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Nashville robbery ends when restaurant manager shoots suspect
WBIR ^ | 7-4-08 | Ray

Posted on 07/04/2008 4:06:24 PM PDT by wardaddy

Two men tried to rob an Nashville Sonic restaurant, but an assistant manager pulled out a gun and fired shots, causing the suspects to flee. Police believe that one or both of the suspects was wounded.

Metro police Capt. Michele Donegan said that at approximately 10:30 p.m. Thursday, two men, one of whom was armed with a handgun, went inside the Sonic at 1410 Robinson Road, in Old Hickory. Several employees were at the restaurant, and numerous customers were at the tables outside and at the drive-ups. The armed suspect showed the gun. The assistant manager then pulled out a gun and fired several shots, Donegan said. The two men fled out the door without firing. Police are still looking for them.

After police arrived on the scene, they followed a blood trail leading across the parking and ending at a car wash. Police think that there was probably a third person with a car that they fled in. Police searched the wooded area behind the car wash using the canine and helicopter units to be sure.

No employees or customers were hurt.

The assistant manager has a carry permit, according to police.

Police are following up on some leads in the incident, which happened in the Hermitage Precinct.

Detailed descriptions of the suspects were not available early Friday morning. "It happened very quickly ... It was extremely fast," Donegan said.

? LEIGH RAY


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I own a warehouse complex directly behind this Sonic and know the owner personally.

Good job.

It's sort of a lower middle class environ with some nice lake areas close by too. Wiggahs is my guess.

Once again a gun thwarts a crime.

1 posted on 07/04/2008 4:06:25 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy

score one for the good guys.


2 posted on 07/04/2008 4:08:45 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: wardaddy

Since the Supreme court ruled it seems as if being a robber/thief has become an unhealthy profession to be in.

If some of you thugs are reading this - take heed. You attempt the crime, expect to get your $ss blown to pieces.


3 posted on 07/04/2008 4:18:07 PM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist radical Muslims in the WH)
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To: wardaddy
"robbery suspects" --- aagh!! Why not just "ROBBERS"? Old fashioned, simple, to the point, and not PC. I get so tired of "suspect."
4 posted on 07/04/2008 4:18:12 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: wardaddy

“The assistant manager has a carry permit, according to police.”

This gutsy gentleman not only prevented a robbery, but could just as easily have prevented the murder of every patron in the store.


5 posted on 07/04/2008 4:19:54 PM PDT by Spok (Liberty lives only in proportion to wholesome restraint.)
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To: wardaddy
The good news: The Second Amendment worked, once again.

The bad news: He's out of a job.

6 posted on 07/04/2008 4:21:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"robbery suspects" --- aagh!! Why not just "ROBBERS"? Old fashioned, simple, to the point, and not PC. I get so tired of "suspect."

Yeah, that old presumption of innoncence thing gets tiresome. After all, the point is to punish someone, not find the real criminal. Nobody innocent has ever been accused. Never has a person shot another and then falsely claimed self-defense!

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7 posted on 07/04/2008 4:22:34 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: wardaddy

I hope that justice is served...too often, it’s not. :-(


8 posted on 07/04/2008 4:23:31 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Good news!


9 posted on 07/04/2008 4:25:21 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Gondring

Sorry, a thug sticking up a store is nothing but a “robber” — PC be damned. You must be an attorney.


10 posted on 07/04/2008 4:27:07 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Gondring

Yeah, that old presumption of innoncence thing gets tiresome.
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Now, don’t jump the gun here. I’m sure the one young gentleman was showing the gun in an offer to sell it. It’s very likely that he had no intention of anything else. /s


11 posted on 07/04/2008 4:28:35 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: buccaneer81

The bad news: He’s out of a job.

If so...it’s not worth it after all. Good for the Manager. He saved lives that day. THAT’S what is GOOD about guns!!!


12 posted on 07/04/2008 4:30:30 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: wardaddy

Pretty soon someone will post a comment that a hamburger isn’t worth a human life! I think this manager needs to be given a medal and further marksmanship training or a larger caliber piece.


13 posted on 07/04/2008 4:32:05 PM PDT by calex59
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To: wardaddy
The assistant manager has a carry permit, according to police.

And if he hadn't?

I guess that ole 2nd amendment would have said otherwise.

14 posted on 07/04/2008 4:32:43 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: wardaddy
Freakin "wiggahs". What a sad and confused bunch of young men. They're the result of a section of society which is DEVOID of any meaningful, and correct male leadership. It's what we would all be if not for the grace of God and upright men of fortitude and courage!
15 posted on 07/04/2008 4:33:04 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: wardaddy

I’ll bet the gunman held it sideways like in the rap videos


16 posted on 07/04/2008 4:33:59 PM PDT by dennisw (Barack Obama: A Phony Smile in an Empty Suit)
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To: wardaddy

Was it really a robbery or were they just tired of waiting on their food?

Sonic food is slow and cold


17 posted on 07/04/2008 4:34:34 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; wardaddy
Sorry, a thug sticking up a store is nothing but a “robber” — PC be damned.

Then start your own newspaper and fund your own defense.

You must be an attorney.

What a nasty accusation! Most certainly, I am not!

I trust wardaddy's description of the situation, and his acquaintance with the owner involved, but I don't think we want to base our justice system on hearsay and personal relationships.

I'm assuming you're not ignorant of such cases as the teacher Greg Abbott, who was arrested for having drugs and a gun, based on an anonymous call. Fortunately for him, he wasn't presumed guilty, as his estranged wife and her male acquaintance are now behind bars.

Then there is the case not so long ago (that was an example of something not uncommon), where a business owner (gas station) shot a guy who came in, and claimed self-defense. He might have gotten away with the murder, had he simply arranged a time for his victim to come over, but he made the mistake of calling the victim and asking him to come over--thus revealing that his story was false and it was not a robbery.

But that's for others. For you, I'll remember that if you're ever accused, you'll want the government to punish you immediately.

18 posted on 07/04/2008 4:40:43 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Spok
This gutsy gentleman not only prevented a robbery, but could just as easily have prevented the murder of every patron in the store.

Let's hope Sonic doesn't call for his head like 7-eleven would.

19 posted on 07/04/2008 4:42:33 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: cubreporter

I agree. I’d hire the guy in a second.


20 posted on 07/04/2008 4:48:17 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: JohnLongIsland
score one for the good guys.

Correction. Score one for the right to carry. And every patron, every employee should be thankful the individual that went through the extensive training necessary to carry.

21 posted on 07/04/2008 4:49:00 PM PDT by gogov
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To: Gondring
Let's hope Sonic doesn't call for his head like 7-eleven would.

My bet is he'll be out of a job. Corporate America generally lines up with the gun-grabbers.

22 posted on 07/04/2008 4:50:59 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

And have you noticed that sometimes the news media doesn’t even use the word “suspect”? Sometimes reports indicate that police are seeking a “person of interest” in a criminal investigation. Yep politically correct language is used more and more nowadays.


23 posted on 07/04/2008 4:55:42 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: wardaddy
Never bring a loaded gun to start what you can't finish.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

24 posted on 07/04/2008 5:00:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Gondring
Yeah, that old presumption of innoncence thing gets tiresome. After all, the point is to punish someone, not find the real criminal. Nobody innocent has ever been accused. Never has a person shot another and then falsely claimed self-defense!

I'm sick and tired of the criminal being given the benefit of the doubt but the victim's actions are described in absolute terms. Why hell doesn't the headline say "Nashville robbery ends when restaurant manager alledgely shoots suspect"

Happy Independence Day!

25 posted on 07/04/2008 5:07:35 PM PDT by theymakemesick (The war on drugs benefits government agencies, politicians and drug dealers, they don't want to win.)
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To: buccaneer81
My bet is he'll be out of a job. Corporate America generally lines up with the gun-grabbers.

Agreed.

I guess their recent (April) executive promotions had an effect... ;-)

Also, I understand they are now going to expect customers to tip the employees so they don't have to pay minimum wage.

26 posted on 07/04/2008 5:16:49 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

That’s more than political correctness...there are differences in the two terms.


27 posted on 07/04/2008 5:17:30 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: theymakemesick
I'm sick and tired of the criminal being given the benefit of the doubt but the victim's actions are described in absolute terms.

Hmmm...

The armed suspect showed the gun. The assistant manager then pulled out a gun and fired several shots, Donegan said.

28 posted on 07/04/2008 5:19:42 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

what the heck happened? they dropped 1/2


29 posted on 07/04/2008 5:28:24 PM PDT by Selmore (Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.)
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To: buccaneer81

No, he’s not out of a job.


30 posted on 07/04/2008 5:54:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (these are dark days politically)
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To: Gondring
The armed suspect showed the gun.

Suspect, not perpetrator. "Suspect" presumes innocence yet the victim has already been judged by the "reporter".

31 posted on 07/04/2008 6:02:39 PM PDT by theymakemesick (The war on drugs benefits government agencies, politicians and drug dealers, they don't want to win.)
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To: wardaddy
No, he’s not out of a job.

You don't think Sonic will fire him?(I hope not, but Pizza Hut, 7-11 and many others do.) Corporate America seems to hate guns in the hands of its retail employees.

32 posted on 07/04/2008 6:48:44 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: chainsaw

I doubt too many armed robbers read FR.


33 posted on 07/04/2008 6:58:50 PM PDT by Marie2 (It's time for a ban on handgun bans)
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To: wardaddy

The guy was arrested in Gallatin today when he came into Sumner Regional saying someone shot him as he was walking down the street.He will be charged as soon as he’s released from the hospital


34 posted on 07/04/2008 7:01:35 PM PDT by Harold Shea (rvn `70 - `71)
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To: theymakemesick

The assumption of innocence is for the courts.

It seems to me a journalist can just report what witnesses saw.

If you saw someone robbing a store, and told the reporter that the robber was shot, they could report that.

If you saw a car on fire, and told the reporter a car was on fire, they could report that. They don’t have to say “allegedly” in front of every verb.

“The alleged gunman ran into a car, allegedly, which was purported to be a red Toyota, which allegedly had his uncle inside, who allegedly had had an argument with his wife. Witnesses say the men had been drinking. Allegedly, the car took off at a high rate of speed. . .”

It’s ridiculous. The journalist can just say what he saw or what witnesses saw. Enough already. They’ll get their day in court, as they should, and will not be convicted without a trial.


35 posted on 07/04/2008 7:03:18 PM PDT by Marie2 (It's time for a ban on handgun bans)
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To: wardaddy

a well armed citizenry equals frightened criminals...excellent.


36 posted on 07/04/2008 7:04:29 PM PDT by fabian
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To: theymakemesick

okay...suspected assistant manager.


37 posted on 07/04/2008 7:23:18 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Marie2
The assumption of innocence is for the courts.

Exactly. Any reporter who commits libel can be hauled into the courts.

It seems to me a journalist can just report what witnesses saw.

Well, what the witnesses SAY they saw.

If you saw a car on fire, and told the reporter a car was on fire, they could report that. They don’t have to say “allegedly” in front of every verb.

That's right. That's why they don't.

You'll note, no "allegedly" when they are telling what the cop said happened. They are quoting the cop.

38 posted on 07/04/2008 7:26:17 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: wardaddy

There was also a shooting incident at a Sonic in VA yeterday.


39 posted on 07/04/2008 7:26:33 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: Harold Shea
The guy was arrested in Gallatin today when he came into Sumner Regional saying someone shot him as he was walking down the street.

I bet the perp who shot him was Mr. Some Dude.

A ER doc acquaintance at Shock Trauma in Baltimore told me that Mr. Dude is the most vicious guy on the loose in the city. And minding your own business is the most dangerous activity.

He said he could pay off his med school loans pretty quickly if he got a dollar for every patient who told him, "I was just minding my own business, and then Some Dude came up and shot me!"

40 posted on 07/04/2008 7:34:23 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: EDINVA
There was also a shooting incident at a Sonic in VA yeterday.

There needs to be a waiting period on Sonics. Any reasonable person can wait three days for his food, and no more than one burger a month.

And burgers can have no more than three of the following... lettuce, tomato, cheese, onion, ketchup, ...

41 posted on 07/04/2008 7:36:28 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: wardaddy
Wardaddy,

Give the store owner a pat on the back and hardy handshake for me would ya?

Lancer

42 posted on 07/04/2008 7:42:55 PM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: buccaneer81

Glad those with guns are using them to help others.


43 posted on 07/04/2008 7:47:44 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: cubreporter
Glad those with guns are using them to help others.

Me, too. But the MSM will never report this.

44 posted on 07/04/2008 8:11:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81; NewRomeTacitus

I know the owner and his son works for me as does New Rome Tacitus here..and a fine job I might say....impeccably trustworthy

NRT and I just had burgers, beer and fireworks...he can second this when he gets home if he goes online.

I am told that many owner operated Sonics (and even some company stores) actually encourage CCW. I’m not really surprised....Sonic ownership has been known to be fairly conservative ...started in OK...Art Linkletter was a big player in it once.


45 posted on 07/04/2008 8:20:40 PM PDT by wardaddy (these are dark days politically)
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To: Gondring
“I bet the perp who shot him was Mr. Some Dude.

A ER doc acquaintance at Shock Trauma in Baltimore told me that Mr. Dude is the most vicious guy on the loose in the city. And minding your own business is the most dangerous activity.

He said he could pay off his med school loans pretty quickly if he got a dollar for every patient who told him, “I was just minding my own business, and then Some Dude came up and shot me!”


Excellent. I will remember that.

46 posted on 07/04/2008 8:28:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Gondring

Fortunately, I guess, we don’t have Sonic near here ... closest one is about 200 miles away, but they advetise like crazy on our cable channels ... I’ll remember to pass them by when and if I get near one !!


47 posted on 07/04/2008 8:31:10 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: wardaddy
I am told that many owner operated Sonics (and even some company stores) actually encourage CCW.

Wow. That would be a breath of fresh air. Good on 'em!

48 posted on 07/04/2008 8:39:36 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: wardaddy

Was the asst manager a family member too?

Is this Sonic just down from a Piggly Wiggly?


49 posted on 07/04/2008 8:39:51 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: buccaneer81

Well, they are predictable as always. Who cares about them anyway. They are silly, dopes all of them and think it is all about THEM.


50 posted on 07/04/2008 9:52:25 PM PDT by cubreporter
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