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U.S. Sen. Jesse Helms has died
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Posted on 07/04/2008 7:30:57 AM PDT by jern

jesse helms has passed away

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To: papasmurf
There'll be a party at my house when the "Chappaquiddick Kid" takes a dirt nap!

That might be construed as an honor.
My hope is to find out about the event years after the fact, to be dismissed as totally inconsequential.

201 posted on 07/04/2008 3:06:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: jern
I became a fan of Jesse Helms when I moved to Raleigh as an NCSU freshman at which time he gave the evening commentary on WRAL-TV.

Thank you, Senator Helms, for all you have done for NC and our country. You are a true statesman in every sense of the word and we'll miss you. May God bless you and your family.

202 posted on 07/04/2008 3:09:02 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: jern

Jesse Was a damn good patriotic American.

You know a man is good when the left media hates him so much it gets their goat.

Rest in peace Jesse.


203 posted on 07/04/2008 3:10:35 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMATIZATION - A Liberals Religion ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Gideon7

Madeleine Albright once said of Helms, he “was the kindest, most infuriating, politest, most aggravating and nicest politician I had to deal with in the United States Senate.”

That observation, coming from a liberal, is a wonderful illustration of what it means to be a gentleman while standing firmly for one’s beliefs. One could hardly aspire to anything higher in public discourse.


204 posted on 07/04/2008 3:13:42 PM PDT by sc70
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To: prairiebreeze
Perhaps in some cases. But the point is that the driveby media had that drivel up as soon as the news broke. And they would never eulogize a democrap in such a passive-agressive accusatory manner.

I totally agree.
That's why I believe that the only meaningful response to it should by --- who else?

Captain Obvious!

205 posted on 07/04/2008 3:15:49 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: jern

Some conservatives lament that we don’t have a hundred stalwarts like Helms in congress. I don’t believe it takes a hundred. I believe if we had even one with the outspoken courage of Jesse Helms, it may not turn everything around, but it would surely inspire others to speak out.

We desperately need the sort of leadership that Jesse Helms gave us. I think the country would be amazed at how many would rally around him.

I appreciate very much North Carolinians for consistently supporting him through the years. North Carolinians have ever reason to be proud.


206 posted on 07/04/2008 3:52:44 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Nextrush

I’m with you.

I don’t like the pandering either and being forced to accept that we know is not true and to hear McCain say that was his worst moment.

geez.


207 posted on 07/04/2008 4:00:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (these are dark days politically)
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To: sc70

Albright and Helms were actually pretty good friends from from I understand.


208 posted on 07/04/2008 4:22:55 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: jern

God Bless you, Jesse, you did much for your country.


209 posted on 07/04/2008 4:25:00 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: All

When I heard this the first thoughtthat came to my mind was wow and he died on the 4th of July. Sometimes things happen like when Jefferson and Adams both died on the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. When things like this happens you just think that a high power is pulling a few strings shall we say. When you have a 30 year career in the Senate your bound to make a few enemies and Helms did. You can only hope that you make the right enemies and Helms absolutely did. People have said today that Helms played a great role in reviving the Reagan 1976 campaign because NC was Reagan’s first primary victory when his advisors were suggesting that he get out. May he rest in peace.


210 posted on 07/04/2008 4:28:51 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: jern

Rip to you Senator Helms. We can use a lot more like you. Prayers to the good Senator, his family and friends.


211 posted on 07/04/2008 5:43:02 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: jern

God bless Jesse Helms!


212 posted on 07/04/2008 5:57:05 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: jern

Nothing to post...his life speaks for itself.


213 posted on 07/04/2008 7:09:18 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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To: jern

A giant has passed. RIP, Senator Helms. May God bless you.


214 posted on 07/04/2008 7:31:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
fkabuckeyesrule wrote:

Albright and Helms were actually pretty good friends from from I understand.

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Albright and Helms did become friends although he never yielded an inch in his conservative principles and she remained, and remains, a liberal. Senator Helms was able to keep the personal and political separate, something that's not easy to do (I struggle with it myself).

That's why he was a gentleman worthy of admiration and emulation.

215 posted on 07/04/2008 8:12:44 PM PDT by sc70
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To: sc70; All

WRAL has had segments about Senator Helms running on their website all day - and on their evening news.

Best one seen so far is Senator Helm’speech about deciding to not run for his sixth term in the Senate - in 2001 (I believe).

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/3155829/

Senator Helms’ staff was THE BEST ever! They demonstrated what EVERY government employee should do when dealing with the issues brought to them by the citizens whose hard earned tax dollars pay their salaries.

Senator Helms credits “these young people” who would work through the night and on weekends in order to meet the inquiries / needs of citizens who sought help from his office.. Jesse loved those young people - all of them - and spoke so highly of those who came to work in the “
Senator Helms’ family”....giving THEM credit for making him such an effective servant of his beloved North Carolina citizens - ALL citizens.

Then, Senator Helms thanked all those who worked for, supported, prayed for, and voted for him in each election. He said he knew apart from those prayers, there was no way he would have had the privilege to serve in the Senate all those terms.

Shall we who claim to be believers not follow this great man’s humble admission of his dependence on the prayers of many for his poliitical victories - shall we not honor his life and death by recommitting ourselves to pray for and work for those who might be able to come in and serve our nation = hopefully in NC - but also in other national elections - state elections - etc.

Jesse Helms is in the presence of His Lord Jesus Christ - and is free indeed! Praise God for Jesse Helms’ life!


216 posted on 07/04/2008 8:40:14 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: prairiebreeze

Guess they’ve never heard of “Jessecrats”.


217 posted on 07/04/2008 8:50:12 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: jern
One of the best senators I've ever had the privilige to meet. He was a real nice old school gentleman, and an even better senator.

We could use someone in the senate with even 1/2 of the foreign policy expertise that Senator Helms had. He was right on NAFTA. He was right on GATT. He was right on China. He was right on communism. We need that voice on the right and it was never replaced when Senator Helms retired.

218 posted on 07/04/2008 8:50:40 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: jern

My first senatorial vote was for Senator Helms, cast in Fetzer Gym at the UNC campus. I think mine was one of nine votes he received...

Sen. Helms will be surely missed. In my mind he was the last great principled Conservative Senator. You always knew *exactly* where Sen. Helms stood on an issue, whether you agreed with him or not. He loved his fellow North Carolinians, and he loved the men and women of the military (and their families!).

Between Helms, Heston, and Buckley, this year has been pretty rough. Three of my heroes gone in six months.


219 posted on 07/04/2008 9:35:46 PM PDT by MikeD (We live in a world where babies are like velveteen rabbits that only become real if they are loved.)
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To: jern

Passed away on the Fourth of July. Fitting end for a truly Great American Patriot! Prayers of comfort for the Helms family.


220 posted on 07/04/2008 9:39:13 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: jern

RIP


221 posted on 07/04/2008 10:47:03 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: jern

Ok, somebody else may have said it, but I am not going to wade through over 200 replies to find out.

John Adams and Thomas Jefferson both died on the 4th of July, and now Jesse. God’s way of saying, “Well done, good and faithful servant”? Yeah, I think so.

Rest now in the bosom of Abraham, Jesse. You were one of the best.


222 posted on 07/04/2008 10:57:22 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: jern

His WHITE HANDS ad drove pro-quota leftists nuts - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIyewCdXMzk


223 posted on 07/05/2008 12:06:07 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Without Helms and The Congressional Club Reagan probably would have suffered another loss there, for sure. Jesse was never afraid to buck the trend and do the right thing, even if it meant the emnity of fellow Republicans (think Alan Simpson) who were much less inclined toward his viewpoint.


224 posted on 07/05/2008 2:30:59 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: blackdog

That may be true, but unfortunately that leads to the retention of ‘ugly’ senators in Louisiana, Arkansas, Virginia, etc.


225 posted on 07/05/2008 2:37:38 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: Borges

What about the Senator from Alabama, Sessions? hE’S good.


226 posted on 07/05/2008 6:08:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
RIP I’m sure the Moonbat blogs will go nuts over this

It's a sure barometer measuring the greatness of a man.

227 posted on 07/05/2008 6:16:51 AM PDT by fwdude (If marriage can mean anything, then marriage means nothing.)
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To: jern
"The destruction of this country can be pinpointed in terms of its beginnings to the time that our political leadership turned to socialism. They didn't call it socialism, of course. It was given deceptive names and adorned with fancy slogans. We heard about New Deals, and Fair Deals and New Frontiers and the Great Society." - From a Helms editorial at WRAL-TV in Raleigh.

RIP, Senator Helms.

My flag here on the Albemarle is at half staff.

228 posted on 07/05/2008 6:40:07 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (Now is the time for all good men [and women] to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: jern

A great American that lived a full life dies on Independence Day. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson did the same.

He was opposed to the UN, was pro-life, pro-gun, against racial preferences, one of the senators that actually voted for conservative government almost his entire career.

May God Bless his family and he will be missed.


229 posted on 07/05/2008 8:16:57 AM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: jern

God Bless him. He did more to restrain the left in Congress than most anyone else.


230 posted on 07/05/2008 9:41:46 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded; All

“...Helms was an outspoken conservative politician whose attacks against communism, liberal elitism and some of the civil rights legislation made him one of the most controversial and loathed prominent political figures in North Carolina history...”

God bless you Senator Jesse...thank you for your unflinching American Patriotism. My prayers to your family.


231 posted on 07/05/2008 9:43:47 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: peggybac

Lots of bias.

I heard this little “gem” on National pubic radio:

Helms well known for his conservative principles which upheld segragation and strong opposition to the UN.

Wrong...as usual.

This is from his book “Here’s Where I Stand”:

“favored voluntary racial integration that would have come about without pressure from the federal government, or from civil rights protests” — which he said only sharpened racial antagonisms.

He was mostly right.


232 posted on 07/05/2008 9:49:28 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: jern
Compromise, hell! ... If freedom is right and tyranny is wrong, why should those who believe in freedom treat it as if it were a roll of bologna to be bartered a slice at a time?"
Thank you, Senator, and Rest in Peace.
233 posted on 07/05/2008 10:08:56 AM PDT by SmithL (Celebrate Independence - and those who bought it for you!)
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To: jern

I wonder if purgatory is segregated.


234 posted on 07/05/2008 11:45:10 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (So sue me.)
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To: jern
A true American, A true Patriot, A true Conservative has passed.


RIP Jesse Helms...
235 posted on 07/05/2008 12:46:03 PM PDT by rottndog (Globull Warming "Science" = garbage in, gospel out.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“RIP I’m sure the Moonbat blogs will go nuts over this”

Yeah, who cares. let them waller in their own filth.


237 posted on 07/05/2008 5:44:44 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: NewYorker447

I don’t know where you got your quotes - but I know most of them are from way back in the past of Senator Helms life - most of them from the 1950’s and/or 60’s is my guess...and then I do not know they are his quotations at all. You did not give any linked sources for your listings.

Here’s a better list of what this GREAT MAN accomplished -read and get educated:

“Helms served as chairman of the Agriculture and Foreign Relations committees at times when the GOP held the Senate majority. He used the posts to protect his state’s tobacco growers and other farmers, and placed his stamp on foreign policy with a strident opposition to Communism.

“Under his leadership, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee was a powerful force for freedom,” said President Bush. “And today, from Central America to Central Europe and beyond, people remember: in the dark days when the forces of tyranny seemed on the rise, Jesse Helms took their side.”

He took a dim view of many arms control treaties, and supported the contras in Nicaragua as well as the right-wing government of El Salvador. He opposed the Panama Canal treaties that then-President Carter pushed through a reluctant Senate in 1977.

As Fidel Castro’s fierce critic, Helms helped create legislation in 1996 to strengthen U.S. restrictions against the Caribbean island’s communist government. The Helms-Burton law bars the United States from normalizing relations with Cuba as long as Castro or his brother Raul — who has been president since February — are involved in the island nation’s government.

In his memoirs, Helms made clear that his opinions on other issues had hardly moderated since he left office. He likened abortion to the Holocaust and the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

“I will never be silent about the death of those who cannot speak for themselves,” he wrote in “Here’s Where I Stand.”

from: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/ap_on_re_us/obit_helms


238 posted on 07/05/2008 6:29:23 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: jern

Bless you Jess. If only they could have cloned a dozen like you!


239 posted on 07/05/2008 8:07:01 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Expose Obama))
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To: eleni121

Back in the ‘80s Helms hired a new press secretary named Claude Allen. Allen was very young, very sharp, conservative and Black. The press hated getting all their prep info from Allen cause it blew the image they were trying to create.

Back when the ERA was still being fought and Helms was criticized as a Schlafly man it was pointed out that Helms had more women in power position (LAs and SAs) in his DC staff than Ted Kennedy. Of course Kennedy was pro ERA even though his idea of the place of women was so well illustrated with the make up of the Chappaquidick party consisting of six single women and six men (five of the six men were married).

Back in the ‘78 campaign Helms was still smoking and offered me a cigarette. He smoked Lucky Strike nonfilters.

The media never gave him credit for a sense of humor but he was funny and could rival Will Rogers who he often quoted.

He was the best Senator of my lifetime without any shadow of a Doubting Thomas.


240 posted on 07/05/2008 8:58:14 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Borges

>>The closest to him in the Senate today is Coburn.<<<<<

.....and don’t forget another NC patriot that is following his lead ~ Sue Myrick.


241 posted on 07/05/2008 9:52:08 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Thanks for those pointers on Senator Helms life.

Here is the thing - and this is true today for as for in the great days of the “conservative revolution” in our past.

Conservative principles benefit ALL PEOPLE - no matter the race, the gender, the religion.

Smaller government - which means fewer government employees which meanms- lower taxes which means increased ability for ALL PEOPLE to keep more of their own money rather than letting the government bureaucracy WASTE IT by the bilions BENEFITS ALL. Even the government “union” people who think they benefit by supporting liberals into office.

Why? Because lowering taxes and reducing government regulations and strangulations of private businesses across the board leads to economic prosperity for ALL!

More entrepreneurs start businesses, more small business owners prosper, more jobs are provided with benefits by those small businesses, which mean more TAXES coming in, and more longterm benefits for those who are in government employment!

Not to mention the fact that a strong military, national defense, is necessary in the first place to bring economic wellbeing and freedom as we live in peace thanks to our military and God’s blessings and defense of this nation.

Throw in support for measures that PROMOTE Godliness and justice rather than endorsing LAWLESSNESS, Licentiousness, Godlessness (through anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, anti-God rulings in the courts and laws in the legislatures)....and you have what a conservative stands for. Godlessness in our communities benefit EVERYONE .... making everyone’s lives safer from crime that comes from tolerating and promoting lawless, Godless behavior.

Conservatism benefits ALL CITIZENS of this country!

It benefits all freedom loving people in the world, as well.

We need more lions like Jesse Helms to stand up and make this clear.


242 posted on 07/06/2008 3:15:30 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Back in the day, I lived in Raleigh, I remember Jesse from his one minute a newcast edtorials. The WRAL management thought they were “giving him rope” and letting him make a fool of himself.

I met the man a few times, he was a little hard-core for my taste, BUT.. his ‘72 campaign set the tone for the “southern strategy”. The movie “Easy Rider” was fresh in everyone’s mind. A billboard I saw outside Cary and replicated statewide: Long-haired, greasy, leering hippie riding a high-handlebarred, extended-fork Harley (strange caricaturish resemblance to Peter Fonda), funny cigarette hanging out his mouth and a single digit salute directed at the viewer.

Text: “You’re not leaving the Democrat Party, It’s left you!” Like him, love him, hate him, one of the most effective political ads I ever saw. His entire career Jesse fought hard negatives of 40% or better; and won in a yellow-dog Dem state. Had he not turned out NC for Reagan... maybe Reagan wins anyway, but really tight.


243 posted on 07/07/2008 12:25:46 AM PDT by barkeep (Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; JohnnyZ; Kuksool; Clemenza

Amen. May God bless his soul. He was an extraordinary American, and a person to whom we all owe a debt of gratitude.


244 posted on 07/07/2008 7:44:37 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
I worked for the Helms campaign in Wilkes County in 1984. It was so hilarious when the left would try to attack Helms on “racism” and then Helms’ Press secretary, Claude Allen, black and very conservative, would speak on behalf of the Senator. It completely unnerved the democrats!

I was able to meet Jesse in person and he truly was a fine gentleman, Patriot, and Statesman. I am convinced that unless Jesse had campaigned for Reagan and turned the tide in the North Carolina primary in 1976, Reagan would never have been nominated in 1980, much less elected. Jesse Helms is my hero.

245 posted on 07/07/2008 9:20:34 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: MBB1984

Amen! Mine too! May God bless his wonderful family!


246 posted on 07/07/2008 6:37:07 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Congressman Lawrence Patton McDonald (D-Ga) was on KAL 007.


247 posted on 07/08/2008 1:14:48 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: Tamar1973
Congressman Lawrence Patton McDonald (D-Ga) was on KAL 007.

True. (Hey, I'm an old Birchite. I know these things.)

248 posted on 07/08/2008 6:58:01 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiftach HaShem 'et-pi ha'aton vato'mer leVil`am meh-`asiti lekha ki hikkitani zeh shalosh regalim?)
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To: MBB1984

“...I am convinced that unless Jesse had campaigned for Reagan and turned the tide in the North Carolina primary in 1976, Reagan would never have been nominated in 1980, much less elected....”

Yep Sir...Tom Ellis and Carter Wrenn were two smart cookies that ran the campaign side of Helms’ organization back in those days. That ‘84 campaign was the most expensive and dirtiest senate race ever and still is if adjusted for inflation even over big states like California.

When a two-term incumbent governor faces off against a two-term incumbent senator the gov has the big advantage due to all the patronage he controls. Thank God Helms held up under that gruelling schedule and Reagan lead the ticket so strongly. Helms did a super job in those ‘84 debates against the younger sharpie (by reputation) Gov. Hunt.


249 posted on 07/08/2008 7:33:20 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
The 1984 race was a war. Jesse came back from almost insurmountable odds to win the race. Hunt had never lost an election and was a very popular governor, albeit a crooked politician. Jesse unmasked Hunt for the liberal and flip flopper that he was.

I remember all three debates between Jesse and Hunt. Jesse was a bit tentative in the first, but nailed Hunt in the second and destroyed Hunt in the third. Hunt lost it when Jesse asked him what war he served in. Hunt replied “Are you questioning my patriotism?” It was amusing to see the alleged hip and new democrat self destruct.

250 posted on 07/08/2008 9:23:28 AM PDT by MBB1984
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