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The drug war just across the border
Chicago Tribune, ^ | June 29, 2008 | Clarence Page

Posted on 06/29/2008 6:49:55 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

As if our military didn't have its hands full in Iraq and Afghanistan, the head of the Minuteman Project border security group seems to think Minutemen might make good narcotics cops.

Minuteman co-founder Jim Gilchrist suggested in recent radio interviews that the U.S. give Mexico 12 months to corral its criminal drug cartels and rising violence, particularly in border towns such as Juarez and Tijuana—or deploy the U.S. Army to do the job.

That's the Minutemen. Their remedies for the drug war next door sound simplistic, but at least they're paying attention.

While most of us north of the border have been absorbed with our presidential sweepstakes and other happenings, our southern neighbor has exploded into the full-scale drug violence previously associated with Colombia or Peru.

For now, we're not sending troops, just money. The Senate last Thursday approved a $1.6 billion, three-year package of anti-drug assistance to Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean. Known as the "Merida Initiative," it includes $400 million for military equipment and technical assistance for Mexico's anti-drug fight. The bill was passed earlier by the House and President Bush is expected to sign it.

Mexico's government cheered the bill because it waters down proposed restrictions that would have required Mexico to change the way it handles allegations of human rights abuses by its military. Mexican leaders threatened to reject the money if there were too many restrictions on their sovereignty.

But the omission brought jeers from Amnesty International and other human rights organizations, such as the Friends of Brad Will, founded in the name of a freelance New York journalist who was shot and killed while shooting video of a teachers strike in Oaxaca two years ago. A native of Chicago's North Shore, Will was 36.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; mexico; minuteman; minutemen; wod
"That's the Minutemen. Their remedies for the drug war next door sound simplistic, but at least they're paying attention."
1 posted on 06/29/2008 6:49:56 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: chicagolady; CSM; RightSideNews; Grimmy; BradyLS; DeLaVerdad; YourAdHere; Be_Politically_Erect; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


2 posted on 06/29/2008 6:53:33 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Mexican leaders threatened to reject the money if there were too many restrictions on their sovereignty.

Words fail...

3 posted on 06/29/2008 7:12:42 AM PDT by Sal (Question Him, you're an attacker; Disagree with Him, you're a racist.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

yeah, right!

do you know how much mexican nationals in mexico resent the american military?


4 posted on 06/29/2008 7:37:04 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

All we have to do is legalize Marijuana, Cocaine, and Heroin and the war in Mexico would end tomorrow.

Whats happening in Mexico is second only to needlessly dead cops in the bad effects of the drug war.


5 posted on 06/29/2008 8:18:31 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: SwinneySwitch
For now, we're not sending troops, just money. The Senate last Thursday approved a $1.6 billion, three-year package of anti-drug assistance to Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean. Known as the "Merida Initiative," it includes $400 million for military equipment and technical assistance for Mexico's anti-drug fight. The bill was passed earlier by the House and President Bush is expected to sign it.

Once we begin sending advisers, then it's obvious that we've really screwed the pooch.

6 posted on 06/29/2008 9:40:04 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Sorry but, the Drug wars have been IN this country a very long time. Not just the Hispanics but, the Russians, Chinese, Italians, etc...


7 posted on 06/29/2008 9:43:43 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Sal

I agree. Build the fence and put a 300 yard no man’s land on this side of the border, the entire length and pass a law anyone caught in that area will be shot on sight without prior notification. Simple. The word will get out soon. Best place now to train our National Guard & Reserve troops on how to shoot moving targets.


8 posted on 06/29/2008 10:10:25 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: The Free Engineer

Living in San Diego and 15 miles north from the S.D. - Tijuana border, your simplistic idea in the real world
is a joke.

With your logic, you would legalize hit & runs and robbery
so not to have any needless deaths.


9 posted on 06/29/2008 1:52:54 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: SwinneySwitch

No offense to the minutemen or the army or whoever, but they’ll fail as epically as anyone else who wants to become a drug warrior. The problem isn’t with their desire or intelligence or anything, but with the fact they (like the rest of the drug warriors) are trying to stop the law of supply and demand, which is impossible.


10 posted on 06/29/2008 4:00:54 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: SoCalPol

Holy awful analogies Batman!

Illicit drugs are no different from alcohol. Actually, alcohol is a drug. There are certainly negative effects from having a drug legal (increase usage and the negative circumstances of increased usage...in the case of booze increased violence and traffic accidents among other things), but there are also positive effects (no more criminals creating a black market, no jail spaces being filled with people just in jail for alcohol possession an d all the other jail spaces filled with everyone in an illegal alcohol trade, no idiots coming across the border with alcohol for sale).

The key is whether the positive effects outweigh the negative effects. Obviously for alcohol the public believed there were some positive effects for making it legal as they tried making it illegal and didn’t care for the negative side effects of prohibition.

I cannot see any positive effects from legalizing robbery.


11 posted on 06/29/2008 4:07:25 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: Nate505

There is a big demand for evil in the world.


12 posted on 06/30/2008 6:00:38 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Their remedies for the drug war next door sound simplistic

Smarter than the US government's plan to fund a $1.5 billion CF to solve the problem.

13 posted on 06/30/2008 6:02:45 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: SoCalPol

I suppose its a simple answer but it worked for alcohol. No more gang warfare over alcohol sales.


14 posted on 06/30/2008 7:21:36 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: SwinneySwitch

Of course. That’s why you see billions in alcohol sales in this country every year.


15 posted on 06/30/2008 9:18:26 AM PDT by Nate505
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To: The Free Engineer

It is much larger than that.
Many folks on FR live in small towns and their lives are
black or white, this or that.
There is a big world out there and you can’t put simple minded answers to much larger situations you know nothing about.
The Drug cartels are more than dealing with drugs, kidnappings is a major problem, beheadings, all forms of corruption.


16 posted on 06/30/2008 12:32:37 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: SwinneySwitch

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17 posted on 07/09/2008 3:07:29 PM PDT by Blue Collar Republican (3 fingers of Jim Beam in a dirty glass)
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