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Second Amendment: Obama 'Highly Conservative' in NYT's Eyes?
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| Mark Finkelstein
Posted on 07/03/2008 4:52:53 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: RedEyeJack
They said that Miller’s short, saw-ed off shotgun had no legitimate militia/hunting purpose, I forgot what BS they used. So since he didn’t show up, they ruled in favor of US.
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posted on
07/03/2008 9:12:34 AM PDT
by
wastedyears
(Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
To: Condor51
How did Miller die? I figured he was dead when he didn’t show up in court, when I was reading Unintended Consequences by John Ross.
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posted on
07/03/2008 9:15:41 AM PDT
by
wastedyears
(Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Well, the dying NY Times is simply doing its job of promoting its party’s candidate. As we have seen for decades, that task involves plenty of lying, spinning, distorting, and complete fabrication. In other words, nothing new under the sun.
FRegards,
LH
To: wastedyears
*** How did Miller die? ***
From what I can find, he was shot do death *gang land style* in 1939 before his case hit SCOTUS.
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posted on
07/03/2008 9:59:06 AM PDT
by
Condor51
(I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
To: Old Teufel Hunden
And if Miller's case had been argued before the court, the lawyer could have simply pointed out that shotguns had been used in the military less than 20 years before as a trench clearing weapon during the Great War. Therefore, it is a suitable weapon for the militia. If the court had that argued, they would have most likely ruled in favor of Miller. Absolutely. Same with a machine gun - and Scalia specifically stated so in the Heller opinion. As it is, we've had 69 years of a thoroughly misunderstood and purposely misrepresented right. We'll likely have to endure a few more until the Court corrects all of Miller's inadequacies. Which is, IMHO, a good reason (one of many) to ensure that Obama never becomes the tenant at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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posted on
07/03/2008 10:36:10 AM PDT
by
Ancesthntr
(An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
To: Condor51
Well now, I wonder how that happened...
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posted on
07/03/2008 4:41:52 PM PDT
by
wastedyears
(Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
To: Condor51
“An aside, Trotsky's real name was Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Which begs the question, Why do these Commies change their names? Lenin's was Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov and Stalin's, Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili.”
Simple. For political advantage. To a communist, there is no truth, no right, no wrong, except what advances their political power at any particular time. Most can see an advantage in having a simple strong name that helps ignorant people have a better opinion of them.
To: Condor51; Ancesthntr; Old Teufel Hunden; wastedyears
The story on Miller is even worse than you think. The trial judge was an anti-gun zealot in collusion with the Roosevelt administration. He set up the case deliberately so that there would be no evidence presented supporting the 2nd amendment. He was expected to be rewarded with an appointment to the Supreme Court for his partisan judicial activism, but died before the appointment was made.
Read the article at the link below. Even though it tries to slant things to the left, what actually happened is clear. It is far worse than even John Ross supposed. It is in PDF, which may be why it is not more widely circulated.
It needs to be.
THE PECULIAR STORY OF UNITED STATES V. MILLER
http://kotv.images.worldnow.com/images/incoming/PDF/0801/Law%20Review%20US%20v%20Miller.pdf
To: marktwain
Thanks for the link. Saved to my Flash Drive for future ref.
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posted on
07/04/2008 5:34:10 AM PDT
by
Condor51
(I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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