Posted on 07/03/2008 8:58:58 AM PDT by edzo4
Sony has pulled the latest PlayStation 3 firmware update after complaints that it is causing problems with the game console and sometimes bricking (cannot function in any capacity) PS3s. It's unclear how widespread the problem is. Sony claims problems with its PS3 firmware (2.4) have only affected an isolated number of customers' machines.
There have been a number of people on the Sony PS3 forums who have described problems with the PS3 update made available just yesterday. One camp of PS3 users complain of their consoles are freezing up. Others have had better luck, but report once the firmware has been installed games such as Metal Gear Solid 4 will produce errors delivering a black screen.
No official word yet from Sony on the root of the problem or a fix. Sony will post updates to its official blog as more information becomes available.
As of this morning Sony has not said when it anticipates to have the problem solved or what, if anything, it is going to do to help out the users with bricked systems. In the meantime, you can see the effects of the 2.4 bug here.
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must be running Vista, LOL...
lucky me, never go online with the system just happened to yesterday and get the stupid download update message
Glad I only have the first Playstation.
PS and PS2 games work on PS3
also with PSP I can play my old PS games through the PS3 wireless connection from any wi-fi spot in the world
a feature called remote play which is very cool
Yeah, I’m sticking with my Intellevision until the technology stabilizes and proves itself.
No way, Atari 2600 all the way baby!
Remember when the 2600 was just called the VCS?
Nope, guess I lost some brain cells between now and then.
I’ve never had any firmware update crash anything I’ve ever owned to date.. but with 14 Million PS3’s out there, I can’t believe you could offer a firmware update without any problems at all for some folks somewhere.
Of course, I own a Wii... wouldn’t mind a PS3... but since they removed the PS2 compatibility, and I don’t own a HD TV to enjoy BD disks, doesn’t seem worth the cost.
Yes Yes I know the 80 gig still has PS2 support.. but that’s another $200 on top of the already high $399 for the 40g... so yea, not spending $600 on a game machine.
I have no doubt the PS3 is going to skunk the 360 and take 2nd place for installed base this generation.. but Wii has won this round hands down, Sony has zero chance of catching them this generation.
No, PS2 games do not, unless they have changed it.. when they introduced the 40gig at 399 they removed the PS2 compatibility to make them cheaper. The 80 gig still supports PS2.. but last I heard the 40 gig does not.
Extremely typical? I’d like to see the failure rating on this one.. everything I’ve seen on the PS3 has been stellar for reliability..
360 on the other hand was failing at about a 33% rate at one point.
Surf through some of the support blogs....you’ll see what I mean.
Sorry, let me rephrase.. they removed the HARDWARE backward compatibility when they made it cheaper... they have PS2 emulation software that works for SOME games.
case in point
wii game
ps3 game
FYI - you may wanna give the FAH list a heads-up.
Are you kidding me? You are using Wii Sports, the game that ships with the system that is purely designed to show off the IR capabilities as your basis for the graphical power? No one will argue that the PS3 doesn’t have more graphical power, but come on that’s comical and unrealistic comparison.
I’ve played the PS3, and I’ve played the Wii... The Wii is way way way more fun. In fact, my son and my mother spent over 3 hours playing Wii with each other one day while she was over, both laughing and having a blast the whole time. This is the same woman I couldn’t get to not get frustrated trying to get her to play atari 2600 games when I was my sons age.
I’ve been playing games since the late 70s, and I know young folks who think they are “elite” gamers think graphics make a game, but I don’t remotely agree. There are great 8 bit games that from a pure enjoyment standard are far superior to the vast majority of crap published today for any hardware.
I’ll take original DK, Galaga or MS Pac Man anyday over 99% of the 20-50 hour mega crap put out today, and yes I own full size origional arcade versions of these. Yes there are good games today too, but most of it is complete wastes. Graphics don’t make a game, if they do, its a rather poor game to begin with IMHO.
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy rachet and clank, and yes the graphical power of the device are impressive, but the graphics don’t make a game... and yes when the price point stops being absolutely absurd and I go to HDTV I’ll most likely buy a PS3 to serve the dual purpose of BD player and game system. However the Wii is way more fun for the whole family. Kids don’t just sit there on the couch mashing buttons for hours.. and nothing is more fun than an adult party after a few coctails and breaking out WarioWare Smooth Moves.
What the hell is a PS3? A Laptop or something?
Never mind, I see it is a gen-X/Y/Z toy of some sort..........
I happen to own 3 PS3’s, all updated to 2.40 without incident. I had also pinged my son and my brother to update theirs.
All of them are happily folding proteins, problem free after the update.
Sony pulled the 2.40 update, so if you missed it while it was available, no worries. For those that did update, but are still ok, there should be a new update soon.
I mean, C'MON. Zelda: Twilight Princess is just an incredibly awesome game and the graphics are decent. Though the graphics may not be as great as those on the 360, the game itself is probably better than 90% of the games on the 360.
Agreed, Zelda is absolutely insane.. Metroid Prime 3 is also a great game... yes sadly there is a lot of crap out there for WII... but there was a TON of crap out there for PS2 as well... you get crap when you are the most popular system out there, hell you get crap no matter what.
Is Guitar Hero an insane cult following game because the graphics are great? Of course not, graphics for the game could be nothing more than dots appearing on the screen and nothing more and it would still have a huge following... (Frankly I’m amazed it took someone so damned long to figure out letting kids pretend they are rock stars might just be a winning formula for a game) Don’t think I am remotely against new games, or that I can’t appreciate great graphics, I can.. but they don’t make or break a game.. Gameplay matters.
Does BOOM BLOX break any graphical ground? Nope, but its definately a puzzler that would not even exist without the capabilities that WII brought to the home system. And yes, its fun too.
I freely admit I am not someone who plays games constantly, rarely do I anymore, but when I do, I want them to be fun. The fact I can enjoy them with my whole family as well is a huge benefit. The WII has been so successful because it isn’t a game you play by yourself with the lights out late at night against the computer or against someone over the internet. Its success has largely come because it makes gaming fun for the whole family.
Of course this isn’t overly suprising, Big N has been pushing the gaming as a group activity for years... MARIO PARTY etc... Now they’ve just gotten the hardware to a level where gameplay is intrisic to nearly anyone... no need to learn 14 button combinations to do the simplest things etc. So anyone truly can play.
I give them major Kudos, and they are being greatly rewarded for it.
I’m sure I’ll wind up a PSWii household eventually... when the cost of the PS3 isn’t so rediculous, and I have an HDTV and need a BD player.
Oldschool!
Agreed. My baby-boomer (almost too old to be so classified) parents visited me not long ago and played the Wii while they were there. They went out and bought one the next weekend, and these are people that had never played a video game in their life.
Years and years ago, there was a marketing speaker by the name of Mike Vance (I think he's still around). One of his stories was when he was tasked with selling chainsaws. He went to his marketing people and said "who are we going to get to buy chainsaws?" They said, "well, people that want chainsaws." He said, "we don't want to sell chainsaws to people that want chainsaws, we want to sell chainsaws to everybody."
Microsoft and Sony were the marketing people that said "we'll sell video game systems to people that want video game systems." Nintendo said "we'll sell to everybody." It's working out really well for Nintendo.
My Favorite PS1 game is still to this day one of my top 10 games of all time...
Spyro: The Year of the Dragon
Flying Penguins with Rocket launchers? Rhinoceruses slapping bears in tutus across the ice? What’s not to love?
Later it was replaced with a 2600, and then by a C= 64...
The C= 8 bit days were still the most fun I have ever had programming (yes had the 128 too...) and I do it for a living... if only it were still that much fun...
Damned OO languages and code libraries... let me back at the chip registers and bits I tells ya...
Yep,
Sony and MS continued to go virticle... Nintendo went horizontal.. and they have forever changed the market.
sorry I prefer my video games to present a fantasy type world not replace something I can do any day of the week and your kids are still STANDING inside mashing buttons instead of being out playing golf tennis etc. for real
weee lets play balance the broom
wario ware screenshot
simulating bowling or tennis etc with a stick figure is pretty lame, maybe if I was 5 years old it would entertain me for 5 minutes
but resistance fall of man
drakes fortune
heavenly sword
and metal gear solid 4
are some of the best games produced ever both for graphics and gameplay
as far as price wii bundled with mario galaxy is $399 same as the 40 gig PS3 of course the PS3 includes the HD Blu Ray dvd player which would cost another $300+ to purchase seperately and the wii games are $40 to $70 new same as PS3
resistance fall of man screenshot 
any ways have fun with the broom I have a planet to save from an alien invasion
Yes, we get it you like sitting alone in a dark room alone mashing buttons, I enjoy interacting with other people in the same room while we play games together.
You seem to think that for someone to be pro Wii they must be anti-PS3. Not remotely true. Keep sticking to “graphics are king” arguement. I’ll keep watching Nintendo win the war.
Running around shooting things in a FPS is your thing, great run with it. For me that got tired and boring and repetative after DOOM. Been there, done that, more realistic gore and more buttons to mash doesn’t change it.
Like I said before, the graphics make games argument is a foolish argument. Gameplay is what makes a game worth playing. SONY and MS are doomed to a 2 and 3 finish this generation because they decided that they would just ask the question “WHO CURRENTLY PLAYS VIDEO GAMES?”... and their answer was “PRETTY MUCH SINGLE GUYS 8-35” And they decided to just stay niche... Nintendo said “WHO DO WE WANT TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES?” and the obvious answer from their perspective is “EVERYONE WE CAN”. They then set out to build a system that would be fun and open for anyone. They cast a wide net, while SONY and MS just lowered their baited hooks deeper in the same spots. No suprise who’s winning and why.
If you want a gaming system for the entire family the winner by far, hands down is the WII.. if you just want to sit alone at night mashing buttons in front of a TV with the most realistic gore you can find, then yes, the PS3 is the better choice for you.
Never heard of DROL, but jawbreaker sounds vaguely familiar.
Two of my favorites from back in the C64 days were LOADRUNNER (make and save your own boards, after you complete all 100 or whatever that came with it? Copy them onto another disk and share them with your friends? Awesome)and Jumpman.
the sixaxis controller works very similar to the wii controller but the games are much more than complex than balancing a virtual broom on your virtual hand
graphics do not make a game but good graphics can enhance a game as much as wii's lame graphics can take away from it
why don't you go get your wii fit and lift some more wii weights tough guy
oh and by the way now that the christmas hype is over and people have seen how lame wii really is
check out his head line
"PS3 Catches Up to Wii, Xbox 360 on Life Support"
but if even if wii sold a thousand times as many games as PS3 I would always prefer to have a Ferrari over a Hyundai
what I find much more important than graphics is gameplay
so what "game" are you playing lately
put in grannies teeth?
giving the dog a high five?
or are you using your virtual hula hoop?
OMG these games are soo stupid, I out grew them 20 years before doom came out
and I'm sure you will find these wii games fascinating for years to come, I mean how can you outgrow or get bored with a hula hoop?
maybe after I play REAL GOLF today, I will go kill some dinosaurs
I'm sorry your wife would only let you get a video game system that the rugrats could play too but have fun with the hula hoop
maybe i'll watch a HD blu ray movie while you play PONG 2.0 I mean wii
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
from the PS3 is so much superior to this
Wii game?
No one is going to argue PS3 has better graphical HP and better processing HP.. but when you continue to latch onto games that clearly are not meant or intended to be graphical heights as representatives of the WII ability, you just make yourself look foolish. Gamplay makes games, all the graphics HP in the world can't make a 3d sonic game fun.
what does that have to do with quality?
and I am not so ignorant I can't spell technologies
have fun with your TPH games, BTW, TPH stands for 3rd person hula hoop
3d sonic sucks, as I said grahpics do not make a game
but have you used wii's internet connection to battle you friends around the world and see who can balance the broom longer? or put in grannies teeth faster?
graphics are not the most important game play is
that is why my favorite game currently is GT5
with the logitech driving force wheel
Formula One drivers Jarno Trulli and Kazuki Nakajima, along with WRC champion Sebastian Loeb, have all used Gran Turismo games to learn real life circuits.
Writing for the Japan Times Online, veteran motoring journalist Peter Lyon revealed that several racing drivers used the simulator to learn tracks they were unfamiliar with.
“Even Formula 1 racing drivers such as Toyota’s Jarno Trulli and Williams’ Kazuki Nakajima have been seen practicing in front of a console,” said Lyon. “Whenever a new track comes onto the racing calendar, like Fuji Speedway did last October after a 30-year absence, and drivers cannot get there to practice for real, many fire up Gran Turismo.
“They say it’s the only way to memorise the track layout and braking markers — the points where you must start killing the speed to take an upcoming corner.”
However, the highest praise came from four time World Rally Champion Sebastian Loeb. Recalling his build-up to the Le Mans 23 hours (where Loeb spent a day using GT5 to learn the famous Le Sarth circuit), the French ace said, “It's more than a game now,” adding, “It’s so precise that this 'game' has become a full-blown driving simulator, and just about every driver I know uses it for practice these days.”
so have you raced pac man yet?
and once you put the wii controller in the plastic wheel cutout which button is the gas and which is the brake (you do still have to "MASH BUTTONS" yes?)
maybe someday when real race car drivers need to prepare to race pac man or king koopa on the rainbow planet they will get wii
and which HD DVD format does wiii play HD DVD or BLU RAY? oh right neither...
Again,
You fail to make any point. Are you trying to suggest Mario Kart is not as fun as GT5? Because fun has nothing to do with graphical HP.
You continue to try to compare games that are not remotely the same intended audience or concept, and pretend that’s some justification for this or that.
I’ll be the first to admit, if you want pretend you are driving a true race car, you aren’t going to be playing Mario Kart... however, I’m not aware of anyone confusing a racing simulator, with Mario Kart either.
Quality? You are defining quality as pixels on the screen, I am defining quality as most fun for the most people for the dollar spent. High quality doesn’t mean most graphical horsepower.
Quality is defined as: character with respect to fineness, or grade of excellence. And your definition of fineness and excellence seems to be centered primarily around graphical horsepower. Mine doesn’t, my idea of quality is entertainment and fun.
As to being a movie player, if you’ve got to bring up that argument into a discussion regarding gameplay being what makes games great, then you certainly have lost the argument going that far out of the discussion to try to make a point.
an escape from reality
as for your value arguement I spent $300 bucks and got the BEST gaming platform around and an HD DVD blu ray DVD player FREE!
you spent $300 to pretend to balance a $5 broom
wheeeeeeeeeeeeee I mean Wii
I know the discussion rarely changes with fanboys Nowhere man.. 64 v Apple just never ended....just the age of the opponents gets younger and younger.
On an unrelated question to this thread, I hope that you can help me.
I’ve been thinking of installing a home theatre pc, but I’ve come to realize that by the time I install a blue ray drive and graphics card and everything I’d like, the price of the machine is more than a PS3. But one of the reasons that I’d like the HTPC is because I’d like to be able to stream Netflix movies and watch them on my tv set. I know that the PS3 has a web browser, but is it compatible with streaming, like Netflix?
i have not tried streaming anything in HD but i have seen you tube type videos
i am not that tech savy
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