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Astronomer dismisses talk of aliens visiting Earth from outer space
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | Friday, July 04, 2008

Posted on 07/04/2008 9:27:14 PM PDT by wallace144

Anyone fascinated by UFO sightings will be disappointed to learn that a leading expert has dismissed suggestions we have ever been visited by aliens from outer space. There may be life out there, apparently, but it is just too far to get to Earth by spaceship.

Following reported sightings of UFOs there has been renewed speculation that aliens may be watching us.

But Dr Christian Kaiser, of the University of Southampton, said it is unlikely any can have made it this far.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 07/04/2008 9:27:15 PM PDT by wallace144
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To: wallace144

Beldar could not be reached for comment.


2 posted on 07/04/2008 9:28:24 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: wallace144

Once again, you earthlings crack me up!


3 posted on 07/04/2008 9:31:11 PM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: wallace144
To far for earth capabilities but not for the capabilities of my alien friends.
4 posted on 07/04/2008 9:33:14 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: wallace144
I don't take anyone who thinks we've been visited by aliens, seriously.

Not because I doubt their existence, but because it's so incredibly improbable.

5 posted on 07/04/2008 9:33:20 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: wallace144
There may be life out there, apparently, but it is just too far to get to Earth by spaceship.

Warp speed, Mr. Sulu!

6 posted on 07/04/2008 9:34:24 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: wallace144
You mean Coast to Coast is a pack of lier's? I am Shocked.
7 posted on 07/04/2008 9:34:39 PM PDT by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: wallace144

You mean Star Trek is a lie???????


8 posted on 07/04/2008 9:35:47 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Incredibly impossible from the standpoint of our current technology. 100 years ago, the notion of landing a man on the moon or setting probes down on Mars was patently ludicrous, the stuff of Sci-Fi.


9 posted on 07/04/2008 9:40:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: wallace144

Cloverfield.


10 posted on 07/04/2008 9:41:53 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: wallace144

I always keep an open mind. Science has much more to add to our ignorance.


11 posted on 07/04/2008 9:54:59 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: wallace144

Xenu will deal with this non-believer.


12 posted on 07/04/2008 9:55:04 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: wallace144

(Date line, 1008 A.D.) Leading alchemists dismiss the notion that people can ever achieve flight. “People are just too big to fly.”, says Lord Ossify of the Royal Society of Alchemists. “I’ve tried pasting feathers on servants ad pushing them off the third floor balcony at my castle, and at best the results can be described as disappointing.”


13 posted on 07/04/2008 9:55:51 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: wallace144
there has been renewed speculation that aliens may be watching us.

Driven through any major intersections, lately? Click bang, what a hang.

14 posted on 07/04/2008 10:01:04 PM PDT by budwiesest (Barack is going to lose by 37 states. He'll only take 20.)
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To: 6SJ7

lol...well done.


15 posted on 07/04/2008 10:01:16 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: wallace144
Well! Glad that's all resolved, then.
16 posted on 07/04/2008 10:02:50 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (Slide.)
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To: wallace144
How do we know that this so-called, “Dr Christian Kaiser” isn't an alien himself who is just trying to fool the earthlings?

Has anyone seen “Dr Christian Kaiser” birth certificate?

17 posted on 07/04/2008 10:03:00 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: wallace144

A leading expert from NASA also said that global warning is real and that we have to do something quick or the end of the world is a done deal.


18 posted on 07/04/2008 10:09:49 PM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I would imagine that we stand out like a sore thumb to races just a few hundred years ahead of us not to mention those that are 1 million years ahead of us.


19 posted on 07/04/2008 10:13:15 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: wallace144

If this is true, what is Coast-to-Coast going to talk about?


20 posted on 07/04/2008 10:13:34 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: wallace144

Evidently another government shill. Sheesh.


21 posted on 07/04/2008 10:19:44 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: wallace144
...a leading expert has dismissed suggestions we have ever been visited by aliens from outer space.

Some expert! I bet he doesn't know a damn thing about space aliens.

22 posted on 07/04/2008 10:27:21 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: wallace144

Duh.

Maybe someday though, someday.


23 posted on 07/04/2008 10:38:49 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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This article was already posted 2 of your earth days ago.


24 posted on 07/04/2008 10:50:30 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: wallace144
"However, the distances between stars in our galaxy are enormous."

Which is why you use the friggin' warp drive. As everybody knows. Sheesh.

25 posted on 07/04/2008 10:56:49 PM PDT by TChad
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To: wallace144

What about the Eisenhower UFO treaty which stipulated that, if they would share their technology with us, they could mutilate all the livestock they want?


26 posted on 07/04/2008 11:04:35 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Bible toting, bitter and armed with slashing sarcasm.)
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To: wallace144

Well I’ve always been a sceptic in the extreme but when ‘scientists’ start telling us its impossible ... stand by. An unimagined breakthrough is nigh.


27 posted on 07/04/2008 11:10:13 PM PDT by gost2
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To: Psycho_Bunny

DEPENDS ON A LOT

OF ASSUMPTIONS

And a lot of . . . blind confidence in one’s assumptions . . . based on . . . next to nothing.


28 posted on 07/04/2008 11:21:38 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

And kidnap a specified number of Americans . . .

which it was later found out they’d exceeded by several orders of magnitude.

Virtually all who have had any significant dealings with them assert that they lie, a lot.

Yet the globalist idiots trust them enough to obey them and imagine that the globalist idiots are going to end up on the top of a smaller heap via the ET’s help and direction.

What idiocy.

Satan must be gleeful.


29 posted on 07/04/2008 11:24:07 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: FMBass

I tried to warn them about setting off them high-altitude nukes in the 60’s....like setting off stobe lights for the whole galaxy to see...

“Hey - look at us - we’re stupid! Come on over and and make us slaves on your mining colonies!” We’re helpless to stop you!”

No matter - When the slaveships arrive with the armada, I got an application in to work as slavemaster in the breeding pens...good work if you can find it.


30 posted on 07/04/2008 11:24:14 PM PDT by baclava
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To: wallace144

Then explain how James Carville got here...


31 posted on 07/04/2008 11:36:06 PM PDT by tubebender (Why does a round pizza come in a square box?)
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To: tubebender; Joya

Ping to Joya about the FACELESS COUPLE:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1031062/Faceless-aliens-spotted-crowd-Wimbledon.html


32 posted on 07/04/2008 11:54:55 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: gost2

Interesting Canary Island case:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread367575/pg1


33 posted on 07/05/2008 12:00:13 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: wallace144

In a world that is 75% covered by water it a little surprising that nobody ever speculates that there phenomena might actually originate on our own planet(?)


34 posted on 07/05/2008 2:16:14 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Any alien stupid enough to waste time visiting Earth deserves to be ignored. The smarter ones know the Earth will be destroyed by global warming (or, if not, the best parts are already conquered by mexicans or muslims), and they would be wasting time to visit here.


35 posted on 07/05/2008 2:41:25 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Quix
Actually, the astronomer has a point. The idea that aliens are visiting Earth, traveling here in spaceships is very hard to swallow, based on the laws of physics.

Here's a description of the orb from the Canary Island case link above:

"As he watched the enigmatic sphere, it began to grow larger and larger as it began to move away from the island toward the town of Tenerfie. After reaching its ultimate size, it then dissolved into a small size before disappearing."

Ah, does this sound like a "spaceship". What space ship can grow in size, then dissolve? If you look at this report from a scientific point of view and follow the evidence, the evidence shows that the UFO phenomenom is a real event and that it's not caused by "spaceships". What's left?

The best guy I've read on this is Jacques Vallee, who's been advocating for a true scientific investigation of UFOs for 40 years. This is by far not the only case of UFO's not acting as physical craft, but as something else. Vallee throws out the idea that this type of UFO case could be some kind of holographic projection/transmission of mass. From where? That's a good question. Inter-dimensional?

Vallee warned that Science is setting itself up for its own rejection and loss of credibility. This astronomer is right, UFOs aren't spacecraft from another planet, but he can't take the next step and say UFO therefore don't exist. Vallee says, all it will take, is one undeniable, very public case of an UFO incident.

36 posted on 07/05/2008 6:58:27 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Friends don't let friends buy into Dem propaganda.)
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To: The Duke

There are many reports of UFO/USO bases under the oceans.

Many reports of lit USO’s pacing aircraft carriers etc. . . . underwater . . . or above water then diving into the water near the ship.


37 posted on 07/05/2008 7:00:35 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Certainly a percentage of craft have long behaved as organisms.

Far from all do. A rather small percentage do.

Then there’s nanotech . . . which could also explain shrinking and expanding sizes of some craft and surveillance orbs.

IF there’s 3-4 key things we don’t yet understand about reality—the distance thing could easily be laughable.

IF there’s 3-4 key ‘short cuts’ rendering the distance thing a silly moot issue—it could easily be laughable from the ET perspective.


38 posted on 07/05/2008 7:03:31 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Quix

what do you make of UFO sightings? I’ve always wondered, could they be spirits/ spiritual apparitions of some sort, possibly? crop circles certainly are inexplicable anomalies, thats for certain.


39 posted on 07/05/2008 8:04:54 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: Quix
The exact opposite is 100% true.

Objectively, the choice to believe or not to believe is just a coin toss.

40 posted on 07/05/2008 8:39:28 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Not by a very very very long shot.

Have you studied it since 1962?

How many 10’s of thousands of pages of evidence have you read?

How many close relatives of yours worked around UFO’s on a daily basis?


41 posted on 07/05/2008 8:41:43 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Psycho_Bunny; Quix
The exact opposite is 100% true.

Objectively, the choice to believe or not to believe is just a coin toss.


Actually, you're mistaking the means used to determine a choice at random for the choice itself and the reasons for the choice. There's a whole lot more that goes into setting up that scenario than the limitations imposed by the mechanics of the coin toss.
42 posted on 07/05/2008 8:46:47 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: FBD

I believe the best explanation is in the materials from

HTTP:/WWW.ANCIENTofDAYS.NET

The [reliable version] of the Book of Enoch and Genesis mention fallen angels/ watchers/ nephilium . . . I believe they are “ET’s.”

It remains to be ‘proven’ to some satisfactions whether or not that includes critters inhabiting other worlds more or less as we inhabit this one. Some insist no. Some think Maybe. Some say yes—both sorts of ET critters exist and are in cahoots with satan to set up the global government as part of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION.

Some convincing sources assert that the global government folks do about half the abductions now with our own fleets of UFO’s and ET’s the other half.

I have no doubt at all that the NWO folks have fleets of tangible ‘nuts and bolts’ craft [though there’s no nuts and bolts] at their disposal and that they will use them to help insure the global government’s powers and controls. Some folks, my relative include, insist that the ET’s taught us how to build some and we learned some from backwards engineering some crashed craft.

Abductions have been stopped cold by folks remembering some fleeting long ago Sunday School phrase and saying: “STOP IN THE NAME OF JESUS.”


43 posted on 07/05/2008 8:47:02 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: aruanan

Well put.


44 posted on 07/05/2008 8:48:00 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: wallace144

Doesn’t Kaiser know about the Tycho Treaty?


45 posted on 07/05/2008 8:51:54 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: wallace144
Dr Christian Kaiser, of the University of Southampton

One of seven billion opinions on this trivial topic.

46 posted on 07/05/2008 8:56:51 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Quix

Ya. Good luck with that.


47 posted on 07/05/2008 10:38:15 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: aruanan
Not really. For every One, someone holds the belief of the Other...for every "fact" there is a disproof.

The equation of choice becomes so complex as to render an objective decision impossible.

48 posted on 07/05/2008 10:41:54 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: RightWhale

From:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread350343/pg1

Royal Blue blood Knight of Malta and Honorary 33rd degree Freemason, America’s 40th President Ronald Reagan often talked about how the whole world would come together if there were an external alien threat to our planet. At the United Nations General Assembly on Sept. 21st, 1987, Reagan said, “In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.” Speaking to a room full of reporters at the White House on May 5th, 1988, Reagan said, “I’ve often wondered what if all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by an outer…a power from another planet. Wouldn’t we all of a sudden find that we didn’t have any differences between us at all, we were all human beings, citizens of the world and wouldn’t we come together to fight that particular threat?” He mentioned this idea many other times throughout his life.

Henry Kissinger at the Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, 1991 is reported to have said, “Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e. an ‘alien’ invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government


49 posted on 07/05/2008 10:46:21 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

The ATS motto is

DENY IGNORANCE

not

DENY GOOD EVIDENCE


50 posted on 07/05/2008 10:47:35 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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