Global Warming Alarmists Push to Create New Government Agency (Drudge Developing)

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[rabscuttle385]

"Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data," concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. "Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions."

[Blood of Tyrants]

Liberals can never have too many agencies. Even if the agencies greatly overlap each other. As it is, we could probably eliminate 75% of the agencies in the federal and state governments and never miss them.

[wbill]

"Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions."

howzabout.... "Is this really happening the way we're assuming it is?" or "If the Earth is indeed warming, how much are Man's activities responsible for it?"

There. Can I have a grant?

[DBrow]

“Algore will want this appointment to be Czar of the Global Warming Hoax Administration. “

I doubt it, he would not want the oversight and accountability.

Plus, he’s made close to $80,000,000 over the last eight years pushing his scam, that would all stop if he were the Gaia Czar.

If this comes to fruit it will be some relatively unknown professor, who will appoint the “correct” political hacks in his third tier of management (the level that writes policy).

[BigFinn]

This is just a ponzie scheme to make billions of dollars for the likes of AlGorians. The weather is essentially controlled by sun activity. The sun spikes, so do the temps on earth. Block out the sun, and voila it gets cold.

Yes, the temperature is elevated these days but it has absolutely nothing to do with man made emissions. One volcano eruption emits more pollutants than man ever could. Seems to me the earth handles those just fine.

Another government agency to rob your wallet. When will this stop?

Al sees his 15 minutes of fame and is capitalizing on it. If he was serious, he would be living in a log cabin, growing his own food and riding his bike. Until he does he should be put out to pasture where he belongs.

[ETL]

"Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data," concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. "Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions."

THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html

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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation periods. Now look very carefully at this relationship between temps and CO2 levels and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the graph indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000 year period actually lagged behind temperature increases ...by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these past glaciations. Yet Gore dishonestly and continually claims otherwise. Furthermore, the subsequent CO2 level increases never did lead to additional warming, the so-called "runaway greenhouse effect" that Al Gore and his friends keep warning us about. -ETL

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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago [Myr]. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present." [also see 180 million years ago, same thing happened]:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M

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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/

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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

And naturally, the solution involves government...

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[LS]

Yep. They know that the science has already turned, and have to drum up hysteria and entrench policies before people get wise.

[hermgem]

Too much tax exempt monies floating around, sprouting for the need to justify existence.
Our basic underlying problems are people's existence under this tax exempt status, and their need for publicity to justify existence.

[rottndog]

Oh dear, now we’re all going to get to live on Planet Gore!

Of course it will now be known as Red Planet Gore...

[ZGuy]

That their acronym would not be that far from ODESSA seems appropriate.

[BallyBill]

Next step for them is to form a Solar System Government Agency to rule The Sun and all planets.

Not because of their God Like egos, but for our own good.

[traviskicks]

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[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Why not a cabinet level position?

“Global Warming Czar”

[JennysCool]

Global Warming Alarmists Push to Create New Government Agency

The Department of Crap?

[browardchad]

Notice the (ahem) coincidence that they're calling for this on the same day as the first tropical storm of the season has formed off Cape Verde (which will most likely go nowhere near land).

The meteorologists can barely conceal their glee, since it's been slim pickings on the impending hurricane disaster meter for the past two years. I just read one blog that was ecstatically predicting that this year would be worse than 2005. May they all rot in the ultimate place of GW -- hell.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

“government” scientists?

[EyeGuy]

Best defense is a strong offense.

Is there a conservative (”Republican” designation intentionally omitted) with enough balls, to counter this socialist crap by introducing legislation to eliminate the EPA. For good measure, the bill should also include shuttering HUD, the Dept of Education and the National Endowment for the Arts.

[OldNavyVet]

You’re right about “global warming” theory being BS.

We live on a planet that was “spun from dust” about 4,500,000,000 years ago.

Since then, a lot has happened, and there’s more to come.

There are better things to worry about than “global warming”; and electing nonsense liberals is one of them.

[kbennkc]

Blow up the Sun , before it is too late .