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Lonely whales are 'losing the will to live' due to over-hunting
DailyMail.uk ^ | 02nd July 2008 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 07/02/2008 10:49:43 AM PDT by yankeedame

Lonely whales are 'losing the will to live' due to over-hunting

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 4:57 PM on 02nd July 2008

The steeply declining number of whales in the world's oceans is causing the remaining creatures to suffer loneliness and 'lose the will the live', a leading expert has claimed.

The psychological impact of over-hunting on the highly intelligent and sociable animals has been identified as the latest threat to the survival of the species.

The whale population has already fallen dramatically over the past few centuries because to culling by Japan, Norway and Iceland, and the poisoning of oceans which kills off their food.


Whales could be extinct within decades

But now a French scientist has said the majestic mammals - which can reach 80ft in length and weigh the same as a passenger jet - could also suffer from heartbreak.

Paris naturalist Yves Paccalet said: 'It may be that these intelligent animals are so exhausted from their combat with humankind that they have simply have given up the fight.

'And the psychological consequences of our aggression have compromised their will to live.' ....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clueless; coastalenvironment; environment; guess; whales
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1 posted on 07/02/2008 10:49:43 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame

BLUE WHALES?..............


2 posted on 07/02/2008 10:52:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: yankeedame

Whales are highly intelligent animals who pose no threat to human beings and make the world a little more intersting and beautiful.

There is no justifiable reason for hunting and killing these creatures.


3 posted on 07/02/2008 10:54:49 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: yankeedame

Bush’s fault!


4 posted on 07/02/2008 10:55:21 AM PDT by catman67
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To: yankeedame

Wonder how they got the whale on the psychiatrist couch so they could as it about its feelings.


5 posted on 07/02/2008 10:55:46 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: ZULU
I agree, and I think that anyone who eats a whale is basically the same thing as a filthy dog-eater.
6 posted on 07/02/2008 10:56:05 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: yankeedame
The psychological impact of over-hunting on the highly intelligent and sociable animals has been identified as the latest threat to the survival of the species.

This has got to be one of the funniest things I've heard today.

Why do I think that in 20, 30, 40+ years we will still have whales, yet be listening to this same nonsense?
7 posted on 07/02/2008 10:57:20 AM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Folks like this are delusional.


8 posted on 07/02/2008 10:57:22 AM PDT by AZFolks
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To: ZULU

I agree completely — especially with regards to the large whales, which are most endangered.


9 posted on 07/02/2008 10:59:37 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: yankeedame

Blue whales haven’t been hunted by anyone in 21 years - this story is entirely bogus.


10 posted on 07/02/2008 11:00:19 AM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: yankeedame
culling by Japan, Norway and Iceland

Is there some reason why pressure has not been put on these countries to reduce or stop their whaling? If the U.S. were doing it, we'd never hear the end of it.

I am very much against moonbat conservationists, because they distract attention from the real issues. But overfishing and whale extinction are certainly real issues.

11 posted on 07/02/2008 11:00:20 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Red Badger
Good one.

And this, of course, buried near the end of the copy:

'Climate change is also looming as a danger"

Knew I'd find it somewhere (even though the oceans are getting colder).

12 posted on 07/02/2008 11:01:01 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: yankeedame
Paccalet said: 'It may be that these intelligent animals are so exhausted from their combat with humankind that they have simply have given up the fight.

The sad thing, this guy will probably get a government grant for further study and his delusions will be taken as credible science by the media and the liberals.

13 posted on 07/02/2008 11:01:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: yankeedame
Come on now.......you knew this was coming


14 posted on 07/02/2008 11:02:28 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: ZULU
Whales are highly intelligent animals who pose no threat to human beings and make the world a little more intersting and beautiful.

There is no justifiable reason for hunting and killing these creatures.

There appears to be a sharp divergence of opinion regarding this issue. I'm on your side.

Thanks for posting.

15 posted on 07/02/2008 11:03:19 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: yankeedame

I remember hearing exaclty the same thing in the 1970s. Four decades later and whales still aren’t extinct.

Want to watch a liberal’s head explode? Tell him that you favor the rights of indigenous peoples to hunt and eat whales as they see fit without the white man telling them how to live their lives.


16 posted on 07/02/2008 11:04:06 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: yankeedame

The Left is a bottomless pit of stupidity.


17 posted on 07/02/2008 11:04:46 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: yankeedame

Jacques Cousteau farting underwater might say:

“I swear too you, it eez jelly fish!”

So how does Yves no the Blue Whales are bummed out? Are they increasing their dosages of Prozac? Staying home and sleeping a lot? No longer taking part in activities that used to please them?


18 posted on 07/02/2008 11:06:26 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: RexBeach

“no” s/b “know”


19 posted on 07/02/2008 11:07:11 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: yankeedame

I’m still working on my “whale ranch” idea (raise large herds (pods) of whales in the Gulf of Mexico, genetically engineer them for highest possible oil production, have “whale drives” to get them to market, etc, etc).

Whale oil makes a renewable, alternative energy source, you know!


20 posted on 07/02/2008 11:07:54 AM PDT by WayneS (Feed a Polar Bear -- Club a Seal!)
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To: ZULU

Agree. They are highly intelligent as well as dolphins.


21 posted on 07/02/2008 11:08:29 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: ZULU

Is there any justification at all for taking whales? Do they provide anything for which they are the sole source? I know little, if anything, about whaling but have often wondered why anyone does it anymore.


22 posted on 07/02/2008 11:10:19 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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I have a friend whose parrot died after he got divorced and had to work 2 jobs. The parrot got lonely. Sounds corny, but that’s what the guy said, and, well, he’s Navy and not the type to whine. It never occurred to me that a parrot could be lonely, so I suppose this could be true in some instances.


23 posted on 07/02/2008 11:12:15 AM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: jwparkerjr

My guess is that in some cases like the Norweigans, its a way of life and an industry and if they couldn’t whale they would have to find something else. Guess a lot of a dead whale goes into dog food from what I read. Sounds like kind of a waste, no?

Considering how intelligent, beautiful and interesting they really are, I could’t kill one unless my life depended on it - which is most unlikely.


24 posted on 07/02/2008 11:20:31 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: WayneS
Why are the whales depressed? I saw an article a few weeks ago about the amount of antidepressants and other drugs are in our wastewater. They whales should be pretty cheery by now.

Whale oil makes a renewable, alternative energy source, you know!

You're stealing my tagline. :-)

25 posted on 07/02/2008 11:20:59 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: yankeedame

Translation:

“They seem to be going away faster than they are actually getting farmed, so we will just make some stuff up and blame that on whale harvesting also. We will get some ‘leading expert’ with some sob story quotes so it sounds like science and then call the whole story news.”


26 posted on 07/02/2008 11:21:17 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: yankeedame
'It may be that these intelligent animals are so exhausted from their combat with humankind that they have simply have given up the fight.

I think I heard some government scientist somewhere say this about roaches too.

27 posted on 07/02/2008 11:21:17 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter II)
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To: WayneS

N U K E the G A Y W H A L E S for C H R I S T

28 posted on 07/02/2008 11:22:52 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: jwparkerjr

In the old days of whaling, the drive was for whale oil rendered from whale blubber, spermaceti from the oil of sperm whales as a fine machine lubricant, baleen from baleen whales for corsets, and ambergris for perfume and that’s about it.

Don’t know of any big demand for corsets, ambergris or whale oil today.


29 posted on 07/02/2008 11:23:33 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Cicero
Is there some reason why pressure has not been put on these countries to reduce or stop their whaling?

Pressure? You have not heard about the attacks on the Japanese ships. People climbing on them and chaining them selves to them, or catapulting acid at them, or trying to fowl their props with nets? They do it every year.
30 posted on 07/02/2008 11:24:14 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: KarlInOhio

Sorry about that.

Do you want to invest in my whale ranch? I’m looking for partners.


31 posted on 07/02/2008 11:24:34 AM PDT by WayneS (Feed a Polar Bear -- Club a Seal!)
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To: ZULU

I agree. Just this past Saturday we were out on our boat and got to visit a few Orca. I think it was “A”-Pod. Mom, dad and a very little one. They were fun to hang out with for a bit.


32 posted on 07/02/2008 11:25:52 AM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now...... or die.)
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To: yankeedame

Well, hey, I don’t know what the greenies are worried about, after all Whales are air breathers and merely contribute to the worlds CO2 problem every time they come up to take a breath, better for them to die and decrease the CO2 content of our atmosphere!/SAR


33 posted on 07/02/2008 11:26:42 AM PDT by calex59
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To: ZULU

Historical Tidbit:

The best blackpowder bullet lube (reputedly) is a mixture of sperm whale oil and beeswax. So you had to kill whales before you could decimate the buffalo.


34 posted on 07/02/2008 11:27:26 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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To: yankeedame
That was actually a Disney cartoon from long ago:

But it was not mere loneliness, but rather mankind's lack of appreciation for Willie the Operatic Whale's vocal abilities that rendered the cetacean despondent.

35 posted on 07/02/2008 11:28:03 AM PDT by x
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To: Red Badger
Sounds like someone needs a big HUG!
36 posted on 07/02/2008 11:31:30 AM PDT by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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To: ZULU
I've always thought whales were beautiful and endlessly fascinating. The Bible implies that the Lord likes them, too:

(Psalm 104)

There is the sea, vast and spacious,
teeming with creatures beyond number—
living things both great and small.
There the ships go to and fro,
and the leviathan, which Thou hast formed to frolic there.

And from Revelation:

Thou art worthy, O Lord,
to receive glory and honour and power:
for thou hast created all things,
and for thy pleasure they were created.

37 posted on 07/02/2008 11:31:52 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (For Thy pleasure they were created.)
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To: ZULU

Exactly. I have all the respect in the world for the activists who physically interfere with the Japanese “research” whalers.


38 posted on 07/02/2008 11:34:12 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: yankeedame
There was an excellent, gorgeous documentary about whales and sea life. I can't remember the title right now, but I believe it was produced by the French.

Part of the show was the anguishing, agonizing death of a baby blue whale. Only it wasn't killed by man, but by a school of killer whales. I don't see how any of these babies make it past infancy--the killer whales have such a tactical advantage over the slow-moving whale mother, who has no defences. The killer whales harry the pair, exhaust them with chasing, engage in tag-team attacks. You may have seen on TV the way the killer whales treat a hapless seal--playing with him like a cat with a mouse.

Perhaps if the whale had evolved some protections--like having the male of the mating pair stick around--but the superior hunting abilities make the big whale a victim.

39 posted on 07/02/2008 11:35:52 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: ZULU

I’m glad you posted that. I agree. Leave the whales alone.


40 posted on 07/02/2008 11:36:31 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: yankeedame

I thought this was a joke, but these people are serious. Sigh... I’m speechless.


41 posted on 07/02/2008 11:37:03 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: River_Wrangler

Sounds like someone needs a big HUG? These ladies will oblige...........

42 posted on 07/02/2008 11:38:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Mamzelle

I saw that—I think David Attenborough was narrating the program. It was sad. It took hours—6 or more I think for them to finally do the whale in and then they only ate a little bit of it. It was a very good documentary.


43 posted on 07/02/2008 11:39:17 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: ZULU

I didn’t think there was anything that a whale can provide that we don’t have a substitute for now days.

What a shame.


44 posted on 07/02/2008 11:42:26 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I shoot my blackpowder guns - Hawken, Enfield Model 1858,and Thompson Center quite well with modern lubricant and crisco, but I guess back then it was the best. I know they also valued bear grease. At least you could make bacon from the bear and take it yourself with a gun.


45 posted on 07/02/2008 11:42:47 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

OK ZULO, I’ll take issue with your statement.

Just because millions of people live in cities & drive to the store to buy food raised and killed by someone else, does not mean that all people live that way and should not be forced to. The Eskimo and Alaskan native population as well as the Russian coastal populations were there LONG before a safeway was ever built in your city and they NEED these whales as their livelihood and food. They can not travel thousands of miles to a store. There are hundreds of thousands of people who still live off the land. Hunting whales is not just to slaughter them for sport. They use every square inch, from stomach to bone for clothing, tools, shelter and food.

Stop living in your city-dwelling bubble of thinking and stop dictating to subsistence populations how they should live.


46 posted on 07/02/2008 11:43:29 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Without God, there would be nothing. I always find it easier to see the fingerprints of God in nature instead of a city.


47 posted on 07/02/2008 11:46:13 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Exactly. I have all the respect in the world for the activists who physically interfere with the Japanese “research” whalers.

I have no sympathy for animal rights activists who resort to violence, if that's what these folks do, but the hunting of the larger, rare whales is unconscionable and unnecessary.
48 posted on 07/02/2008 11:46:38 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: GovernmentShrinker

So do I


49 posted on 07/02/2008 11:48:50 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: combat_boots

I was watching the show Dead Men Talking a few months ago. They had a case where this guy had some kind of white bird—Cockatoo maybe and they were really close. Well the guy got brutally murdered. The bird actually attacked the attacker. The bird was killed too, but he had enough of the murderer’s DNA on him that they were able to get the guy.


50 posted on 07/02/2008 11:50:38 AM PDT by beaversmom
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