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Judicial activism by conservatives
Los Angeles Times ^ | June 27, 2008 | Erwin Chemerinsky

Posted on 06/29/2008 7:41:23 PM PDT by TheDon

The Supreme Court's invalidation of the District of Columbia's handgun ban powerfully shows that the conservative rhetoric about judicial restraint is a lie. In striking down the law, Justice Antonin Scalia's majority opinion, joined by the court's four other most conservative justices, is quite activist in pursuing the conservative political agenda of protecting gun owners.

If the terms "judicial activism" and "judicial restraint" have any meaning, it is that a court is activist when it is invalidating laws and overruling precedent, and restrained when deferring to popularly elected legislatures and following prior decisions.

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What then explains the court's decision to strike down the D.C. law? Conservative political ideology. The majority followed prevailing conservative political philosophy and found that the 2nd Amendment bestows on individuals a right to have guns.

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(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; heller; hughhewitt; judiciary; secondamendment
I'm sure Erwin feels the same way about the recent CA Supreme Court decision redefining marriage to include same sex couples.....not! Erwin is the dean of the new UCI Law School. And he is a flaming liberal. He's a regular on the Hugh Hewitt radio show arguing the liberal side of the legal issues of the day. That is one segment of the show I could never listen to. He was so predictable in his cliched positions.

And he lies alot.

1 posted on 06/29/2008 7:41:23 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon

I’ll never forget watching this weak whiney liberal lecture on Consitutional law for bar prep classes.


2 posted on 06/29/2008 7:43:36 PM PDT by Rosemont ($4+ for gas. Can we drill now?)
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To: TheDon
I'm sure Erwin feels the same way about the recent CA Supreme Court decision redefining marriage to include same sex couples

Erwin believes that only liberals can use the court to rewrite the law.

3 posted on 06/29/2008 7:43:46 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: TheDon
Liberals are all for judicial activism when the courts come down on their side. They're only against it when they lose in the courts. Erwin Chemerinsky is a smarmy hypocrite!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 06/29/2008 7:43:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TheDon
The majority followed prevailing conservative political philosophy and found that the 2nd Amendment bestows on individuals a right to have guns.

Maybe it is prevailing conservative political philosophy. However, let's not forget those "evolving standards of decency" that was recently cited in a certain Supreme Court case. And, regardless, the justices simply applied the words of the Second Amendment, literally...something that is not at all judicial activism, to anyone who has ever taken a proper U.S. civics course, commonly taught in both middle or junior high and senior high school.

5 posted on 06/29/2008 7:44:41 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("Facts are stubborn things." –Ronald Reagan)
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To: TheDon

In order to be an activist judge, you need to rule AGAINST the U.S. Constitution.

Ruling in favor of the 2nd amendment is what originalist judges do, and rightfully so.


6 posted on 06/29/2008 7:45:09 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: TheDon
If the terms "judicial activism" and "judicial restraint" have any meaning, it is that a court is activist when it is invalidating laws and overruling precedent, and restrained when deferring to popularly elected legislatures and following prior decisions

A Court is "activist when it is throwing out the Constitution of the United States in favor of some "agenda for change" you moron.

7 posted on 06/29/2008 7:50:20 PM PDT by bill1952 (Obama-the only one who can make me vote McCain McCain-the only one who can make me stay at home)
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To: TheDon

Quick! Call the Whaaaamulance!!!


8 posted on 06/29/2008 7:51:42 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: TheDon

“[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”
—James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

James Madison was a Conservative Activist!

“That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... “
— Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

Samuel Adams was a Conservative activist!

“No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
— Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334,[C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950]

Thomas Jefferson was a conservative activist!

Quotes from George Mason University
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/quotes/arms.html


9 posted on 06/29/2008 7:52:11 PM PDT by camerakid400 (Oy Gevalt)
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To: TheDon

“And he lies alot.” and contradicts himself.

“Erwin Chemerinsky argues in today’s L.A. Times that Heller is an example of judicial activism:

If the terms “judicial activism” and “judicial restraint” have any meaning, it is that a court is activist when it is invalidating laws and overruling precedent, and restrained when deferring to popularly elected legislatures and following prior decisions.

Chemerinsky says that when a constitutional provision is ambiguous, judicial restraint counsels that the Supreme Court defer to legislative enactments:

At the very least, one would expect that a high court committed to judicial restraint would have used the 2nd Amendment’s ambiguity to defer to the political process and to follow precedent.

Here is a persuasive case for the opposite view, arguing that ambiguous constitutional provisions should be resolved by the Court:

Mark, you say you’ve never heard a persuasive argument as to why someone committed to “democracy” would want courts to determine the meaning of the Constitution when there is disagreement over its meaning. I think that the basic answer came from Marbury v. Madison: the limits of the Constitution have no meaning if they are not enforced and the other branches of government see their role as pleasing constituents, not upholding the Constitution.

. . . .

The core of your position seems to be that if there is disagreement over the meaning of the Constitution, there is no reason to prefer having the court make the choice rather than the political process. My view, in contrast, is that society is better off having an institution largely insulated from majoritarian politics determine the meaning of the Constitution and enforce it.

Well said.

You might be interested to know who made this argument. He is a well-known law professor by the name of Erwin Chemerinsky.”

http://patterico.com/2008/06/27/chemerinsky-v-chemerinsky/


10 posted on 06/29/2008 7:52:53 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Holding my nose in 2008. I disagree with McCain on lots of issue, but with the Democrats on more.)
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To: TheDon
And he lies a lot.

Yep. he sure does.

If the terms "judicial activism" and "judicial restraint" have any meaning, it is that a court is activist when it is invalidating laws and overruling precedent, and restrained when deferring to popularly elected legislatures and following prior decisions.

What frightens me is the thought that many Americans are too poorly educated to see through this lie.

11 posted on 06/29/2008 7:58:08 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: TheDon

Erwin is to the left of Lenin. Quoting Erwin on the Constitution is like quoting Karen Carpenter on nutrition.


12 posted on 06/29/2008 7:58:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Sun

Hey Erwin (nice name), the only agenda the 5 majority justices on the court were pursuing was that of protecting the Second Amendment. DumbAss.


13 posted on 06/29/2008 7:59:44 PM PDT by castowell
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To: TheDon

I’d say by his actions King George was a Democrat.

Case closed.


14 posted on 06/29/2008 7:59:49 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter II)
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To: Mad Dawg
B. Hussein Obama also, God help us, taught conlaw at one point.

Marxists teaching conlaw.....the gospel of Antonio Gramsci.

15 posted on 06/29/2008 8:00:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Erwin believes that only liberals can use the court to rewrite the law.

Nobody's rewriting the law.

The Constitution doesn't give any rights to anyone.

It states that GOD gives us our rights and it then goes on to state what limitations there are on the Government to infringe those rights.

Your right to carry a gun is not "given" in the Constitution, you had it already.

What IS in the Constitution is a clear declaration that the Government shall not take that right away, and by thus stating so, validates that that right exists. It doesn't state that it is an individual right or a collective right, because frankly, that's irrelevant.

16 posted on 06/29/2008 8:07:08 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: TheDon
Chemerinsky gave me one of the most memorable laughs of my life when he was arguing Constitutional law with someone – I believe John Eastman - on Hugh Hewitt’s show and the person read a paragraph in opposition to Chemerinsky’s point of view.

Chemerinsky quickly and vehemently argued the statement was clearly wrong.

At which point, the other guy pointed out that Chemerinsky, himself had written it a few years prior.

He’s a contrarian asshat who argues whatever point is expedient to his self-serving agenda.

17 posted on 06/29/2008 8:07:18 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: castowell

“the only agenda the 5 majority justices on the court were pursuing was that of protecting the Second Amendment.”

Exactly. An activist judge is a judge who “sees” something in the Constitution that is not THERE.

The left thinks an activist judge is someone who doesn’t agree with their leftist ideology.


18 posted on 06/29/2008 8:07:52 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: TheDon

Erwin Cherminisky reveals himself to be a true Marxist in the mold of Sol Alinsky, Obama’s Marxist idol. Who else would be a dean of Law at an American university? He’s probably positioning himself for a Supreme Court nomination. Te nation needs a good old fashioned enema to flush the garbage out of the system.


19 posted on 06/29/2008 8:09:13 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: TheDon

Dear LA Times,

This is why you’re going to go out of business.

We won’t miss you.

Good bye.

Don’t forget to write. (Just kidding. We actually hate your writings.)

Sincerely,

Coloradan and millions of other Americans.


20 posted on 06/29/2008 8:15:31 PM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: TheDon

How is reaffirming the actual wording of the 2nd Amendment “judicial activism”?


21 posted on 06/29/2008 8:17:59 PM PDT by montag813
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To: TheDon

How is upholding the Second Amendment an example of judicial activism?


22 posted on 06/29/2008 8:19:29 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: TheDon

They sure whine when they lose, don’t they?


23 posted on 06/29/2008 8:24:50 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Rosemont

I bet it was quite intolerable...


24 posted on 06/29/2008 8:40:54 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: enough_idiocy

LOL! I figured his argument sounded rather odd coming from him.


25 posted on 06/29/2008 8:43:21 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Travis McGee

LOL!


26 posted on 06/29/2008 8:44:06 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Which is why I got tired of listening to his drivel. I’ve listened enough to liberals to know it is a complete waste of time. If they at least made logical arguments, they might be worth listening to.


27 posted on 06/29/2008 8:46:54 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon
I laugh every time I read one of these nitwits proclaim that the reading of the 2A is somehow "judicial activism" and that "originalism" proclaims that Americans have always had no rights to defend themselves. They have deluded themselves into believing that the 1939 Miller decision (which they haven't even read) somehow put an end to the concept of individual rights, and that eternal wisdom long ago denied any rights of "the people" to do anything but shop at the mall.

To all journalistic nitwits out there: the past 60 years hardly define "originalism", and Miller decided nothing. You have been reading from the NYT playbook and drinking the Democratic Kool-Aid, and now you have been beeyotch-slapped back into reality when you forced the interpretation of the 2A to the Supreme Court. Deal with it. You can whine and delude yourselves all you want, but we, the people, won. We don't need the blessing of the USSC but we now have it. So please, take your whining elsewhere and save the whales or something. You no longer have any purchase on our rights. You are like a squeaky hinge on a gatepost in the night; annoying yet harmless. Like a barking miniature terrier. Ankle biters. Let better men and women than you handle their own affairs. Freedom has asserted itself once again, and you'd best steer clear of subjects you know nothing of and hide behind your desk.

28 posted on 06/29/2008 8:58:13 PM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: TheDon
“In striking down the law”

Let me correct that. “In upholding the 2nd ammendment”

29 posted on 06/29/2008 9:04:51 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: goldstategop

What’s activist about upholding the second amendment? Everyone has a right to defend himself and to have a gun. That’s activism to enforce the intent of the 2nd amendment?


30 posted on 06/29/2008 9:12:11 PM PDT by rtbwood
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To: LiteKeeper
How is upholding the Second Amendment an example of judicial activism?

DUH...like, how stupid are you? It overturns past precedent of judicial decisions that undermine the original intent. Like, everyone knows THAT!

31 posted on 06/29/2008 9:33:14 PM PDT by papertyger (Gun control laws make as much sense as giving condoms to a pregnant teen.)
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To: goldstategop

That’s not exactly accurate. He is not correct that this is an activist ruling in the first place. In fact, it should have been less timid than it was.


32 posted on 06/29/2008 9:44:48 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Typical white person)
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To: TheDon
...and found that the 2nd Amendment bestows on individuals a right to have guns.

The Supreme Court "found" nothing, of course. It merely reaffirmed the Constitutional right of the people to keep and bear arms and told a government entity to stop trampling on that right. Gee, that is some activism....

Hehe, this guy Chemerinsky is quite the pantload. He sounds like he's been taking lessons from George "rhymes with" on how to lie.

33 posted on 06/29/2008 9:51:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: TheDon

Projection


34 posted on 06/29/2008 11:03:20 PM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: TheDon
After endless appearances of Erwin during the O.J. trial, I determined his pending appearance was a good cue to change the channel or turn the TV off. Flaming liberal is hardly adequate to describe his leftist ideology.
35 posted on 06/30/2008 12:01:50 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: TheDon; All

Anyone who listens to the Hugh Hewitt Show has had to suffer thought the stupidity of Erwin Chemerinsky. He is the type of attorney that all of us love to hate. He is truly on the lunatic fringe. He isn’t even a liberal,he is on the very far far left. He really makes me sick. I despise this guy. He is wrong on just about every issue. Left unchecked this is type of man who will destroy America. In earlier times he would have been “tared and feathered”.


36 posted on 06/30/2008 2:46:04 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Lancey Howard
The Supreme Court "found" nothing, of course. ... It's almost too easy to fisk this silly op-ed, but that line caught my attention too. Scalia went to some lenghts to point out that the enumerated rights in the BOR existed prior to the constitution, and thus were not "granted" by that document, but were recognized and protected from government depredation.

Eriwn's a smart guy, and must know this.

So he's either engaging in rhetorical excess, or he's lying.

37 posted on 06/30/2008 7:50:52 AM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: absalom01
Eriwn's a smart guy, and must know this. So he's either engaging in rhetorical excess, or he's lying.

Not to disagree or bandy words, but how smart could this guy be, really?

38 posted on 06/30/2008 8:07:51 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: TheDon

It’s easy to say anything when you don’t have to worry about adhering to any principles.


39 posted on 06/30/2008 5:43:15 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Holding my nose in 2008. I disagree with McCain on lots of issue, but with the Democrats on more.)
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