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[Ted] Kennedy leads renewed effort on universal healthcare
Boston Globe ^ | July 2, 2008 | Lisa Wangsness

Posted on 07/02/2008 4:55:53 AM PDT by Zakeet

Senator Edward M. Kennedy's office has begun convening a series of meetings involving a wide array of healthcare specialists to begin laying the groundwork for a new attempt to provide universal healthcare, according to participants.

The discussions signal that Kennedy, who instructed aides to begin holding the meetings while he is in Massachusetts undergoing treatment for brain cancer, intends to work vigorously to build bipartisan support for a major healthcare initiative when he returns to Washington in the fall.

Those involved in the discussions said Kennedy believes it is extremely important to move as quickly as possible on overhauling the healthcare system after the next president takes office in January in order to capitalize on the momentum behind a new administration.

Kennedy was an early endorser of Senator Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee who is also a member of the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, which Kennedy chairs.

Obama's Senate staff has attended the roundtable discussions. If Obama is elected, Kennedy's effort to identify points of agreement among senators could smooth the way for the new administration to press ahead on universal healthcare, which Obama has promised to implement within four years.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; healthcare; kennedy; socializedmedicine; ussenate; welfare

You have got to think this will be the Ted Kennedy
Health Reform Act, because he's a beloved figure
and he's championed the issue for so long

1 posted on 07/02/2008 4:55:53 AM PDT by Zakeet
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3 posted on 07/02/2008 4:58:17 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Zakeet

I hope the Kennedy brothers meet together soon.


4 posted on 07/02/2008 4:59:29 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: Zakeet

Just a reminder of this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2038721/posts
“Sen. Ted Kennedy, newly diagnosed with a cancerous brain tumor, had searched the nation for the best neurosurgeon to remove the growth — and he wanted Friedman.”

This pantload is the epitome of hypocrisy. How would he feel when his universal healthcare rendered him DEAD?


5 posted on 07/02/2008 5:00:14 AM PDT by AT7Saluki
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To: Doc Savage
Ditto.

He wants to force the rest of us into a healthcare system that would be unable or unwilling to provide “the masses” with the same medical treatment he received: the best in the country, at the front of the line, because he is an elitist tyrant.

Hey Oldsmobile Teddy, why didn't you have your tumor removed in Canada, or Cuba, or England? I sincerely wish you had.

6 posted on 07/02/2008 5:01:21 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Zakeet

Legacy building.


7 posted on 07/02/2008 5:01:49 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Zakeet


8 posted on 07/02/2008 5:04:08 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: AT7Saluki

Oregon State would have told Kennedy to forget about treating the cancer and sent him to the Assisted Suicide dept - just like they do to some other cancer patients.


9 posted on 07/02/2008 5:07:59 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Zakeet

Was Maryjoe covered?


10 posted on 07/02/2008 5:08:20 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Zakeet

He used his sympathy from his brother’s death to shove the “immigration reform” that has ruined this country down our throats. So now he’s going to use his own death to shove “health care reform” down our throats?


11 posted on 07/02/2008 5:11:00 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Zakeet

Breaking into song....

Mistakes? I’ve made a few. But then again....


12 posted on 07/02/2008 5:14:35 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

But then again... what difference does it make I’m a Kennedy!


13 posted on 07/02/2008 5:15:31 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Zakeet

Universal Health Care = Government Mandated Healthcare Rationing.

Pass it on.


14 posted on 07/02/2008 5:17:21 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Glenn
Legacy building.

Exactly. I suppose he figures he can get Communist Health Care passed and they will boo-hoo cause he dies and stick his name on it.

15 posted on 07/02/2008 5:19:42 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: bmwcyle
The Kennedy Brothers would meet a lot sooner if Ted would switch to the same government regulated and paid for care that he wants everyone else to have. That type of waiting-list and least-common-denominator care would be a great way for him to help heal his brain tumor, don't you thinkg?

But, you watch, whatever they come up with, there will be an out for Congressmen. Just like their kids get to go to private schools, and just like they have their own retirement and pensions, they will be allowed to have government-hands-off healt care.
16 posted on 07/02/2008 5:24:11 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"Conservative" Mitt Romney with Ted Kennedy and mostly all Democrats, signs his health care commandments.


17 posted on 07/02/2008 5:24:46 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Zakeet
Kennedy leads renewed effort on universal healthcare...

From which he and his kind will, of course, be exempt...

18 posted on 07/02/2008 5:25:00 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: bmwcyle
Reminds me of one of the best movie lines I've ever heard [from Wall Street]

Michael Douglas answers a question with the line 'Does Rose Kennedy have a black dress?"

19 posted on 07/02/2008 5:25:39 AM PDT by realdifferent1
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I challenged someone that supports socialist healthcare with this:

The systems are failing in other countries, there are 2 yr waits for checkups, people are waiting in ambulances outside of emergency rooms for 6 hours or more, doctors are pursuing other occupations, etc.

Now, are the people that implemented these systems in the other country stupid or incompetent?
Are the people that will implement the system here in the USA that much smarter?

See, liberals, as shown by their policies, DO believe they are smarter than anyone else who has ever lived, and smarter than God Himself.
But, when confronted with this logical observation, they understand that it is unsustainable and indefensible.

BTW, the person in question above then said, well, maybe the gov’t isn’t the right entity to implement a universal health system.
(Uh, no other entity has the authority to “implement a universal system”.)


20 posted on 07/02/2008 5:31:12 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Zakeet
This is Ted's Legacy and Swan Song.

His early support of Obama is a quid pro quo for his desire for Socialized Medicine.

Ok, look at this picture.

we haven't fixed SSI, Medicaid, Medicare and GWB's Senior Drug Program is another budget busting entitlement, and they want to add one more?

At the same time they won't drill or build windmills off Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard.

We are royally screwed...

Oh well, this will really effect the only bright spot in the Detroit Regional Economy, Canadians coming over for care they can't get with their screwed up socialized medicine. Now they will have no where to go....

Oh well, Poland and the Czech Republic are looking better every day....

21 posted on 07/02/2008 5:33:32 AM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: Zakeet

Under his plan , the same crowd running the driver’s license dept would have told him that he was fat, alcoholic, and too old to spend limited resources on . Instead, he racks up a 500,000-600,000 bill by getting air lifted to a Boston hospital for ER surgery. The nerve of this learjet leftist to use his diseased body as a PR Prop to peddle limited care when he demands the best at any cost.


22 posted on 07/02/2008 5:34:36 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: MrB
Good points.

I've found two books to be especially helpful in combating those who support government-run healthcare (and that's what it is, regardless if you call it single-payer, affordable, or universal healthcare — it is all socialist by design and run by the government).

The first book is, “Your Doctor is Not In” by Dr. Jane Orient. This paints a great picture of the effect of national and state regs on the local doctor.

The second book is, “Lives at Risk” by Goodman, Musgrave, and Herrick. This book, though a bit deep in detail, paints an impressive and exacting picture of how government-run healthcare in other countries has failed miserably and the effect that that failure has had on both patients and the medical field.

23 posted on 07/02/2008 5:39:39 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Zakeet
It's a good thing Ted went to a public hospital for his brain surgery. Who was the random surgeon? Talk is cheap.
24 posted on 07/02/2008 5:41:04 AM PDT by zek157
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To: AT7Saluki
That situation at Kings County psychiatric hospital made me think of Ted Kennedy and how he wants only the best for himself yet he'd stuff all of us into that waiting room to die.

No, I have no positive feelings whatsoever for this particular Kennedy, and relatively few such feelings about any of the others.

25 posted on 07/02/2008 5:43:23 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Zakeet

I was at my Cardiologist’s yesterday and he was telling me about a patient he had just seen. He said it was a 76 year old man from England. He needed a pacemaker and because he was 76, they would not give him one, so he and his family came to America to get one. I asked my Doc if he was going to get one. He replied that he had just arranged it. Being 70, I don’t look forward to dying on a gurney in a hallway... even if it is FREE!!


26 posted on 07/02/2008 5:48:29 AM PDT by Realist
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To: Zakeet
...because he's a beloved figure...

If Americans had the kind of health care 'Senator' Kennedy receives, we'd be dead.

Ours would mirror Canada's where a cancerous tumor sufferer is given a year before treatment can be administered and lives ten months.

America must fight this complete descent into socialism with tooth and nail.

27 posted on 07/02/2008 5:48:38 AM PDT by KLFuchs (Congress and the president working together is much worse than having them fighting.)
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To: Leisler

Yesterday the Governor signed a $1.00/pk extra tax on cigarettes to pay for MA mandatory health care....
It’s for the illegals.


28 posted on 07/02/2008 5:58:56 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: Zakeet
Congress (both parties) can't even take provide in a timely fashion for existing programs such as medicare and Tricare...so what fools expect them to do better in the future?

Why isn't the mainstream media screaming about this affront to the elderly and the veterans?

From the MOAA websites...

“They had months to work out a relatively simple deal to prevent a 10.6% cut in Medicare payments from taking effect on July 1 and to prevent cutting off Medicare coverage for hundreds of thousands of Medicare-eligible speech and physical therapy patients on that date.

But they chose to play political chicken with seniors’ care, and their collective hard-headedness prevented anything from getting done. Having failed in timely action, Congress took a week’s vacation over Independence Day and promised to fix things when they return....

Medicare payments to doctors will be cut 10.6% starting July 1. Also as of July 1, speech, physical or occupational therapy patients for whom Medicare has already paid at least $1,810 for therapy in 2008 will have further Medicare payments for that care stopped....

This isn’t the first time Congress has failed to stop a Medicare payment cut. In 2006, Congress missed the deadline...”

29 posted on 07/02/2008 6:00:29 AM PDT by remur389 (Buy American)
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To: Zakeet

Converting to socialism, one bad idea at a time.


30 posted on 07/02/2008 6:02:38 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: AT7Saluki
Here's now Canada handles brain tumors.
31 posted on 07/02/2008 6:09:21 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: AT7Saluki
Here's what they will pay for.
32 posted on 07/02/2008 6:10:13 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Zakeet
This is the problem MaryJo slayer is trying to correct.
33 posted on 07/02/2008 6:11:17 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Zakeet

If we had a national health care plan in place as envisioned by Sen. Kennedy, do you think someone his age and physical condition and having the same brain cancer would have been able to receive under the plan the sophisticated brain surgery the good Senator just received or even had the choice of going to a specialist in another state?


34 posted on 07/02/2008 6:17:36 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: taildragger

“This is Ted’s Legacy and Swan Song.”

EXACTLY.

And they will use his exit as the stage to launch it. Probably name it after him. And the MSM will not whisper a word of the decidedly NON-universal healthcare that Ted sought in his waning months.


35 posted on 07/02/2008 6:22:29 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: Zakeet

“Abortion, but no guns, fences, school or health care choices for you peons!”
Ted Kennedy and the rest of your social, economic and political superiors


36 posted on 07/02/2008 6:39:35 AM PDT by tumblindice (A republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: Zakeet

Considering his health....he shouldn’t be attempting an legislation...IMO.


37 posted on 07/02/2008 6:41:43 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: taildragger

Remember the Kennedy sponsored education bill “No child left behind?” Let’s hope “No patient left behind” is just as successful. Sarcasm now turned off.


38 posted on 07/02/2008 6:42:51 AM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: Zakeet
Those involved in the discussions said Kennedy believes it is extremely important to move as quickly as possible

No kidding, and to expect him to return to Congress in the Fall, ridiculous.

39 posted on 07/02/2008 6:47:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


40 posted on 07/02/2008 7:11:07 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: socialismisinsidious

ping list please?


41 posted on 07/02/2008 7:23:15 AM PDT by Lovergirl (Once a SnowFlake always a SnowFlake.)
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To: Zakeet

I think when most people here Universal Health Care, they think that nothing will change except the government will pick up the tab when they go to the doctor/hospital (not that I’m okay with that either). I don’t think they realize just how involved the government gets in the process and many of them are enthralled by the idea of never paying for check-ups and hospital visits. This socialist welfare mentality has to stop, unfortunately it has taken us nearly a century to get to where we are so the prospects of changing so rapidly are grim.


42 posted on 07/02/2008 7:41:30 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Excellent videos. Not only inept, but evil, when it’s against the law to pay for your own. That’s Hillary Health Care. Doctors and patients who tried to go outside the system would be subject to prosecution for bribery. Pie-eyed libs don’t know what they’re asking for.


43 posted on 07/02/2008 7:46:12 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Lovergirl

Done. Welcome aboard.


44 posted on 07/02/2008 8:47:33 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: libertarian27
In Hyannis, you can get North Carolina cigarettes for $3.00 a pack.

Of course these people are criminals by edict of state power, other than than, they are making people happy.

45 posted on 07/02/2008 9:23:41 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: The Great RJ
If we had a national health care plan in place as envisioned by Sen. Kennedy, do you think someone his age and physical condition and having the same brain cancer would have been able to receive under the plan the sophisticated brain surgery the good Senator just received or even had the choice of going to a specialist in another state?
Sorry for the litteral answer to a hypothetical question.

Not a problem -- the political class have already allocated themselves healthcare, retirement, and a raft of other benefits you and I will never see. Don't think for a moment that they will not get the BEST health care available while the tax-cows die in the ERs. After all, there's lots more tax-cows where we came from, but there's only so many royals!

All of the aforementioned is paid for by us, the serfs, but don't you dare open your mouth and question them...

Peet the Cynical
46 posted on 07/02/2008 10:30:34 AM PDT by Peet (Insert clever phrase here.)
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