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Beach pizza shop employee fatally shoots robber, police say
The Virginian-Pilot ^
| June 29, 2008
| Patrick Wilson
Posted on 06/29/2008 2:33:18 AM PDT by csvset
VIRGINIA BEACH
An employee of a Virginia Beach pizza restaurant shot and killed a masked robber who had come in the back of the shop to rob it Saturday night, police said.
The shooting happened about 10:08 p.m. at Dominick's Pizza & Pasta, in the Timberlake Shopping Center in the 4200 block of Holland Road.
Employees had opened the back door to let a breeze come in, and the robber came in the door to the kitchen and pointed a gun at them, said Sgt. Rene Ball of Virginia Beach police.
An employee then shot and killed the robber, she said. No one else was shot.
Detectives and forensic analysts are on the scene this morning to interview store employees and investigate. There was apparently one customer in the restaurant, Ball said.
The name of the man killed was not immediately released.
Patrick Wilson, (757) 446-2957, patrick.wilson@pilotonline.com
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; selfdefense; virginiabeach
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Bang. One less scumbag.
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posted on
06/29/2008 2:33:19 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: csvset
The kind of gun control we can all admire.
2
posted on
06/29/2008 2:35:46 AM PDT
by
Ronin
(Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
To: Ronin
Hopefully, it is the kind to which Washington, D.C. can look forward. Yea!!!
To: csvset
It seems to be cyclic.
Some large pizza chains dont allow guns (Pizza Hut for one), not in the stores and not with the drivers. Bad guys learn that pizza shops and drivers are easy marks - until they try it at the smaller operations. A couple robberies with the bad guy ending up dead and the robberies stop until a new crop of bad guys start.
4
posted on
06/29/2008 3:17:13 AM PDT
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
To: csvset
How stupid to be killed trying to stick up a pizza joint :-(
He stepped into harms way... point a gun at someone and you are the one totally responsible for what happens to you.
This is the reason why the 2nd amendment is so important...
The founding fathers in their wisdom knew it was the God-given right of all people to be able to defend themselves.
5
posted on
06/29/2008 3:18:43 AM PDT
by
Bobalu
(What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
To: csvset
I pass that business many times a week, and they’ll soon be receiving my lunch order and praise.
6
posted on
06/29/2008 3:22:24 AM PDT
by
MaxMax
(I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
To: csvset
7
posted on
06/29/2008 3:27:43 AM PDT
by
JoeGar
To: csvset
It will be interesting to see if the employee is reprimanded, suspended or fired.
8
posted on
06/29/2008 3:27:47 AM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: csvset
Kinda gives, “what would you like on your tombstone” a whole other meaning.
9
posted on
06/29/2008 3:30:10 AM PDT
by
BigCinBigD
(")
To: csvset
I hope the victims family doesn’t sue the store or employee.
10
posted on
06/29/2008 3:34:01 AM PDT
by
NoLibZone
(When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
To: csvset
One large deep dish, extra lead please.
11
posted on
06/29/2008 3:43:07 AM PDT
by
NavVet
( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
To: MaxMax
Cool....do business w them....you know it is a safe place to eat
12
posted on
06/29/2008 4:01:00 AM PDT
by
UCFRoadWarrior
(John McCain's three favorite words: Made In China)
To: BigCinBigD
“Kinda gives, ‘what would you like on your tombstone’ a whole other meaning.”
LOL! After reading that comment, I don’t need any coffee this morning. And if I had been drinking coffee, I would have showered my keyboard....
13
posted on
06/29/2008 4:25:30 AM PDT
by
Mr.Smorch
(Baraq is the Arabic name of the winged horse tchhat took mohammed to paradise from the DomeoftheRock)
To: csvset
One of the first rules of security by any franchise operation is: Don’t unnecessarily open the back door, especially for ventilation. It’s an open invite for a burglar.
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posted on
06/29/2008 4:27:10 AM PDT
by
toddlintown
(Morons; all of 'em.)
To: csvset
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posted on
06/29/2008 4:32:35 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
To: NoLibZone
That doesn’t work so well nowadays as it used to before most of the states got Concealed Carry.
16
posted on
06/29/2008 4:46:38 AM PDT
by
arthurus
To: csvset
Pizza Shop Emploiyee Saves State
Lifetime costs of Career Democrat.
17
posted on
06/29/2008 4:50:22 AM PDT
by
DGHoodini
(Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
To: DGHoodini
While not all Democrats are criminals
All Criminals are Democrats.
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posted on
06/29/2008 4:53:44 AM PDT
by
DGHoodini
(Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
To: NoLibZone
I hope the victims family doesnt sue the store or employee.
If the victims family comes forward , I’d counter sue for mental anguish and anything else a good attorney could dream up.
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posted on
06/29/2008 4:57:05 AM PDT
by
chainsaw
( No racist Muslims in the WH)
To: csvset
Good news to start my Sunday morning.
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posted on
06/29/2008 5:02:57 AM PDT
by
Bulldawg Fan
(Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
To: BigCinBigD
Shoulda had one of these...
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posted on
06/29/2008 5:24:52 AM PDT
by
Tainan
(Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
To: NoLibZone
The “victims” all went home that night thanks to a brave citizen who was armed. The “scumbag’s” family will probably try. I’d love to be the judge hearing that case. I’d chase the scumbag lawyer out of court with my own gun. F ‘em.
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posted on
06/29/2008 5:25:57 AM PDT
by
Feckless
(En Temps)
To: csvset
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posted on
06/29/2008 5:37:45 AM PDT
by
t1b8zs
To: toddlintown
They also don't allow drivers to protect them selves which is why they are an easy hit......
This guys a private enteprenaure and won!
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posted on
06/29/2008 5:42:15 AM PDT
by
t1b8zs
To: toddlintown
And rule two is, be armed, as is your God given right that you go home alive, and dispatch rule number 1 violator.
Then get back to work. There are pizzas to be sold.
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posted on
06/29/2008 5:51:13 AM PDT
by
healy61
To: toddlintown
“One of the first rules of security by any franchise operation is: Dont unnecessarily open the back door, especially for ventilation. Its an open invite for a burglar.”
— —
Seems like this would be a good way to set bait and periodically clean up the neighborhood.
26
posted on
06/29/2008 6:11:43 AM PDT
by
HighWheeler
(The higher the concentration of libs, the bigger the tragedy that follows.)
To: DaveLoneRanger
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posted on
06/29/2008 6:27:37 AM PDT
by
Virginia Ridgerunner
("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
To: HighWheeler
I was going to post that but didnt want to get flamed.....
Great minds think alike
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posted on
06/29/2008 6:35:01 AM PDT
by
t1b8zs
To: csvset
“Bang. One less scumbag.”
And very likely, one less vote for Obama.
To: Man50D
It will be interesting to see if the employee is reprimanded, suspended or fired.Hopefully not but then again "reprimanded", "suspended" or "fired" beats "dead" any day of the week.
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posted on
06/29/2008 8:51:26 AM PDT
by
Drew68
To: toddlintown
In this case it had a flypaper effect.
To: csvset
In the good old days the very last place to hold up was a pizza parlor. The mob was pretty unforgiving.
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posted on
06/29/2008 8:58:38 AM PDT
by
ladyjane
To: ladyjane
And you would know this because .......? Or shouldn’t I ask?
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posted on
06/29/2008 9:51:52 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
(Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
To: csvset; All
A little bit of additional information on this from another source:
Police Beach pizza parlor worker kills would-be robber TOP STORIES WVEC.com News for Hampton Roads, Virginia
(edit)
Workers at Dominick's Pizza and Pasta in the Timberlake Shopping Center on Holland Road told 13News a masked man came in through a back entrance brandishing a gun and demanding cash. According to employees, a worker opened the safe and took out a loaded revolver instead of money.
The worker reportedly returned to where the alleged thief was and opened fire.
Police say the shooting happened around 10:00 p.m. Saturday, and that workers called 911 at 10:08.
By the time officers arrived the masked man was already dead.
Police have not identified the suspect, and have not said whether charges will be filed against the employee.
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posted on
06/29/2008 10:08:38 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: BigCinBigD
To: Stoat
According to employees, a worker opened the safe and took out a loaded revolver instead of money.
I’d say on FR 9/10 posts make fun of revolvers. Sounds like it performed to perfection in this case.
To: Stoat
and have not said whether charges will be filed against the employee.
WTF? How could this even be in the conversation?
To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Id say on FR 9/10 posts make fun of revolvers. Sounds like it performed to perfection in this case. I love revolvers. In fact, I'm going to the range to practice with my .357 today.
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posted on
06/29/2008 10:20:58 AM PDT
by
SIDENET
(Hubba Hubba...)
To: SIDENET
Me too - had my .357 25+ years and if feels like an old friend.
To: csvset
Years ago a friend of mine shot a robber in the face who came into the back door of the biz at closing time. The perp lived, served his time and now my friend has to look over his shoulder.
To: Rebelbase
What did your friend have in his hand at that time?
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posted on
06/29/2008 1:04:37 PM PDT
by
wastedyears
(Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
To: NoLibZone
“I hope the victims family doesnt sue the store or employee”
What ‘victim’? All I see here are the laws of natural selection extracting worthless DNA from the gene pool. I think prosecutors and ambulance chasers are going to have a much more difficult time filing such a suit.
No government has a monopoly on perpetuity. The 2nd is THE line we all man.
the Deets
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posted on
06/29/2008 3:06:58 PM PDT
by
ebiskit
(South Park Republican)
To: toddlintown
“Dont unnecessarily open the back door, especially for ventilation”
Have you ever worked in bakery before? In addition, the were close to closing where trips in and out the back door were probably necessary for closing procedures. I think the owner should be given a tax-break for relieving the tax-payer of a future judicial/penal burden. Moreover, it shows the ultimate respect for his crew by giving them the means to protect themselves. I’ll bet they do a whole lot more bidness now.
No government has a monopoly on perpetuity. The 2nd is THE line we all man.
the Deets
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posted on
06/29/2008 3:16:38 PM PDT
by
ebiskit
(South Park Republican)
To: B4Ranch
Yes, I *know* this! LOL
Anyody who grew up in the town where there was a ‘mob’ presence knows that the very last place you would rob was a place run by the boys. If the management didn’t ventilate you there were always a couple of boys having dinner in the dining room who would.
Growing up the safest place in town was the area near the pizza parlor and bowling alley. Also, the area around where the boys and their families lived.
A few years ago I was flying into Las Vegas, sitting next to a guy and his adorable Asian wife (who had held his panama hat in her lap for the entire trip.) We never talked for the entire trip until we had to circle Las Vegas for an hour. It turned out he was from Providence, RI, home of the Raymond Patriaca family - the *alledged* head of the mob.It was clear to me from talking with him that he had connections so I mentioned 3 or 4 names of our local guys. He looked surprised and he elbowed his wife and said, “Hey, she knows the boyz!” He was right. That’s all I’m going to say.
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posted on
06/29/2008 7:56:52 PM PDT
by
ladyjane
To: BigCinBigD
What would you like on your Tombstone? LOL!
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posted on
06/29/2008 10:12:30 PM PDT
by
iowamark
To: ladyjane
I was expecting you to say that when you were a kid you worked in the pizza joint. Yes, every city has their elected leaders and they closely work with the unelected leaders.
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posted on
06/30/2008 7:56:20 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
(Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
To: ebiskit
“Have you ever worked in bakery before?”
Back in another life, I managed a pizza joint. Back door security was always enforced.
I don’t make the franchise rules. Go argue with every franchisor.
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posted on
06/30/2008 12:48:52 PM PDT
by
toddlintown
(Morons; all of 'em.)
To: toddlintown; All
Just being a bit contrarian... However, I was making the point from a sole-proprietor POV as I believe that particular business happens to be. In addition, they were closing the store at the time. I as well have experience in the food franchise sector and not all rules made by the home office are necessarily well thought out, efficient and ultimately sacrosanct in the eyes of many effective managers. Sometimes it is hard to fathom that some of these companies still make decent profits even ‘in-spite’ themselves and their compulsion towards PC home office dictates. If I am not mistaken, the major pizza retailers don’t allow employees proper personal defense (ie guns). I am sure you are quite aware of that policy. It is my experience, if someone wants to rob a pizza joint or rob a pizza guy, they are gonna do it one way or another.
“Back in another life, I managed a pizza joint. Back door security was always enforced.”
Bottom line is, the owner was enforcing proper back door security when released that protoplasm from this temporal plane.
Fyi... It was the actual owner of the establishment that did the much needed dispatching.
the Deets
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posted on
06/30/2008 1:40:14 PM PDT
by
ebiskit
(South Park Republican)
To: Tainan
“Leave the gun, take the cannoli.”
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posted on
06/30/2008 1:44:04 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
( This tag blank until football season.)
To: dfwgator
"MMmmm..cannoli pizza...."
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:15:07 PM PDT
by
Tainan
(Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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