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The swiftboating of Barack Obama
Guardian UK ^ | 7/3/08 | Zach Roth

Posted on 07/03/2008 9:29:33 AM PDT by pissant

The Republican party's attempts to portray Obama as arrogant could hurt him in the election.

Presidential races generally hinge on character issues - as Republicans understand. That's why, the last two times out, the GOP has won the White House by hammering into voters' minds the idea that the Democratic candidate embodies a particular negative quality. In 2000, Al Gore was depicted (with the help of a lazy and compliant press corps) as a serial exaggerator. Four years later, John Kerry was portrayed as a weak-willed flip-flopper. Ultimately, it was these personal caricatures, far more than any specific policy prescriptions, that doomed the Democrats.

So it stands to reason that Republicans are trying that strategy again this year - especially given how unpromising the issue climate is for their party. Over the last few months, Barack Obama has been variously labelled an "elitist", a naïve softie and simply "out of the mainstream" in his lifestyle and associates. And lately, in what appears to be the centrepiece of the GOP's attacks, Republicans have focused on portraying Obama as arrogant and self-interested.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: 2008; arrogant; issues; larrysinclairslover; obama; propagandawingofdnc; swiftboat; swiftboating; whokilleddonaldyoung
He may be an arrogant POS, but if the GOP wants to put a nail in his political coffin, they will need to expose his marxism and corruption.
1 posted on 07/03/2008 9:29:37 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

If I want an analysis of American politics Fleet Street is the last place I’d look.


2 posted on 07/03/2008 9:31:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: pissant

Swiftboating - Exposing the truth about your opponent.


3 posted on 07/03/2008 9:32:22 AM PDT by lormand ("The Planet is fine, the people are $%#ed up" - George Carlin)
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To: pissant
The Republican party's attempts to portray Obama as arrogant could hurt him in the election.

The Republicans don't have to lift a finger. Obama does it all by himself.

4 posted on 07/03/2008 9:33:58 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("Facts are stubborn things." –Ronald Reagan)
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To: pissant

Like some guy who doesn’t understand the first thing about the term “swiftboating” is going to have credence?


5 posted on 07/03/2008 9:34:57 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: pissant
He may be an arrogant POS, but if the GOP wants to put a nail in his political coffin, they will need to expose his marxism and corruption.

As well as his propensity to smoke crack while having gay sex in limousines and hotels.

6 posted on 07/03/2008 9:35:20 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: pissant
The Republican party's attempts to portray Obama's as arrogance could hurt him in the election.

There, now it makes sense.

7 posted on 07/03/2008 9:35:59 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Soldier soon to be training other Army Soldiers)
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To: pissant
He never so much as wore a scout uniform, so how can he be "swiftboated" as was done to Lieutenant John Kerry?! The Swiftboat Veterans for Truth merely told what they knew of Senator Kerry, both during his brief tour of Vietnam and his antiwar, anti-American escapades afterwords. That is what destroyed Mr. Kerry's chances of becoming president, not his response time or "unwillingness to get down in the mud with his detractors" as some in the nutroots claim.
8 posted on 07/03/2008 9:36:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: pissant


9 posted on 07/03/2008 9:38:19 AM PDT by The Shrew (www.ToSetTheRecordStraight.com/www.swiftvets.com/www.wintersoldier.com-The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: pissant; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
That's why, the last two times out, the GOP has won the White House by hammering into the voters' minds the idea that the Democratic candidate embodies a particularly negative quality.

Hate to alert the lefty writer to this, but there is also the fact that the 'Rat candidate embodies a particularly negative ideology.

10 posted on 07/03/2008 9:38:49 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great tag line, my feelings exactly. DITTO


11 posted on 07/03/2008 9:38:57 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Lancey Howard

You mean you don’t want a crack whore for POTUS?


12 posted on 07/03/2008 9:39:49 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
A lefty Brit newspaper has it's panties in a bunch because their preferred candidate might lose.

Boo f**king hoo.

13 posted on 07/03/2008 9:41:26 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: pissant

He is arrogant. Has anyone else noticed how often he seems to take offense from others in his speeches?

The GOP didn’t need to convince me of this. Obama’s own words told me so. Things like, “He disrespected me” and such.

All that said, I don’t mind an arrogant president. But I mind a marxist one.


14 posted on 07/03/2008 9:42:18 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: skeeter

They don’t understand because they’re not your “typical white person.”


15 posted on 07/03/2008 9:43:14 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: pissant
I guess Democrats never lie they just “exaggerate”. Even so Gore “exaggerated” about his mom, his sister and his dog.

His mom sung him “look for the union label” as a lullaby, when he was in his mid 20’s apparently.

He vowed upon his sisters death from smoking related illness to never have anything to do with tobacco again, except that he did, and when talking to tobacco farmers he said he was proud to have grown it.

He said his mother in law paid more for medication than his dog. But his dog wasn't on any meds.

Gore was a serial “exaggerator”, if the press wasn't so lazy and compliant they would have shown them to be repeated lies.

16 posted on 07/03/2008 9:47:06 AM PDT by allmendream
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To: pissant

Obama can’t be swiftboated. BUT he can be Sinclaired.


17 posted on 07/03/2008 9:49:52 AM PDT by lakeman
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To: lakeman

I think Obama has been sinclaired by more than a few male Lewinsky’s.


18 posted on 07/03/2008 9:51:30 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Cost of the irony of Guardianistas commenting on “attempts to portray” Obama as arrogant?

priceless.


19 posted on 07/03/2008 9:53:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: lormand

It’s odd how Swiftboating became a “bad” word - the guys who knew Kerry in Vnam were simply telling their opinion of him - and the facts regarding his service. Every fact they stated was true and verifiable through other sources.


20 posted on 07/03/2008 9:55:10 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: lakeman

Obama can’t be swiftboated. BUT he can be Sinclaired.


I’m missing something or someone. Who is Sinclair? Excuse my lack of “keeping up” with all this. Thanks.


21 posted on 07/03/2008 9:55:26 AM PDT by unkus
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To: pissant
Swiftboat THIS! (freaking liberal idiots)
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/
22 posted on 07/03/2008 9:56:16 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: unkus; All

I want you to listen to me. I did not have
"sexual relations" with that fellow (Larry Sinclair),
nor were we ever alone together.

Larry Sinclair on youtube claiming to have performed "oral" on Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

23 posted on 07/03/2008 9:57:25 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: lakeman
"Sinclaired"?


24 posted on 07/03/2008 9:57:47 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ETL

WOW- Is this really true?


26 posted on 07/03/2008 10:03:11 AM PDT by unkus
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To: boomop1

That tag line should be a bumper sticker.


27 posted on 07/03/2008 10:06:29 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: unkus

How the heck should I know? Ask Pissant.


28 posted on 07/03/2008 10:07:25 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: pissant

Yes. His arrogance is only the tip of the iceberg.


29 posted on 07/03/2008 10:12:14 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: ETL

OK


30 posted on 07/03/2008 10:18:15 AM PDT by unkus
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To: SoldierDad

Forget the fact that he may be portrayed as a flaming liberal as reason enough not to vote for him.


31 posted on 07/03/2008 10:19:08 AM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be a Jackie Robinson, not a Jackie come lately.)
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To: pissant

“The Audacity of a Dope” running for president deserves to have the truth exposed (aka swiftboating). If we could but collectively dump liters of waste upon his head.


32 posted on 07/03/2008 10:22:03 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: pissant
Here's some more "swiftboating" of John Fonda Kerry!

John Kerry, from his book, The New Soldier...

"We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans' Day waving small [American] flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.'..."

"The John Kerry quote comes in the epilogue to "The New Soldier," the book put out by Vietnam Veterans Against the War [VVAW]. The book's cover features a group of not-particularly sober-looking anti-war protesters (vets, presumably) flying the American flag upside down [while mocking the historic flag raising event at Iwo Jima]":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1203164/posts

Note John Kerry's name at top right of The New Soldier

John Kerry: "...if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

"Under questioning from the Committee, Kerry referred to the democratically elected government of South Vietnam -- our allies -- as a "dictatorial regime, the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime," while respectfully calling the North Vietnamese communist regime we were fighting by its oxymoronic official name, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and the murderous Viet Cong's political arm by their preferred "Provisional Revolutionary Government.":
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/lindachavez/lc20040428.shtml

From Frontpagemag.com:
During the question and answer period following his April 22, 1971 televised testimony before the Armed Services Committee of the United States Senate, Kerry said:

"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

Even today, knowing what we know about the Vietnamese communists and about John Kerry, it is difficult to grasp the enormity of what he was confessing to. As an American citizen and a member of the United States Navy—while his former comrades and countless others were fighting and dying in Vietnam at the hands of Viet Cong guerillas and North Vietnamese regulars—Kerry consorted with the Viet Cong representative and discussed (“talked with,” he euphemized) her “plan.” That obscene plan included a trade: the return of our POWs for a withdrawal of American forces.

As John O’Neill expressed in his important bestselling book Unfit For Command, “. . . America could have its POWs back only if we agreed that we lost, then surrendered, and then set a date to leave.”

Kerry’s wartime trip to Paris was confirmed about six months ago by a campaign spokesman, who tossed it off as a mere “fact-finding” excursion.

Yet Kerry was apparently so impressed with the “facts” he found in company with the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese that a few months after his return from Paris he had the effrontery to urge the President of the United States to accept his communist hosts’ plan for 'peace' in Vietnam."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15127

"We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans' Day waving small (American) flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.' "

So John Kerry would have a difficult time marching with those waving small American flags yet had NO problems marching with those waving HUGE VIETCONG FLAGS?


"Pictured above: VVAW-supported demonstration during the Washington Spring Offensive, April - May 1971. Notice the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong flags."

June, 1970 -- Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), a national veterans group that is part of the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. The PCPJ is a broad coalition of local and national organizations, including the Communist Party, USA, "committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina, and poverty, racism and injustice at home." The VVAW, CCI and PCPJ all have headquarters at 156 Fifth Avenue in New York City. VVAW Executive Secretary Al Hubbard, a former Black Panther, is also on the coordinating committee of the PCPJ. Hubbard soon appoints Kerry to the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the normal election process.
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline


http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm

November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline

Fonda made the following statement at the University of Texas:
"We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses. Whether the transition is peaceful depends on the way our present governmental leaders react. We must commit our lives to this transition ...... We should be very proud of our new breed of soldier. It's not organized but it's mutiny, and they have every right." --Karen Elliott Dallas Morning News December 11, 1971

PHOTO: "Jane Fonda and John Kerry at an anti-war rally in Valley Forge, Pa. (Leif Skoogfors/Corbis)"
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry.asp

John Kerry and the VVAW--Hanoi's American Puppets?
"Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/staticpages/index.php?page=puppets

Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) Complete FBI files:
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=VVAWFBI


33 posted on 07/03/2008 10:22:38 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: pissant
In 2000, Al Gore was depicted (with the help of a lazy and compliant press corps) as a serial exaggerator. Four years later, John Kerry was portrayed as a weak-willed flip-flopper.

Well, what's your point?

34 posted on 07/03/2008 10:26:04 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: pissant

I’m going to bitterly cling to my guns and religion. :P


35 posted on 07/03/2008 10:26:30 AM PDT by Free Descendant
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To: pissant
The Swiftboating of Barack Obama

Here, let me help that title...

The Swiftboating Truth of Barack Hussein Obama

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON, BUT DO NOT WANT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


NOBAMA '08 SIGHTED IN EMMETT, ID, JULY 2ND, 2008

36 posted on 07/03/2008 10:27:12 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Free Descendant
I’m going to bitterly cling to my guns and religion.

Naah, nothing arrogant or condescending there.

37 posted on 07/03/2008 10:28:44 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: pissant

“Swiftboating” = telling the truth about a commie/pinko/liberal/fellow traveler


38 posted on 07/03/2008 10:30:32 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: pissant
"The tactic could prove particularly effective with those white working-class voters we've all heard so much about lately. It was this group that was most sceptical about Obama's promise of a new kind of politics during the Democratic primaries. They also tend to be low-information voters - a group that Newsweek recently proclaimed this year's "It demographic" - meaning they're more likely than their better-informed brethren to be swayed by negative character attacks."

Oh, we stupid Crackers. Too dumb to study the candidate and make a logical decision based on reason, we cling to our guns and religion and vote solely on rumor and gossip.

Unlike the 98% of blacks who are voting for "the one" only after careful examination and dissection of his policies, associations and experience.

39 posted on 07/03/2008 10:35:41 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: Eagles6

It’s only racism if 53% of crackers prefer someone other than Obama. It is simply healthy solidarity that 90% of the brothers want Obama.


40 posted on 07/03/2008 10:38:49 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
John Kerry was portrayed as a weak-willed flip-flopper.

No no no no. His positions were portrayed as being nuanced. Yea. Nuanced. That's the ticket ...

41 posted on 07/03/2008 10:41:11 AM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: pissant
Al Gore was depicted (with the help of a lazy and compliant press corps) as a serial exaggerator

Ok, no need to continue. This is clearly a joke, or a barf alert worthy piece of eurosh*t.

42 posted on 07/03/2008 10:54:21 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: pissant

The first sentence should read:

Barry [”can’t make a speech without a teleprompter”] Hussein obama’s attempts to portray himself as arrogant could hurt him in the election.


43 posted on 07/03/2008 10:59:26 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for any Democrat from BO on down the ticket is a vote for $10 a gallon gas.)
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To: pissant
Speaking of speaking of the Obamas..

I wonder what it would be like if someone made a comedy album.. er, CD, like Vaughn Meader's mega hits. I think he was under thirty when "The First Family" was released in 1962.

Vaughn Meader answered what some called the "star-struck American public, [thirst] for all-things-Camelot." Millions loved JFK and Meader's impersonation of JFK. Meader's LP comedy records sold by the millions. The White House did finally let him know, Thanks but no thanks.

I wonder -- I bet today if someone tried that with Obama in the White House he'd get charged with a hate crime.

Anything less than worshipfulness is hate mongering -- back in JFK days the Tenth Amendment was considered code words for racism. Now the First Amendment is deemed code words for hate.

44 posted on 07/03/2008 11:27:06 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: allmendream
“Gore was a serial “exaggerator”, if the press wasn't so lazy and compliant they would have shown them to be repeated lies.”

Algore’s greatest achievement has been overlooked. Invention of the Internet.
I can't understand why those swift boaters would portray algore as an exaggerator.

45 posted on 07/03/2008 11:42:08 AM PDT by Leo58
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To: pissant

Some animals are more equal than others.


46 posted on 07/03/2008 12:12:44 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: pissant

Seriously wrong facts.

Al Gore did himself in by being a headcase throughout the campaign on top of his past “breaks with reality” while VP.

Kerry was not exposed as a “week-willed flip-flopper”. He was exposed as an absolute fraud through and through.

Lazy writing indeed.


47 posted on 07/03/2008 12:29:10 PM PDT by sawzall
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To: pissant

Obambi is being swiftboated? Does that mean some other Chicago rabble-rousers have come forward to show proof that Barry Obama didn’t really file a grievance (or whatever it is that a “neighborhood organizer” does) when he claimed to have been saving Chicago?


48 posted on 07/03/2008 2:17:29 PM PDT by philled ("I prefer messy democracy to the stability of tyrants." -- Howar Ziad, Iraqi Ambassador to Canada)
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To: philled

‘A taxpayer voting for Obama

Is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders’


49 posted on 07/03/2008 2:27:25 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: lakeman

You know it. Sinclair was interviewed for 2 solid hours thursday on Talkstarradio.com Neighborhood 21, and he also took calls from his rabid opponents and held beat them .

Obambi has got problems.


50 posted on 07/04/2008 11:21:26 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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