oldie -but GOODIE!
Posted on 07/02/2008 7:19:10 PM PDT by forkinsocket
The Coatesville Police Department continues to receive reports of black city residents robbing, assaulting and raping Hispanic immigrants, according to Police Chief William Matthews.
And, if the activity is not stopped, police say it could trigger the formation of violent Hispanic gangs as a type of cultural protection.
With the city's black community, growing immigrant population - many of whom do not speak English - combined with the city's social issues, "It's not long before you have black-on-brown crime," said Matthews. "And we're seeing the beginning of that."
Matthews, who first spoke publicly about the problem last fall, spoke candidly on the issue Thursday during a community crime meeting.
Matthews said African Americans are targeting Hispanics who are vulnerable. The victims do not speak English and often do not report crimes to the police out of fear their immigration status will be questioned, he said.
African Americans are responsible for robbing, assaulting and raping Hispanics, as well as invading their homes, Matthews said.
"A segment of our community - the African American community - is preying on them," he said.
Matthews said some immigrants do not trust the police in their home countries and the mindset travels with them here.
"They view police as a criminal gang and rightfully so. And they're afraid if they call the police, someone in their family will be deported," Matthews said.
The fear causes crime victims to keep quiet. Therefore, Matthews said, police only know about a fraction of the crimes against Hispanics.
If the issue is not dealt with soon, Matthews said, the city could face the worst crime it has ever seen when Hispanic victims or their relatives resort to forming notoriously violent gangs, like MS-13, to defend their community.
"If we don't get our arms around this problem, organized gangs will fill the vacancies," Matthews said. "There is no violence that's happened in this city that can compare to the violence that could take its place."
To address the language barrier, Matthews recently hired four Spanish-speaking officers.
"That's one of the reasons we tried so hard to get Spanish-speaking officers - we couldn't speak to them. We had to use an interpreter," Matthews said outside Thursday's meeting. "Members of the Hispanic community have come up to me and said thank you because they were able to pull an officer to the side and speak to them."
Matthews said he is putting together an advisory board of Hispanic residents. The panel, he said, will recommend police procedures that would enable immigrants to report incidents without fear of deportation.
The Hispanic population has been steadily growing throughout the county for years. Most Hispanic immigrants in the county are from Mexico, experts say.
Aida Garcia, director of social services for nonprofit La Comunidad Hispana, said she was not surprised to hear about the activity in Coatesville.
"I think this is happening all over right now - all over the county," Garcia said. "This has been happening for a while, except people haven't been talking because they were afraid. This is nothing new."
Immigrants are easy targets, Garcia said, because they often keep the cash from payday in their wallets or their homes. With no Social Security card, immigrants are unable to deposit the cash into a bank account. And the criminals know it.
"A lot of people target them - they know that," Garcia said. "They will go into their homes and steal their money."
And, she said, the more the economic level drops, the more the problem grows.
"It's faster to break into a house. It's easier to target them (than to get a job)," she said. "The more people can't find jobs, the more these people are at risk."
After the crime, often immigrant victims do not report it to police, she said.
"They're afraid to report to the police because if they don't have the legal status they're afraid of being sent back," she said. "They're always hearing about (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) returning people to their home countries."
Garcia said Mexicans come to Chester County to earn money for their families still living in their native country. Young Mexicans come here and mail money back to their parents, she said. And with the high cost of living, she said many immigrants work multiple jobs to support their families.
"What little money they have is just enough for them to survive here," Garcia said. "The younger Mexican immigrants say, 'If I don't send money to Mexico, my parents will die of starvation because there are no jobs in Mexico.'"
Garcia said her organization constantly urges victims to report incidents to local police.
"We tell them to call the police. Even if they're not citizens they have the right to be protected by the law. Their motive is to protect them," she said. "We tell them, 'You go and report these crimes. If someone breaks into your house - call 911.'"
Garcia said it's possible the attacks could prompt the formation of Hispanic gangs.
"It's a horrible feeling walking in fear ... It's a difficult life for a lot of these families," she said.
To prevent gang formation, she said Coatesville needs more after-school programs for the Hispanic youth. Additionally, she said parents need to step up.
"We try to support parents. They have to be responsible, know where their children are and get their children involved in after-school programs to keep them busy so they don't get into trouble," Garcia said. "You need to know where your children are at all times."
In other parts of the county, police departments are seeing occasional similar situations. But, police in West Chester, Avondale, New Garden and Kennett Square say the incidents are not frequent enough to declare any trend in their jurisdictions.
In West Chester, two Hispanic males were beaten and robbed by a group of black males May 21, police said. One victim suffered multiple broken bones to his face, according to police.
One suspect, Ronald E. Lawson, 19, of Chester, was arrested two days later and faces robbery, aggravated assault and related charges, police said.
West Chester Detective Sgt. Louis DeShullo said the case is the only recent one of its kind to be reported in the borough.
DeShullo said law enforcement is aware immigrants can easily become victims of crime.
"It's general law-enforcement knowledge that illegal immigrants are susceptible as victims of crime because of their illegal status. Their lack of biographical history and understanding of the English language and fear of being deported are making them targets of street thugs," DeShullo said. "However, when the immigrants are committing the crimes their weaknesses as victims turn to strengths in hindering their apprehensions."
Earlier this month, there were at least three robberies in Kennett Square and surrounding municipalities in which Hispanics were the victims, according to police.
In the 1980s and early 1990s, black and white American citizens - mostly juveniles - were frequently targeting local migrant workers, according to Kennett Square Police Chief Ed Zunino.
"There was a serious problem, and it was because of the victims' lifestyles," Zunino said.
For example, he said, if a migrant worker went out to a local bar, had a few drinks and then walked home, other bar patrons would know he had a pocket full of cash and would jump him.
"That was a problem back then. But since then migrant workers have adopted more safe lifestyles," Zunino said.
He said immigrants began to travel in groups or by car. They started avoiding risky areas like the railroad tracks at night. They also started carrying less cash and using local banks.
"They were aware that when they went out people were watching them," Zunino said.
The Kennett Square Police Department has three Spanish-speaking officers and a few Spanish-speaking parking-enforcement officers, Zunino said.
He urged immigrants living in the borough to call police when they become crime victims. Zunino said his department does not turn victims over to Immigration. Actually, he said, the department needs the victims to stay in the area until the related case is dealt with.
"We need them for successful prosecution of the case," Zunino said. "Regardless of their legal status, they don't have to fear coming to police."
New Garden Police Chief Larry Dampman said he has not seen crimes against the Hispanic community increase over the past three years.
The department, he said, sees the usual assault cases - domestics or juvenile fights, which are sometimes gang related.
"We have always had some problems. I don't think specific Hispanic problems," Dampman said.
However, Dampman agreed with other officials and said Hispanics tend to be reluctant to report incidents to police.
"We try to encourage them to contact us when they have problems," he said. "I think it's been getting better over the years. We try to explain it's necessary to contact us to correct the problem."
State police trooper Corey Monthei said the Avondale barracks has recently seen a few isolated robberies in the Hispanic community, such as earlier this month along the railroad tracks in the Toughkenamon area.
But the station has not noticed any pattern or frequency to indicate a problem in the Hispanic community.
"I don't think the Hispanic community is being targeted any more than any other ethnicity," he said.
But, he acknowledged the crimes may be underreported.
The Avondale barracks has a handful of personnel who speak Spanish, Monthei said.
Obama voters all- victims and perps.
Been going on for years in NYC. The day laborers cash their checks, and the hood rats from the projects rob them. In the case of NYC, the perps are either black or Nuyorican.
I have a solution. Build the wall!
oldie -but GOODIE!
I have another solution: slap those welfare check collecting hood rats in the sh-thole that is Coatesville who never worked more than 15 hours a week in their life (always showing up late) hard on the head until the get some sense to actually do something with their lives other than breed and rob Mexicans.
if they were legal, why would they have this aforementioned fear?
I had no idea where Coatesville even was. Had to search.
(Pennsylvania for those who also don’t recognize the name)
It was the cheaper hispanic labor that put the poor blacks out of the mushroom business in this area back in the ‘80s.
They were all illegals.
And believe me the blacks weren’t getting rich working in smelly mushroom plants.
Nice, but I seem to remember that many of the blacks who were picking shrooms were coming from the Caribbean, whereas the descendants of blacks who came from the south to settle in the sh-thole known as Coatesville were on the dole from the 1960s on.
Coatesville was once a nice town, it seems to have become a magnet for trouble in the last 15 years or so.
Decent homes were worthless 10+ years ago.
Coatesville, Pa. 1/2 way west of Philadelphia and east of Lancaster.
I was thinking the same thing. Turns out that there’s not much reason to have heard of Coatesville, Pennsylvania, if you’re not from the area.
Population: 10,838.
I think the first time I went to Coatesville was ‘73. It wasn’t that bad, think Chester and Philly as comparisons.
The southern suburbs are loaded with horse farms. Like Brian Roberts, who knows what he’s worth, he ran Comcast.
Area went from dirty steel mill town to troubled small inner city with VERY rich neighbors.
Change is coming....the messiah will bring economic prosperity and social justice to all! He said so ya know!
Coatesville is bad, though not nearly as decrepit as Camden or Chester.
Funny, I had a friend who went to work at Lukens in the 70s.
He fared much better than the guys at Bethlehem Steel at Sparrows Point near Baltimore, a much larger steel mill.
Every BS plant became history years ago. And now the price of steel is way up.
Extremely manic die-hard basketball fans know Coatesville (only?) because it’s the hometown of Richard (”Rip”) Hamilton of the Detroit Pistons and the University of Connecticut Huskies.
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The Sparrow's Point plant is featured in many scenes of "The Wire." One of the main characters had a father who worked there until it closed.
I guess the writer forgot Last years Soiree on Hispanic Gangs...in Chester County!
But the Coatesville Crowd thrives on Robbing College Kids Late at Night!!
(Pennsylvania for those who also don’t recognize the name)
Or you could have just looked at this:
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Pennsylvania; Click to Add Topic
No doubt true.
There are many different ways to prey on others:
prey
Inflected Form(s): preyed; prey·ing
1: to make raids for the sake of booty
2 a: to seize and devour prey b: to commit violence or robbery or fraud
3: to have an injurious, destructive, or wasting effect
That pretty well covers what has become the norm all over America.p>
"Regardless of their legal status, they don't have to fear coming to police."
I wonder if it is legal to add a special real estate tax on Section 8 apartments. Would be an excellent way to clean out Coatesville. Turn off the Section 8 “benjamins” and the town would clean up in a hurry.
Who you gonna call?
Mayate-busters.....
This is ancient history. Trust me, it goes both ways.
The brothers just haven't bitten into the pie enough. They will, then there will be a lot of boo-hooing.
If the cops don't protect you, well then "la eme" or "LK's" will.
Here comes the new boss, just like the old boss.....
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Yep, I find this story surprising. In my old hometown in the very same state, Hispanics don’t seem afraid of anyone, no matter what color. There are a large number of illegals there, and the crime rate exceeds Coatesville’s crime rate.
Also, remember the story of the black college students executed by illegal immigrants in Newark, NJ. (Interestingly, so-called “black leaders” avoided the issue of race around that story.) I was told those killers will have nothing to fear in prison from black gangs because the Hispanic gangs in prison were far more fearsome.
The only reason I buy this story at all is that, as per statistics, Hispanics make up only 10% of Coatesville’s population.
I give this trend in Coatesville another 5 years at most until MTO shows up in town and stomps the wannabe Crips into the pavement when they try to lift Hector's take-home pay.
What can we expect of people who have never needed to get up in the morning, wash and dress appropriately, and get to work (work?) on time? We can expect this mess. It’s not restricted to Coatesville. It can be found wherever the Great Society has worked its magic. Thanks, dems.
Since January, more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.
More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.
But is it true?
When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.
Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.
Wanted for Murder in New York City.
Chicago wanted for Murder
Philadelphia wanted for murder
San Francisco wanted for Murder
New Orleans wanted for Murder
Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC
FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals
There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.
Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.
Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.
Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs
Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.
To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.
All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.
However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens.
Excellent post. Nicely researched. I was just searching the ‘net, and I read one of those articles - the one about Mexican gangs targeting blacks in LA.
Of course, that doesn’t absolve the criminals of their crimes in Coatesville. But, what irks me about this article is: While rightfully condemning the criminals for preying on illegal immigrants, it ignores the fact that the illegals have committed a crime, too. Entering the country illegally is a crime.
A rare case of the truth being spoken. The Police Chief resisted the fear of being sacrificed on the altar of political correctness and said a fact.
Let’s see how long it takes for the race-hucksters to call for his resignation.
Racists!
Wonder how long it will actually take before our so called leaders and the boobs who elect them will realize that most of the social problems in this country relate directly to our stupid welfare system?
susie
What makes you think they dont? It's simply not in their interests to fix any of the "social problems" in this country. There is no money in that.
As far as our *leaders* I think you’re right, but what about the voting boobs?
susie
Black on Brown Crime
I’m just glad they left whitey out of it! (LOL)
Oh, they probably don’t, that’s just not news.
susie
I am beyond disgusted. While I disagree with illegals being here, this predatory behavior of blacks had better end or they’ll end up getting into a fight they can’t win.
On another thread someone mentioned that they were itching for a fight and at this point so am I.
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