Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Brazil sets sights on increasing oil production
Oil & Gas Journal ^ | June 29, 2008 | Eric Watkins

Posted on 06/30/2008 8:23:39 AM PDT by thackney

Brazil will at least triple its oil reserves by exploring the new Tupi offshore area, and will use the future revenues on healthcare and education for the country, according to Brazilian President Luiz Ignacio Lula da Silva.

"This is very promising for Brazil. We have to take advantage of this oil to develop the country," Lula told Bloomberg Television. "It's a chance for the Brazilian poor to use this money as opposed to having people with a lot of oil and three or four watches and a Rolex in their pockets. We want to take advantage of these riches to ensure that Brazil can take a great leap forward."

The Brazilian president avoided estimating the exact amount of petroleum that will be produced in the areas recently discovered by state oil concern Petroleo Brasileiro SA (Petrobras). Asked whether there was a possibility of tripling the current volume of production, he said, "There must be more than that, but I don't have the exact figure because there would be a lot of speculation in the stock market."

Concerning the methods that the government will use to explore the new Brazilian discoveries, Lula said, "That is a state secret." He said only that exploration of the Tupi well in the Santos Basin would take place in March. "We are going as deep as possible; we are working even more intensively."

Lula said he has changed his mind and won't seek membership for Brazil in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. "I'm under no illusion that Brazil will join OPEC," he said. "I used to be, but am no longer."

Instead, Lula expressed confidence in his country's transformation into a major producer of petroleum and exporter of petroleum products.

"I cannot discuss the size of the reserves, but I feel that Brazil is going to be transformed into a major producer. I do not want it to become an exporter of petroleum," he said. "I want Brazil to export petroleum products."

No reason for high oil price

Meanwhile, according to Lula, there is no reason for the successive rises in the price of oil. "Petroleum does not need to cost what it does; half that amount would be fine," he said.

He pointed out that the experts attribute the higher price of petroleum to several things such as rising consumption in China or the increasing use of reserves in the US. "But we are aware that the price does not need to be what it is."

In Lula's opinion, governments need to consider the impact of petroleum costs on food production, citing the cost of fertilizer and transportation. "I believe that the world will realize the irresponsibility of this point in time because of both petroleum and food," he said.

In Lula's opinion, the stand by US Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama against purchasing Brazilian ethanol and John McCain's stand in favor of it are just part of an election strategy. "When they take office," he said, "they will begin working in terms of reality."

In fact, Lula is convinced that Brazilian ethanol will be used in the US regardless of who wins the upcoming presidential election. "Whoever wins the election there will realize that it is cheaper, generates more employment, guarantees more peace, and creates no conflict with food production."

"I'm convinced that whoever wins the election will start using ethanol made from sugarcane," Lula said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brazil; democrats; drillheredrillnow; drilling; elections; energy; gasprices; mccain; obama; offshoredrilling; oil; opec; santosbasin; tupi
He pointed out that the experts attribute the higher price of petroleum to several things such as rising consumption in China or the increasing use of reserves in the US.

Anyone have an idea what "increasing use of reserves" he is talking about?

1 posted on 06/30/2008 8:23:40 AM PDT by thackney
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: thackney

Only one country with the ability to go after new oil reserves is not doing so. And its a direct result of the 1060s, “I hate America” crowd now taking on the environmental cause. Strangle America, force the economy into recession and do all you can to destroy the country.


2 posted on 06/30/2008 8:28:44 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bulldawg Fan
And its a direct result of the 1060s, “I hate America” crowd...

Wow, now THAT'S really old school! :-)

3 posted on 06/30/2008 8:34:03 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: thackney

And Lulu’s a communist/socialist


4 posted on 06/30/2008 8:40:34 AM PDT by Perdogg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Strategic Reserves?


5 posted on 06/30/2008 8:41:07 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney
DRILL HERE....DRILL NOW!!!!!!

yes I'm yelling.

6 posted on 06/30/2008 8:41:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: newfreep
No kidding. William of Normandy really had a problem with America :0)
7 posted on 06/30/2008 8:49:00 AM PDT by agere_contra
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Don’t those Brazilians know that they can’t drill their way out of this??


8 posted on 06/30/2008 8:49:28 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney
Brazil is not run by the kind of complete, flaming *ssholes found in the US Congress.

Reid/Pelosi are the worst congressional leaders in American history. To be turbocharged in their mega-incompetence and freezer full of cash corruption should Hussein ever seize the Presidency.

The reason Brazil is soon to be self sufficient in oil and we are not:


9 posted on 06/30/2008 8:50:48 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg
And Lulu’s a communist/socialist

Yes, and isn't it pathetic that they are now more forward thinking than the American'ts that now "lead" our Country.

10 posted on 06/30/2008 8:52:47 AM PDT by Prokopton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Ben Ficklin
But we are not withdrawing from our reserves.

If they are talking about the amount going into the SPR, that has been 36.7 thousand barrels per day for the last couple months.

http://www.spr.doe.gov/dir/dir.html

For a comparison, the average petroleum use for the US declined an average of 1,143 thousand barrels per day over approximately the same period.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/mttupus2m.htm

So the decrease in US consumption is 30 times larger than the amount going into the reserve. If that was the claim, it is obviously BS.

11 posted on 06/30/2008 8:53:42 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Vaquero

Why? Nobody outside FR can hear you.


12 posted on 06/30/2008 8:55:23 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: thackney
"Anyone have an idea what "increasing use of reserves" he is talking about? "

I take it that he means that we are increasingly using up our known reserves. Just my opinion though.

13 posted on 06/30/2008 8:59:25 AM PDT by avacado
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

That will take years.

Liberals say anything that takes years should not be pursued.


14 posted on 06/30/2008 8:59:44 AM PDT by NoLibZone (All Democrats must be rationed fuel to reduce their hypocrisy about global warming.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

He sure as heck can’t mean we’re using the US oil reserves.


15 posted on 06/30/2008 9:15:14 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney
"In Lula's opinion, the stand by US Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama against purchasing Brazilian ethanol and John McCain's stand in favor of it are just part of an election strategy."

I'm FAR more interested in McCain's call to open OUR OWN oil fields offshore. However, I like the Brazilian president. He seems to be a very smart man.

16 posted on 06/30/2008 9:19:36 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: avacado

How can we be using up our own reserves? They’re reserves. We’re building them up because we’re adding to them and NOT using them. This can result in lower heating bills this winter, regardless of whom is elected.


17 posted on 06/30/2008 9:22:54 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: cake_crumb

Not the Strategic Reserves. Just production reserves and known reserves.


18 posted on 06/30/2008 9:24:32 AM PDT by avacado
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: cake_crumb

Lulu is a communist/socialist as noted above.


19 posted on 06/30/2008 9:31:04 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: avacado

AH. And how do we do this without opening up those known reserves for exploitation?


20 posted on 06/30/2008 9:31:19 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: cake_crumb

I think what the guy was saying was that the reserves that we can explore and produce from are decreasing. Which is true.

Hope that makes sense?


21 posted on 06/30/2008 9:34:05 AM PDT by avacado
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale

He’s on the money about “Chinese demand” being a total crock though - China’s demand isn’t much higher than it was last year. He’s right about the price of oil not needing to be as high as it is, and he’s also right about our government’s irresponsibility in not taking into account the impact of the price of oil has on the rest of our economy: it should have been incorporated into US policy during or directly after the oil embargo during the 70’s nearly flatlined us.


22 posted on 06/30/2008 9:35:54 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: cake_crumb

He doesn’t know anything. He is wrong about the US Gov’t in every possible way. He is a Communist and doesn’t know anything about China. Another O’Bama.


23 posted on 06/30/2008 9:51:24 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: thackney
Anyone have an idea what "increasing use of reserves" he is talking about?

DRILLING...... Known untapped oil deposits are RESERVES.

24 posted on 06/30/2008 9:52:43 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

I thought Brazil was the country that developed sugarcane ethanol several decades ago so it wouldn’t need gasoline anymore.


25 posted on 06/30/2008 10:21:41 AM PDT by Creeping Incrementalism
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: avacado

Ah. That would be the case worldwide though, not just in the US, as evidenced by the fact that Brazil just announced they’re going to exploit their newly found reserves.


26 posted on 06/30/2008 10:33:19 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale

OK, but I agree with him about China. I’ve followed the oil market most of my life, just because my father made a career in the oil industry, and this excuse about “increased Chinese demand” being behind the sudden rise in oil per barrel is crap.


27 posted on 06/30/2008 10:35:43 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Realism
DRILLING...... Known untapped oil deposits are RESERVES.

So how does increased drilling, more production equate to higher prices?

28 posted on 06/30/2008 11:01:26 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Creeping Incrementalism

Source: http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?id=246842180355425&secid=1501&status=article

29 posted on 06/30/2008 11:03:28 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: thackney
So how does increased drilling, more production equate to higher prices?

Peak oil paranoia. When we're down to your last 12 years of known oil reserves and we want to use it today it draws attention.

30 posted on 06/30/2008 11:09:05 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Realism

It’s only 12 years when you don’t count most of the oil we have.

We have lots of petroleum resouces. What we lack is a will to use them.


31 posted on 06/30/2008 11:20:57 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: thackney; Realism
" So how does increased drilling, more production equate to higher prices? "

I don't think he was so much as implying increased production as he was implying an increase use of our known and untapped reserves in the face of not discovering new reserves domestically. Just my guess. His wording was a bit confusing.

32 posted on 06/30/2008 11:25:36 AM PDT by avacado
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: avacado

I’m still confused. How do we have increased use of untapped reserves?


33 posted on 06/30/2008 11:28:11 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: thackney
"I’m still confused. How do we have increased use of untapped reserves?"

For example, some of the big finds in the Gulf of Mexico in the late 1990s are just now being tapped while similar finds and not being found to replace previous finds.

34 posted on 06/30/2008 11:31:00 AM PDT by avacado
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: thackney

How do we have increased use of untapped reserves?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2037974/posts


35 posted on 06/30/2008 11:47:25 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Realism

Wouldn’t that be tapped reserves?


36 posted on 06/30/2008 11:53:16 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Brazil is the world’s new superpower.


37 posted on 06/30/2008 12:17:54 PM PDT by Santino Sonny Corleone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Santino Sonny Corleone

I meant the new member of the few.


38 posted on 06/30/2008 12:18:31 PM PDT by Santino Sonny Corleone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Perhaps they will sell us some cheap ethanol once they can afford fill their tanks with straight gas.


39 posted on 06/30/2008 1:52:24 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Realism
When we're down to your last 12 years of known oil reserves

The CEO of BP says there are 41 years of known at the present rate of production. Obviously the present rate of production could not be sustained right to the end, so there would still be a few barrels left long after we are gone.

40 posted on 06/30/2008 1:55:54 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: thackney
My God, what about the Brazilian environment! They'll destroy it with all that drilling.
41 posted on 06/30/2008 1:57:23 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale
The CEO of BP says there are 41 years of known at the present rate of production.

So is the intent to open up all these other areas for increased production or for easy access?

42 posted on 06/30/2008 2:08:26 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: PsyOp

We already import more ethanol from Brazil than from anywhere else.

As for cheap, don’t count on it.


43 posted on 06/30/2008 2:51:10 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: thackney

I thought we weren’t allowed to import Brazilian ethanol because it was sugar based. I thought there was a ban on that which is why we decided to turn our food into ethanol. Pretty sure I saw an article or two on that. Where am I wrong?

As for cheap... I should have included a sarcasm tag. ;-]


44 posted on 06/30/2008 3:34:08 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: PsyOp

Yeah, I’ve seen that myth repeated by politicians and reporters.

Brazil has been the largest source of imported ethanol for years.

http://www.ethanolrfa.org/industry/statistics/#F


45 posted on 06/30/2008 5:47:04 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: thackney

It’ll take a long time to come on line. They really shouldn’t bother. It’ll be too tough to get at. They could have a spill. People will just use the oil.


46 posted on 06/30/2008 6:44:56 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

thanks for the link and clarification.


47 posted on 07/01/2008 7:44:41 AM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson