Posted on 07/03/2008 3:57:11 PM PDT by bugseye
The lead character in the Pixar film “WALL-E” is both an acronym (Waste Allocation Load Lifter—Earth class) and a lonely robot with a personality. While Pixar has mastered the art of animation, it is the implicit message this film conveys which makes it much more than a mere cartoon.
Some conservatives have written the film off as anti-capitalist propaganda. If the intent of capitalism is to cater to the basest instincts of the human heart, requiring us to indulge our every whim and desire, leading to a dependence on government, then I guess I, too, am an anti-capitalist. However, capitalism can only arrive at that end when all of the restraints of personal responsibility are removed. In this sense, WALL-E is a brilliant exposure of liberalism’s flaws.
WALL-E is the story of what results when a liberal vision of the future is achieved: government marries business in the interest of providing not only “the pursuit of happiness” but happiness itself, thus creating gluttonous citizens dependent on the government to sustain their lives. The result is a humanity consisting of self-absorbed, isolated individuals with no affection for others, who thus defy what it means to truly be human.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
>>WORLD: The depiction of humanity is pretty stark in this movie.
STANTON: Well, when I started outlining humanity in the story, I asked myself: What if everything you needed to survive—health care, food—was taken care of and you had nothing but a perpetual vacation to fill your time? What if the result of all that convenience was that all your relationships became indirect—nobody's reaching out to each other? A lot of people have suggested that I was making a comment on obesity. But that wasn't it, I was trying to make humanity big babies because there was no reason for them to grow up anymore.<<
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/14127
Indictment of liberalism eh? Who destroyed the world that Wall E was stuck on?
Too much garbage. Waste Management is a huge field.
It’s a good, well-crafted movie with a strong liberal indoctrination.
Saw it the other night. OK, but not close to Cars or The Incredibles.
From the song 2112 by Rush:
We’ve taken care of everything
The words you hear, the songs you sing
The pictures that give pleasure to your eyes
It’s one for all and all for one
We work together, common sons
Never need to wonder how or why
We are the Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Our great computers fill the hallowed halls
We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx
All the gifts of life are held within our walls
Look around at this world we’ve made
Equality our stock in trade
Come and join the Brotherhood of Man
Oh, what a nice, contented world
Let the banners be unfurled
Hold the Red Star proudly high in hand.
We are the Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Our great computers fill the hallowed halls
We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx
All the gifts of life are held within our walls
I love animated movies, and saw WALL-E the day it opened. I think it is great and bound to be a Disney Classic. If there are political overtones/undertones, the kids wont know. Just relax and enjoy the show — it is well worth seeing on the big-screen.
What are you talking about? It’s critical of a massive goverment that caters to one’s every need.
Love Rush, seeing them on the 19th in Bristow VA! Neal Pert is, or used to be a big Ayn Rand disciple.
I saw it and wanted to be charmed but thought that overall it was positively boring. It was preachy too. Bah, humbug, lol!
Teenagers?
Cars was outstanding. The lights at Flo’s cafe blinked in the correct firing order of a Ford Flathead V-8.
WALL E is a warning to us all. It shows what will happen to the planet if all of our homes consumed as much as algore’s mansion.
Incredibles was great!
>> What if everything you needed to survive—health care, food
So now it’s: Health Care, Food, Water, Clothing, Shelter ...
EVA as the white dove (olive branch)
Earth flooded with trash
Space ship as Ark (no animals though, odd)
The movie doesn't talk about government, I believe. The BnL is a private corporation, not government (the reviewer believes that it's a merge of government and private company, which I don't think is true). The list of liberal themes in the movie that I can remember:
- obesity: as if rich people who went to the space cruise couldn't see that being excessively fat is bad.
- global warming: so strong that it doesn't need any explanation.
BTW, did I get it wrong? I thought the space ship was simply a cruise ship that was trapped in space, not something like Noah's Ark...
i did not think there was more tha one person that recognized that
No, from the scenes they showed of the ‘President’ back on Earth, it made it sound as if the BnL company was the government by that time (Kinda like the sports drink company in Idiocracy), and the passengers on the ship were there originally as a plan to repopulate the Earth. They were just sent off to wait until the planet was ready to be settled again.
The BnL world is the worst synthesis of mindless US consumerism and "progress-at-all-costs" Red Chinese destruction of the environment.
The Incredibles was a conservative movie...:)
2525 by Zager & Evans
In the year 2525
If man is still alive
If woman can survive they may find
In the year 3535
Ain’t gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lies
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today
In the year 4545
Ain’t gonna need your teeth, won’t need your eyes
You won’t find a thing to chew
Nobody’s gonna look at you
In the year 5555
Your arms hanging limp at your sides
Your legs got nothing to do
Some machine’s doing that for you
In the year 6565
Ain’t gonna need no husband, won’t need no wife
You’ll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube, whoa-oh
In the year 7510
If God’s a-comin’ He oughta make it by then
Maybe He’ll look around Himself and say
Guess it’s time for the judgment day
In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He’ll either say I’m pleased where man has been
Or tear it down and start again, whoa-oh
In the year 9595
I’m kinda wonderin’ if man is gonna be alive
He’s taken everything this old Earth can give
And he ain’t put back nothin’, whoa-oh
Now it’s been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what he never knew
Now man’s reign is through
But through eternal night
The twinkling of starlight
So very far away
Maybe it’s only yesterday...
This reminds me of how libs deal with people they don't like (conservatives through weapon laws and other laws along those lines.)
So yeah it was a conservative show.
just remember, Brawndo's got what plants need!
^^^^^^^^^The BnL world is the worst synthesis of mindless US consumerism and “progress-at-all-costs” Red Chinese destruction of the environment.^^^^^^^^
That works for conservatives like you and I, but out in the real world the lib media still have a majority, and factor in hollywood they still have a huge advantage.
Let me put it another way. The creators of this film, when they idealized the garbage filled world did not have red china in mind. They had wasteful americans in mind. You know as well as I do that’s how liberals think.
And with all the media propaganda out there, that’s how it’ll be taken by more viewers.
All Dystopian fiction is critical of present day society in some way (Dr Strangelove, Idiocracy). The world of the film is one in which government and corporate structures are indistinguishable. As I said earlier suggesting that waste management is an important field and that people spend too much time on their couch taking in what’s being fed to them by mass media is a perfectly legimatiamte claim.
^^^^^^^^^^^All Dystopian fiction is critical of present day society in some way (Dr Strangelove, Idiocracy).^^^^^^^^
Sure........ even I am critical of present day society in some ways. But I don’t do so with liberal viewpoints or liberal talking points.
^^^^^^^^^^^ As I said earlier suggesting that waste management is an important field and that people spend too much time on their couch taking in what’s being fed to them by mass media is a perfectly legimatiamte claim.^^^^^^^^^^^
You should take a stroll down liberal-messageboard-lane some time. They complain about mass media almost as much as we do. It is a legitimate claim, but one that’s not locked into being ours.
The movie is also pro-life, pro-heterosexual....
Did actually you see the film? What liberal talking points does it spout? You could make the case that any plot at all which involves some sort of global catastrophe would involve some sort of liberal doomsday scenario.
I agree with you... The "President" was the head of BnL, not a government leader. Although, with the mock seal and all, he did seem to have that air.
I saw the movie as more of an indictment of
1) The ever increasing reliance on electronic rather than direct communication, and
2) The general disregard for the health of the planet. (BS, if you ask me).
The movie implied that something horrible had happened. It wasn't clear what? Could have been nuclear way, could have been over-heating... But, the idea of finding the plant was that "photo-synthesis" had re-started".... implying, that somehow, it had stopped???
The best part of the movie, IMHO, was the song and animation of the credits at the end... stick around.
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