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A county's fumbling, a family's nightmare
Denver Post ^ | 6/26/2008 | Susan Greene

Posted on 06/29/2008 7:59:52 AM PDT by Oyarsa

Josh Raykin had never spent even a night away from his parents.

That is, until Arapahoe County snatched the 8-year-old from his home after an abuse allegation that social workers dragged their feet investigating.

The ordeal began while Josh was playing outside one day before dinner in April. A neighbor knocked on the door to tell his dad that police had come to take Josh away.

The strawberry-blond kid with pale blue eyes was born in 1999 after Michael and Melanie Raykin tried for 15 years to conceive. Michael, a courier, and Melanie, a hairstylist, work extra hours to send Josh to Denver's Montclair Academy and give their boy advantages they never had as kids in the former U.S.S.R.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: cps; cpswatch; falseaccusation; fascism; jackbootedthugs; joshraykin

1 posted on 06/29/2008 7:59:52 AM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

Sickening.


2 posted on 06/29/2008 8:03:24 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Oyarsa
To do that to a child is despicable. I can find no words for it. To destroy a family with unfounded accusations of child abuse is even more contemptible. I know - the county was just doing its job. But it doesn't excuse the hell they put that family and child through.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 06/29/2008 8:04:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Oyarsa

This is why we have a second amendment.


4 posted on 06/29/2008 8:08:59 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Oyarsa

Welcome to the home of the free.


5 posted on 06/29/2008 8:09:15 AM PDT by mia
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To: goldstategop

Innocent before proven guilty. An investigation could and should have been conducted before removing the child from his home.


6 posted on 06/29/2008 8:10:06 AM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa
... We came from such a hard world to be free in a country where, just like this," says his mom, snapping her fingers, "they can grab your kid away from you right off your street."

What a delusional, right-wing nut job. The government was only trying to help. /sarc

7 posted on 06/29/2008 8:10:16 AM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: Oyarsa
This is SOP in this country. They snatch your kid because you are guilty until proven innocent. Meanwhile..your kid sits in foster care and YOU have to foot the bill for that. You DON'T get that money back NOR does your kid get help recovering from the nightmare.

I know.

8 posted on 06/29/2008 8:10:22 AM PDT by mommadooo3 (Old concept in justice. If the law won't take care of it, it's just us.)
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To: Oyarsa

Disgusting.I dont know what I would do if they tried that with my family.


9 posted on 06/29/2008 8:12:37 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Oyarsa

Liberals; Birth to Death Government Nanny State. This is the result. Horrifying.


10 posted on 06/29/2008 8:13:46 AM PDT by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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To: Oyarsa
More incompetence from our government. Seems to me that f . . . .ggovernment has become on word.
11 posted on 06/29/2008 8:23:14 AM PDT by JayAr36 (Old enough to remeber when this was a Free Country)
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To: Oyarsa
This is the ultimate liberal means of control. In Cleveland, Ohio it's used to separate fathers from their kids in divorce proceedings. If you have the money to fight it you can push DFS back, but they are never put out of business for such atrocities. If you don't have the money the kid goes bye-bye, and is possibly raped or killed in a foster home. All this courtesy of those operating "fer the children"!

In my divorce my ex lobbed this against my family. Not against me, but against my neice. My neice was 4 years old at the time. Nice going.

12 posted on 06/29/2008 8:24:58 AM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: mommadooo3

Sex offender laws in this country are insane. This is just one small, minor story of what happens every day, when men’s lives are ruined on the accusation of emotionally damaged children or paranoid social workers / psychologists who think all men are child predators.

Laws have to change before this stops happening. Trust me — it could happen to YOU when you least expect it.

And there is no such thing as “innocent until proven guilty”. Quite the opposite. You think this man’s entire life won’t be changed forever, by friends and family ALWAYS wondering if he DID sexually abuse his son or other children? Of course it has been altered permanently.

False accusations destroy lives every day. Your vote at the ballot box against ridiculous sex offender laws and outrageous sentencing is the only thing that will turn things around.


13 posted on 06/29/2008 8:32:48 AM PDT by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Oyarsa

Every last person involved in what happened to this family should be fired and forbidden to ever work with children again.


14 posted on 06/29/2008 8:35:38 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Oyarsa

This is the same government that some want to provide them with health care, including emergency room treatment.


15 posted on 06/29/2008 8:39:50 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Oyarsa
1) Child Abuse occurs and there are true horror stories from all social classes.
2) Child Abuse ALLEGATIONS certainly exceed actual incidents by orders of magnitude.
3) Social Workers operate under a losing proposition, low status civil servants, bureaucratic straight-jacket rules, severe consequences upon error(s) [personally & client].
4) Child endangerment occurs quickly and in secret.
5) Information on abuse seldom comes with proof and certainty.
6) INNOCENT FAMILIES are EASILY caught in Kafkaesque nightmares without recourse because of the above reasons.

There are no easy answers and HINDSIGHT is 20/20. I feel strongly for this family and I remember the INFAMOUS 'Child Care Provider' witch-hunts of the 1980s that took so long to rectify. My belief is that a form of Ombudsman that can mitigate the bureaucratic jungle when clear errors occur should be used, but I would greatly hate to be in such a position because of potential errors.

16 posted on 06/29/2008 9:26:04 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: goldstategop

OH, it gets better (sicker). They put the JEWISH kid in a Jehovah’s witness family...who forced him to pray to Jehovah every night. they took away all his toys and his Pokeman toothbrush. They made him clean toilets with a rag.

Maybe someone needs to investigate the foster family?? Not holding my breath.


17 posted on 06/29/2008 9:28:20 AM PDT by blu (Last one out of Michigan, please turn off the lights.)
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To: goldstategop

And let’s not forget, the interview that was supposed to happen BEFORE the child is removed from the home, happened AFTER the child was removed. Due process my keister.


18 posted on 06/29/2008 9:29:52 AM PDT by blu (Last one out of Michigan, please turn off the lights.)
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To: mommadooo3
Indeed.

When I was politically active, we fought against these Gestapo agents tooth and nail.

At one meeting, I even got an ‘agent’ to admit that “86% of the cases we act on prove to be unfounded...but we feel it needs to done for the safety of the children.”

I replied: “So, in the dept’s mind, it's okay to traumatize, to forever kill a child's feeling of security with his parents, to, in plain English, abuse children of innocent families to the tune of 86%, rather than investigate further to eliminate at least some of these unjustified actions?”

She looked at me with a blank, robot face and answered: “Well, yes.”

19 posted on 06/29/2008 10:03:34 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: ishabibble
Every last person involved in what happened to this family should be fired and forbidden to ever work with children again.

I envy you your innocence.

If this happened - as it should - in every such case of totally unwarranted action against families, there would be no Dept of Human Services left in any state.

This is rampant across the country. It's just one more Gestapo Arm of our Gov't

20 posted on 06/29/2008 10:07:54 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: SES1066
One answer is to require that counties hire people with at least some minimum of training. I worked in a case where the "social worker" had no college degree and was barely literate, but who was so arrogant and full of herself that you couldn't complete a sentence before she interrupted. The case was horrible but the kid fortunately escaped the clutches before the foster home nightmare began. Cuyahoga County. Kids in foster homes have been known to die here, courtesy of the government experts.
21 posted on 06/29/2008 10:17:27 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: maine-iac7

I suspect this did not just start with the Demo takeover of CO in 2006. But certainly that did not help matters, considering some of the lousy legislation they have pushed through. So unless the voters there make some changes, this kind of abuse could get worse.

What is with the state taking a child from a home they think is abusive and putting them with foster families who are not fit to care for them?? Absolute lunacy.

Despite all this “vigilance” by state authorities, we still read horrible stories all the time about children ending up dead or injured because they were not taken away even though there were clear signs of abuse before. The system is just mixed up in too many cases but I fear there is no solution.


22 posted on 06/29/2008 10:22:30 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Oyarsa

The work done by child protective services is difficult, but it’s also work that requires good judgment and not zealotry. That these actions were taken because the word of “two young neices” and the boy had never even been interviewed might be hard to believe, but such avoidable mistakes are often in the news.

There seem to be far too zealots doing this work, as the recent FLDS case also illustrates all too well, zealots who spring into action on the thinnest of evidence when a little more thought and investigation could have avoided another pointless tragic situation.


23 posted on 06/29/2008 10:39:27 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Ukiapah Heep
This tactic is also used in divorce proceedings to separate mothers from their children too.

I know of which I speak since it happened to me in Connecticut 18 years ago. No investigation was ever conducted. Not before my children were taken nor after the fact.

My bitter, abusive ex told DFS that he did not want custody of the children but he would prefer that they be split up and placed in foster homes instead of remaining with me. My children were separated from me for quite some time while I fought tooth and nail to get them back. Since these cases are tried in juvenile courts all proceeding are closed. Nice racket the states have going for them.

My teenage sons were placed in a foster home together while my five year old daughter was placed in the home of a very cruel lesbian. The boys found pinholes in the bathroom floor of the foster home they were placed in. The home was in New Fairfield, CT and the family, the Pugners, were eventually found to have been perverts that watched all foster children in their care through these secret holes.

I lost everything, my children, my job and then my home. If it wasn't for two kind law professors at UConn/Storrs who helped me, my children would have been lost forever in the system. After all these years it still brings tears to my eyes and I have only recently been able to speak in public of the horrors we all endured. Now I help other people going through the same thing.

The DFS workers told me that I fit none of their profiles. When that happens they try to break you down to make you fit into their agenda. They were not really after the boys, they just wanted my daughter. If anyone who reads this thinks the states don't have an agenda you are mistaken and extremely naive. The DFS case workers themselves receive monetary bonuses along with other incentives for all children removed from homes. If they can get your parental rights removed in juvenile court the caseworkers receive even more monetary rewards. Children are used as pawns by the states and the state will never admit when they make a mistake.

We did sue and won a nice sum of money but that can never make up for what was done to my family. Sorry, taxpayers of the state of CT but you reap what you sow.

24 posted on 06/29/2008 11:25:54 AM PDT by just deserts
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To: Oyarsa

It’s situations like this that make me want to live in another country, frankly.


25 posted on 06/29/2008 11:30:00 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: TNCMAXQ
I suspect this did not just start with the Demo takeover of CO in 2006.

You suspicion correctly. It has been going on for many decades.

Equally frightening is that the public at large has been too busy to pay attention and to do something about it...

26 posted on 06/29/2008 12:39:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: maine-iac7
I agree

Just another government agency staffed with the emotionally challenged whose zealotry is encouraged and further indemnified with impunity

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27 posted on 06/29/2008 12:52:50 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
Just another government agency staffed with the emotionally challenged whose zealotry is encouraged and further indemnified with impunity .

Whole ball of wax.

Wish I could get in on a bumper sticker...

28 posted on 06/29/2008 1:07:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: maine-iac7
it can been reduced to: protect and serve < / sarcasm>

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30 posted on 06/29/2008 1:25:28 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: maine-iac7
it can been reduced to: protect and serve < / sarcasm>

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31 posted on 06/29/2008 1:25:43 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: imahawk
The first thing you do is get the toughest lawyer you can afford. That does not mean the most expensive, but the one with a fire in their belly who has a problem with the way this is done, and who wants to fight.

Ask around, you'd be surprised at who has had a wild eyed accusation thrown at them.

Then you tell them you'll see them in court. get their witnesses ready, and that you are never going to back down until your name is cleared and you have your kids back.

Stick to your guns, the social serpents will try to have you go to a bunch of counseling and classes which will cost you, sometimes more than money, because they can be seen as admission there was a "problem". Speak with your attorney about that, and do not communicate directly with the Social serpents any more than you have to, that is what your attorney is for.

You will be emotionally distraught (a weakness in any negotiation), the lawyer can keep the poker face necessary to keep 'em guessing.

Any violence, threat of violence, personal attacks, harrassment, outward signs of anger, etc., can and WILL be used against you by these people.

If you cannot keep your cool, (and d@mned few can), LAWYER UP!

32 posted on 06/29/2008 1:31:19 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Oyarsa
Melanie says social workers kept pushing her to say her husband molested their son, insinuating that such an admission would set Josh free. They suggested that Josh having once kissed his cousins on the lips — as is the norm in his parents' culture — was a sign that he had been molested. As social workers saw it, Michael's habit of buying his son toys and taking him to the movies was "grooming" to cover up sexual abuse.

Makes you wonder how many people on sex offender registries after being convicted of child molestation were actually caught up in nets like this one.

Stories like this scare the hell out of me. How many accounts of overzealous CPS workers get no publicity? Who knows how many families have been destroyed by these people.

33 posted on 06/29/2008 2:25:41 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Smokin' Joe

Youre right.


34 posted on 06/29/2008 3:00:32 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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