make false felony arrests because they're paid to do it - that's what makes them crooked. And what other criminal enterprise has so many millions of dollars at stake to buy cops in as partners?

Other than the war on drugs there are no easy felonies to plant. Accuse someone of murder, you need a body. Of grand theft, you need goods. Of drug possession? You need one untraceable crumb that disappears between two fingers and can be planted on anyone.

Like he said. Another WOD victory.

21 posted on 06/28/2008 10:54:37 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: ellery

Reference bump!


22 posted on 06/28/2008 11:04:32 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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To: CGTRWK

Exactly. It’s why I’ve long come to the conclusion that all laws against mere possession must be stricken off the books.

With felonies like murder, etc it also helps to have motive, eyewitnesses, other forms of trace evidence, perhaps a criminal record to indicate you might be a good suspect...

I’d also add that the entire approach of a Prohibition mindset and militarizing police has come to mean more cavalier approaches to framing up innocent men, whether out of pure evil or a belief that the suspect is ultimately guilty of whatever.

Police can gun down a very old lady in Atlanta and THEN PLANT DRUGS to protect themselves because of the drug war. It’s us against them, in their mind and increasingly in ours. It’s the Drug War that has dogs sniffing around public schools and where kids are lined up against halls while cops have guns drawn and running an Iraq-style roundup(but with less humanity and professionalism than our troops)

Only her age saved that old lady’s public character, if a 30 year old man is shot down by crooked or mistaken cops, his reputation will be smeared after his death because all it takes is to drop a baggie of weed somewhere and he becomes Al Capone in the public’s mind.


23 posted on 06/28/2008 11:20:00 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: ellery

I have never had a bad experience with the NYPD. This probably has everything to do with being white and not poor. I feel that I can reasonably expect not to have any unpleasant interactions with them if I continue to mind my own business. A man who is black or Latino and lives in a poor neighborhood would never have the same confidence, no matter how blameless his life. The police have quotas. I am sure that NYC is like any other American city in this regard.


24 posted on 06/29/2008 12:03:53 AM PDT by buck jarret
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To: ellery
“The cops are supposed to help us,”

First mistake is to believe that.

25 posted on 06/29/2008 12:06:26 AM PDT by JSteff (This election is about the 3 to 5 supreme's who will retire in the next 8 years, vote accordingly.)
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To: Skywalk

Yes, but I think heroin, and other drugs of that caliber, should always be illegal. That it is such a persecuted substance must keep people from trying it, even if it also causes a lot of crime. In the end, I feel that when something is that destructive and poisonous, mere possession of it should be a big deal for the deterrant effect.


26 posted on 06/29/2008 12:07:25 AM PDT by buck jarret
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To: trumandogz
“will have a Very Interesting life behind bars”

They will never make it there. They are part of the elite and the power club.

Note that even now the article says the cops are only on “modified duty.” No charges against them.

Right.

27 posted on 06/29/2008 12:11:52 AM PDT by JSteff (This election is about the 3 to 5 supreme's who will retire in the next 8 years, vote accordingly.)
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To: cherry
I think there are a lot of cops out there that really try to be honest, fair, decent, moral, and professional....trouble is, I am not sure they are in the majority....

They aren't. Judges are the same in the state of Washington. Can't say I've encountered even one who isn't corrupt.

28 posted on 06/29/2008 4:24:24 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: ellery

Any cop who tries to put an innocent person in jail must be given the same penalty that the innocent person would have suffered.


29 posted on 06/29/2008 4:58:35 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: ellery
I had something similar happen to four (white) friends back in the day. They spent a weekend in NYC jail for no reason.

They were just standing outside in a bad neighborhood. NYPD cops rolled up and were standing around for hours trying to decide what crime to charge them with. One of the cops was violent and kicked my friend while he was handcuffed on the ground.

The cops settled on “auto stripping” after they noticed a vandalized car close by. Luckily, the owner of the car gave a statement and the case was dismissed instantly. Of course, there were no videos so the cops walked scott free.

Now, imagine if the owner was away or gone and couldn't testify? The car looked abandoned and the cops were surely betting on that.

30 posted on 06/29/2008 6:17:32 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: wastedyears

I lived and worked in NYC for 57 years. I don’t think I’d had three dozen interactions of any sort with the police in my entire time there. Now, maybe things have changed drastically in the six years since I left, but the NYPD was a pretty good force then. There always were, are now and will be bad cops. When you have a force of 35-40K they will be in the mix. Too bad you didn’t know the pre-Knapp Commission NYPD. You might appreciate just how professional the force is as a whole.


31 posted on 06/29/2008 6:21:54 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: cherry

As I said above, in a force of 35-40K bad apples get through. If 1/1000th are bad, that’s 35 cops...one story every ten days for a year. That would make the force appear terrible, but it would be far, far from a majority.
IMO, whenever you have group of cops doing wrong as a group, the problem lies with the command.


32 posted on 06/29/2008 6:31:26 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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33 posted on 06/29/2008 10:11:28 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: ellery

If they really framed them, as this story suggest, I can’t believe they are still on the force, they should be in prison.


34 posted on 06/29/2008 10:13:31 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Roccus
IMO, whenever you have group of cops doing wrong as a group, the problem lies with the command.

What a silly thing to say.

35 posted on 06/29/2008 10:15:11 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: trumandogz
They will be in protective custody with the child molesters .
36 posted on 06/29/2008 10:27:27 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Lloyd227
What makes you think so? These guys will walk with a slap on the wrist and they'll move on to some small town police force and just get on with their lives. Show me the last time you saw an LEO go behind bars for this?

I'd put major cash on them never seeing a day in jail, or even being prosecuted.

This next line tells the whole story, disgusting as it is... "The NYPD is investigating the officers involved in this incident. Two of the officers are reportedly on modified duty."

Modified Duty? and only two of them? Four officers swore to the buy that never happened. Four officers should be behind bars with a girlfriend named Bubba.

Yup. What this tells you is that the entire organization is irredeemably rotten to the core.

The sad thing is that you'll find plenty of folks here who will reflexively defend these scum with badges.

37 posted on 06/29/2008 11:43:55 AM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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To: Roccus
If 1/1000th are bad, that’s 35 cops...one story every ten days for a year.

I don't buy those paricular statistics. That would be a 100% turnover of the corrupt cops every year. I think the discovery rate is much lower than 100% and the lifetime of a corrupt operator before discovery is much longer than one year.

38 posted on 06/29/2008 3:04:17 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: ellery

Whoops!

Oh well, as long as we are invested in having the drug war we have to expect things like this.


39 posted on 06/29/2008 3:49:55 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: Marie2

There are innocents in prison?

Not from what I’ve read around here. Especially if they are accused of an awful crime like child molestation. Them, around here (and to be fair just about everywhere in society) they are not only guilty as hell but they should basically be executed by the prison inmates upon arrival. Before or after the trial, it doesn’t really make a difference.

Sometimes to satisfy bloodlust you have to break a few eggs.


40 posted on 06/29/2008 3:52:17 PM PDT by Nate505
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