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John Murtha: Surge Is Working Because Our Troops Finally Stopped Murdering Innocents (Video)
KXnet.com ^ | July 5, 2008

Posted on 07/05/2008 12:38:38 PM PDT by jazusamo

Murtha: I think they have 17 or so guidelines and they’ve solved 4 or 5 of them. . .

Murtha: I think the short term it (the Bush Surge) has reduced incidents. I’m not sure if it’s because the Iraqis are just worn out but certainly the way they are doing it today it makes a big difference. It used to be we broke down doors. We went in and we killed people inadvertently. Now they’re much more careful about it.

Murtha says he thinks that “they” (apparently Murtha doesn’t consider himself a member of the country that’s at war in Iraq) have achieved “4 or 5” of the “17 or so guidelines” that need to be achieved in Iraq

The reality?  Our nation set out 18 benchmarks for success in Iraq, and of those 15 have now been achieved

Discussion question: How scary is it that this guy, who clearly either has no idea at all what’s going on Iraq or knows but chooses to dishonestly ignore it, is a member of Congress?

Remember, Rep. Murtha was the guy Democrats chose to put on point when it came to Iraq policy circa 2005.  Remember all those news stories about the “hawkish” Democrat who was now opposing the war?  The liberal left put their faith in Murtha to lead them to a withdrawal from Iraq

That Murtha has been so horribly wrong about Iraq just shows how wrong the left in general has been about the war

John Murtha 8 min. video


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: haditha; iraq; murtha; wot
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1 posted on 07/05/2008 12:38:39 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Murtha you’re insulting.


2 posted on 07/05/2008 12:40:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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3 posted on 07/05/2008 12:41:08 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

murtha is a traitor.


4 posted on 07/05/2008 12:45:44 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: Red Steel

He’s not insulting, he’s an ignorant traitor. His untruthful comments have aided our enemy and hurt our troops.


5 posted on 07/05/2008 12:46:20 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: jazusamo

I have been to Johnstown and I cannot understand how the good people of Western PA continue to elect this man. It must be all of the pork he brings.


6 posted on 07/05/2008 12:46:32 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: jazusamo

Murtha you ignorant s___!


7 posted on 07/05/2008 12:48:22 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: jazusamo

The man is utterly despicable.


8 posted on 07/05/2008 12:49:22 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: jazusamo

John Murtha is living proof of the saying “Fat, drunk and stupid is a hell of a way to go through life.”


9 posted on 07/05/2008 12:49:29 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: jazusamo

Murtha is a FOS!


10 posted on 07/05/2008 12:49:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: Perdogg

It has to be the pork. I can’t remember the exact figure now but his district has around 20% military and veterans, the figure was brought out when Diana Irey ran against him last election.


11 posted on 07/05/2008 12:51:49 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

When is this pos going to drop over dead from his own venom?


12 posted on 07/05/2008 12:52:32 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: jazusamo

^%*^%$^%*^(^% (*&(*&%% &(*&^%&^$*^)* &^$%&^&^ (*&(65
*&^(*^(*&^%&^ like Murtha in Congress is EXACTLY why we’re a declining nation..

With ^(^(*& *(*&)(*& (*Y)(^%(*& *&(* *&(**& in positions of power like Murtha, while a steaming turd has more intelligence and integrity — there is no hope.

I PRAY the slandered Marines sue this ^%*&^%*&%*&% into abject poverty to the point of him wandering homeless in the street, being pissed on each time he falls to the gutter.

I am all out of compassion or charity for *^%*&%*&^%*& and traitors like Murtha.


It would almost be worth getting banned to say what I REALLY think about Murtha.


13 posted on 07/05/2008 12:52:53 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: jazusamo

One day we will hear that this pos had a heart attack.I hope its soon.He is the enemy, period.


14 posted on 07/05/2008 12:53:58 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: jazusamo
It seems clear to me that all Murtha took from his time as a Marine was a profound hatred for the armed forces. Not at all different from John Kerry.
15 posted on 07/05/2008 12:54:32 PM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: jazusamo

Make that around 20% military and veteral families.


16 posted on 07/05/2008 12:54:56 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

I cannot imagine the things that come from this man’s mouth, is he totally nuts? I can’t believe the way he has stabbed in the back the men and women in uniform with his comments, and continues to do so when he is former military himself. Shades of Traitor Kerry with him, is there something in the water they drink?


17 posted on 07/05/2008 12:55:09 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: jazusamo
"Hello. My name is John Murtha and I'm the head of the Armed Services Committee. I hate the troops, but I love stealing their money!"


18 posted on 07/05/2008 12:59:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tammy8

There are some here including me who have followed his antics for over two years that believe he suffers from the onset of dementia.


19 posted on 07/05/2008 1:00:08 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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20 posted on 07/05/2008 1:00:21 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Cicero

Sadly, that is so true, Cicero.


21 posted on 07/05/2008 1:01:31 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: river rat

I THINK WE GET YOUR DRIFT!


22 posted on 07/05/2008 1:11:50 PM PDT by sig229 (The loonie left "FLUNKED" human nature 101)
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To: jazusamo
"Inadvertently"? As in "accidently" as in not "cold-blooded murder"?

This is a significant change from Murtha's former rhetoric. Wonder if he's preparing to climb down about Haditha?

I won't have a chance to look at the video for a bit. Wonder if there's anything more there?

23 posted on 07/05/2008 1:14:05 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: imahawk

much better to frustrate his agenda, publicize his viewpoint and defeat him in an election. Otherwise, we look like the people on the liberal blogs celebrating Helms’ death today.


24 posted on 07/05/2008 1:14:58 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: RedRover

I’m really not too surprised he’s toned it down after all the criticism he’s gotten but you’re right, it is a change.

I didn’t pick up much else that’s new from the video, most of it is the same old bilge he’s been spouting for two and a half years, the turkeys got a one track mind.


25 posted on 07/05/2008 1:18:48 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: gusopol3

It’s very difficult to believe that even a former American, like Murtha, can be such a despicable character.


26 posted on 07/05/2008 1:21:35 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: river rat

All I can say to that is I know exactly what you mean, rr.


27 posted on 07/05/2008 1:21:40 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
Truth, fact, and history have proven his total ignorance.
This POS needs to be pushed aside and totally ignored. There is nothing about this senile old liar that should get any public attention at all.
28 posted on 07/05/2008 1:23:17 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (I'm a retired disabled AB Ranger and I'm damn proud of it!!!!!)
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To: gusopol3

We have not been able to frustrate his agenda one bit.What he has caused pain wise for our fine Marines is traitorous and in another era of this country would have been delt with acordingly.Hanging is too good for this dirt bag.The people in his district have to be idiots plain and simple.You can play nice, but I like my way better.


29 posted on 07/05/2008 1:26:18 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

agreed, but it ain’t gonna happen


30 posted on 07/05/2008 1:34:00 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: jazusamo

I doubt he know what day it is. Senile and treasonous.


31 posted on 07/05/2008 1:35:36 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: imahawk

hoping somebody has a heart attack is something you just ought to keep to yourself. “Vengeance is mine saith the Lord.” Besides, then if you have the heart attack, you don’t have to say to yourself, “I shouldn’t have wished that on John Murtha.”


32 posted on 07/05/2008 1:37:29 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: oldenuff2no

I agree completely and even some of his fellow RATS have distanced themselves from him but I think he’ll have to carried out of the House feet first for him to leave.


33 posted on 07/05/2008 1:39:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
I guess he decided to say something else that is so extremely offensive that he figures we'll forget all about the last extremely offensive statement.

Personally, I find that his mere presence as a Pennsylvania politician extremely offensive!!

34 posted on 07/05/2008 1:42:40 PM PDT by airborne (End the "open primary" system now!!! Only Republicans should vote in Republican primaries!)
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To: gusopol3

Someday soon we are just going to have to beg the Lord’s pardon and start doing what needs to be done.


35 posted on 07/05/2008 1:43:51 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: Jay Redhawk

you talkin’ rope, or heart attack pills?


36 posted on 07/05/2008 1:46:07 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: jazusamo
Scary and disgusting.

I hope the Democrats put him out front to sell their version of dispatriotic unAmericanism.

37 posted on 07/05/2008 1:46:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: gusopol3

I wouldn’t want to get too specific about it on a national forum.


38 posted on 07/05/2008 1:48:14 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: jazusamo

I saw at DU that 1 million innocent Iraqis have been murdered..
these guys make up what they want


39 posted on 07/05/2008 1:52:54 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Perdogg
I have been to Johnstown and I cannot understand how the good people of Western PA continue to elect this man. It must be all of the pork he brings.

I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt but I can't think of anything good about people who would sell out our country in a time of war for money taken from their fellow citizens. May posterity forget that his supporters were our countrymen.

40 posted on 07/05/2008 1:56:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: woofie

speaking of other sites, the guy over at icasualties.org is either taking a long vacation, or he’s gotten real discouraged he hasn’t had many U.S. deaths to celebrate, hasn’t even started a line for July yet.


41 posted on 07/05/2008 1:58:22 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Red Steel; jazusamo

CONG “Mullah Omar” Murtha is more than insulting, he’s an “Enemy of the State!”


42 posted on 07/05/2008 2:18:00 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: jazusamo

This is quite encouraging, as it suggests that anti-US war crimes agitprop may be losing its tactical value for the leftists.


43 posted on 07/05/2008 2:21:14 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: aflaak

ping


44 posted on 07/05/2008 2:40:36 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (If you're not taking flak, you're not over the target.)
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To: jazusamo

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”


45 posted on 07/05/2008 2:47:47 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: jazusamo

Bump


46 posted on 07/05/2008 3:36:12 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Veteran======Help keep FR free donate today======)
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To: jazusamo

John Murtha; how much longer is that old fart gonna live? He needs to go on to his “reward”, whatever it maybe and wherever he will receive it.


47 posted on 07/05/2008 3:53:10 PM PDT by no dems (B. Hussein is an Obamanation)
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To: jazusamo

Just when you think he couldn’t get more repugnant.


48 posted on 07/05/2008 4:02:47 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: jazusamo

“Dumb” is such a terrible thing to waste on “idiots”!!!!!!


49 posted on 07/05/2008 4:10:12 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Jay Redhawk; Admin Moderator

If you don’t care to be specific about what, perhaps you’d like to get a little specific on who the “we” is..................................................

You sure don’t speak for anyone I know on this forum.


50 posted on 07/05/2008 4:11:09 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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