Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Secret U.S. mission hauls ('yellowcake') uranium from Iraq
7/05/08

Posted on 07/05/2008 6:00:55 PM PDT by Libloather

Link only


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apstory; armitage; dncnocomment; energy; freescooterlibby; iraq; plame; prewarintelligence; proliferation; secret; uranium; wilson; yellowcake
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-65 next last

1 posted on 07/05/2008 6:00:57 PM PDT by Libloather
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Impossible.... Iraq had no interest in any of that stuff, Bush made it all up so he could go in and steal their oil (to keep our gas prices low).


2 posted on 07/05/2008 6:03:28 PM PDT by Cementjungle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Jeo Wilson said they didn’t buy any yellow cake. /sarcasm


3 posted on 07/05/2008 6:03:52 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: txflake; nuconvert

Ping!


4 posted on 07/05/2008 6:08:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Just to give some perspective, Libya had a cache of yellowcake that the IAEA knew about, which came from Niger. They smuggled it in, and then later came clean about it.

They had another cache that the IAEA didn’t know about. It also came from Niger.

Keep that in mind whenever Wilson or anyone else says that there was no uranium black market in Niger.


5 posted on 07/05/2008 6:09:40 PM PDT by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Did they say “Mother May I” to the UN?


6 posted on 07/05/2008 6:10:45 PM PDT by listenhillary (There's more people in the wagon, than there is pushin')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marron
Keep that in mind whenever Wilson or anyone else says that there was no uranium black market in Niger.

Joe was too busy drinking sweet mint tea and being fed BS from the Niger government stooges.

7 posted on 07/05/2008 6:12:22 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: marron

marron, how can you say that about the squeaky clean joe wilson and his top secret cia,spy wife?


8 posted on 07/05/2008 6:12:33 PM PDT by tillacum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Libloather; All
"Accusations that Saddam had tried to purchase more yellowcake from the African nation of Niger — and an article by a former U.S. ambassador refuting the claims — led to a wide-ranging probe into Washington leaks that reached high into the Bush administration."

Joe Wilson Yellow Cake

9 posted on 07/05/2008 6:12:46 PM PDT by musicman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marron

The IAEA knew.
They were just pretending. (wink wink)

El Baradei is “married to the Mullahs” at least two ways.
Their goal is for a Worldwide Nuclear Caliphate.


10 posted on 07/05/2008 6:16:21 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Diogenesis

Since Wilson is into Sahel area mining, with a Saudi partner, its possible he knows a little something about it as well.


11 posted on 07/05/2008 6:18:57 PM PDT by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

"Pay no attention to the yellow cake. Focus only on the sweet mint tea."

12 posted on 07/05/2008 6:20:48 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marron

Where can I read about *that* connection?!


13 posted on 07/05/2008 6:21:12 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: marron

Was not his first wife a French spy? (like him?)


14 posted on 07/05/2008 6:22:12 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Army Air Corps

Give me a little bit, I’ll have to dig. Unless someone can help. His partner is Algerian/Saudi. They do mining. In the Sahel.


15 posted on 07/05/2008 6:24:06 PM PDT by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: A.A. Cunningham

What’s Gena Rowlands doing in the background? Did Joe Wilson star in some long lost Cassavetes film?


16 posted on 07/05/2008 6:25:56 PM PDT by Clemenza (You Shoot Me in a Dream, You Better Wake Up and Apologize)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: marron

Thanks! That will be some excellent conversational ammo with some wishy-washy moderates at work.


17 posted on 07/05/2008 6:26:40 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
Pre-war quotes from "lying" House and Senate democrats...

"In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad.

In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001."

"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East which, as we know all too well, affects American security."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
Congressional Record – Sen. Hillary Clinton

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2002_record&page=S10288&position=all

John Kerry: “I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq – Saddam Hussein is a renegade and outlaw who turned his back on the tough conditions of his surrender put in place by the United Nations in 1991.” (July 2002)

John Kerry: “I believe the record of Saddam Hussein’s ruthless, reckless breach of international values and standards of behavior is cause enough for the world community to hold him accountable by use of force if necessary.”

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
U.S. Senate - Ted Kennedy

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
Transcript of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-23-gore-text_x.htm

"When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable." -
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002
Congressional Record – Sen. John F. Kerry

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2002_record&page=S10174&position=all

John Kerry on the floor of the Senate
October 2002:

"With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask ourselves a simple question:

Why?

Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that most nations have agreed to limit or give up?

Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community?

Why is Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don't even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their potential for disaster?

Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke?

Why does he develop missiles that exceed allowable limits?

Why did Saddam Hussein lie and deceive the inspection teams previously?

Why did Saddam Hussein not account for all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified?

Why is he seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological agents?

Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002
Congressional Record – Sen. John F. Kerry

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2002_record&page=S10171&position=all

“The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates should consider Saddam's possible use of chemical or biological weapons against our troops.

Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately threatened.”
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002
Congressional Record - Sen. Ted Kennedy

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=S10090&dbname=2002_record

John Kerry: “I would disagree with John McCain that it's the actual weapons of mass destruction he may use against us, it's what he may do in another invasion of Kuwait or in a miscalculation about the Kurds or a miscalculation about Iran or particularly Israel. Those are the things that--that I think present the greatest danger. He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It's the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat." (October 2002)

John Kerry: “If You Don’t Believe . . . Saddam Hussein is a threat with nuclear weapons, then you shouldn’t vote for me.” (January 2003)

John Kerry: Saddam Hussein is a brutal dictator who must be disarmed. (March 2003)

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal."..."Iraq has continued to seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions concerning Iraq’s efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction." –
Sen. John Edwards, October 10, 2002
Congressional Record – Sen. John Edwards

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2002_record&page=S10325&position=all

"There is no doubt that since that time Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." –
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001
http://usinfo.org/wf-archive/2001/011207/epf510.htm

"We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing the... defanging Saddam.." -
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002
Online with Jim Lehrer – Public Broadcasting Service

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec02/iraq_12-10.html

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
Transcript of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-23-gore-text_x.htm

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
Transcript of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-23-gore-text_x.htm

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
U.S. Senate - Ted Kennedy

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." -
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
Congressional Record – Robert Byrd

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2002_record&page=S9874&position=all

"When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable." -
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002
Congressional Record – Sen. John F. Kerry

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2002_record&page=S10174&position=all

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."-
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
Congressional Record –Sen. Jay Rockefeller

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" –
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
Congressional Record – Rep. Henry Waxman

MY SOURCE FOR ALL OF THESE QUOTES:
http://www.americandaily.com/article/4694

18 posted on 07/05/2008 6:29:54 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Army Air Corps; Fedora

Here’s something from our Fedora, who has done a lot of research on the matter. She includes footnotes.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1256475/posts

In 1998 he left the State Department and began putting his diplomatic contacts to business use. He formed J.C. Wilson International Ventures Corporation, a business development and management company which ventured in gold, oil, and telecommunications and served clients in Africa, Western Europe, and Turkey. At this time new African markets were emerging due to the recent passage of an African trade bill Wilson had helped President Clinton promote. Wilson’s African investment interests included oil markets in several parts of Africa and the gold market in Niger.

Wilson also kept abreast of the gold market in Iraq, where the price of gold was exceptionally cheap, as Wilson observed in one of his lectures.10 Meanwhile his then-wife Jacqueline, whom he would soon leave for Valerie Plame, became a registered lobbyist for the Presidency of Gabon, where Wilson had a good relationship with President Omar Bongo.11

Wilson ran his company out of the offices of an investment company called Rock Creek Corporation. Rock Creek was controlled by Mohammed Alamoudi, whom Wilson had met in 1997 at a reception organized for the World Bank by Westar Group. Alamoudi was a member of the Saudi-Ethiopian Alamoudi dynasty, which was heavily invested in the segments of the African economy Wilson was seeking to penetrate. The Alamoudi-affiliated company Delta Services—a Swiss subsidiary of the Saudi company Delta Oil—handled Iraqi oil export contracts in 2000 and 2001 and was revealed in 2003 as a recipient of Iraqi Oil-for-Food vouchers channeled through Abu Abbas, a Palestinian terrorist with Iraqi connections. Delta Services also cooperated with Afghanistan’s Taliban regime in a project to build an oil pipeline from Afghanistan to Pakistan, prior to this project’s suspension in 1998. In 1999, Alamoudi was accused by USA Today reporter Jack Kelley of heading a bank which was being investigated for financing Al Qaeda. USA Today printed retractions of several details in Kelley’s article in 2004, after another member of the Alamoudi family—Abdurahman Alamoudi, a prominent American Muslim lobbyist—was indicted on terror-related charges involving a Libyan-backed conspiracy to assassinate Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Abdullah. Abdurahman was ultimately convicted in October 2004 and sentenced to 23 years in prison.12 Under Mohammed Alamoudi’s direction, Rock Creek was chaired by Elias Aburdene, an Arab-American international banking advisor and lobbyist who had previously advised banks linked to organized crime and intelligence community figures involved in the S&L Scam. In 2003 and 2004 Aburdene donated to the Sandhills Political Action Committee, which was affiliated with Senator Chuck Hagel, 13 a leading Republican critic of the Bush administration’s Iraq policy.14


19 posted on 07/05/2008 6:31:15 PM PDT by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Another link
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,376747,00.html


20 posted on 07/05/2008 6:34:17 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cementjungle

BUT, BUT, there was is absolutely NO evidence that sadam had anything like yellow cake. He was a peace loving type of person that was absolutely misunderstood. HUH?

Joe wilson and wife valerie said there was NO yellow cake...and they MUST be believed because they are who they are. He a former amb ass ador and she an under the cover agent of the cia. I know she was undercover, because joe said she told him, while they were undercovers. Read his book.


21 posted on 07/05/2008 6:37:10 PM PDT by tillacum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Cementjungle

Actually, if the earlier thread is correct, this is yellowcake that was known and monitored for quite some time and is not the same yellowcake that has been the subject of debate.


22 posted on 07/05/2008 6:38:47 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

23 posted on 07/05/2008 6:42:10 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Well .. I guess it’s not secret anymore.


24 posted on 07/05/2008 6:44:18 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

they did not have that stuff!

nor will any democrat tv viewer believe them.


25 posted on 07/05/2008 6:49:53 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
I consider myself a news junkie, but my mouth dropped open when I read this article.

Is this correct - after Saddam surrendered in 1991 the United States allowed him to keep 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium in Iraq?

I know nothing about this.

Did Bush Sr. make that decision?

Does anyone know why?

Finally - if Saddam already owned a huge stockpile of yellowcake, why did anyone in the West give a rat's a** if he went out and bought more of it?

26 posted on 07/05/2008 6:51:27 PM PDT by zeestephen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
There's two reasons the US had to remove it secretly, to keep Al-Qaeda and Iran from getting a hold of it but of course the MSM has given no indication they would understand.
27 posted on 07/05/2008 6:53:38 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

This is a great thread. A thread like this always brings the closet trolls out.


28 posted on 07/05/2008 6:56:35 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Army Air Corps; Libloather

The Almoudis are Saudi/Ethiopian, not Saudi/Algerian, sorry.

They were involved in the Oil for Food scam, taking money from Saddam. And, as I say, Wilson was in their pocket.

They were also lobbyists with contacts into the elites of both parties, so it gets murky when you dig into their contacts.

But in my opinion, the fact that they have contacts with both parties doesn’t eliminate the opportunities for black-helicopter “conspiracy theories”, on the contrary, the game just gets that much more interesting.

In the end, though, the question is a simple one. How did Libya get its supply of yellow-cake? It had some it got before coming clean to the IAEA. How did it get it? It bought it from Niger. And it had a later supply that IAEA didn’t know about. How did it get it? It bought it from Niger.

There is a trick, though, in all of this, a sleight of hand which Wilson played, which is the assumption that IAEA was monitoring Niger’s yellowcake business. It wasn’t.

It wasn’t, for three reasons. #1, Niger hadn’t passed legislation allowing IAEA inspectors into the country. That didn’t come until two years after Wilson’s leap to fame. #2, IAEA themselves said they didn’t have personnel sufficient to do it. Strange thing to say, but thats what they said. And #3, IAEA doesn’t consider yellowcake as something requiring their attention. Its low-grade stuff. Yellow-cake sales are supposed to be self-reported. Voluntary self-reporting, thats how IAEA monitors yellow-cake sales.

Which means, in other words, they don’t monitor yellow-cake at all. Its not really smuggling; Libya can buy it and Niger can ship it and IAEA is only informed if someone bothers to file the paperwork with them, which is completely voluntary. Obviously, no one did.

But Wilson’s other case, which is that France and Niger would never make illicit sales of yellowcake is a bit disingenuous. Someone sold the stuff to Libya. Whether or not you consider it “illicit” depends upon how you decide to slice the matter. So the question is, was Wilson smart enough to know all that? Or not?


29 posted on 07/05/2008 6:56:52 PM PDT by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
Got this off some blog a while back, but the person makes some interesting observations...

July 13, 2003
Niger Uranium - Why the Forgeries

During the lead-up to the Iraq war, documents surfaced which purported to show an attempt by Saddam to buy Niger uranium. These documents turned out to be forgeries.

Nobody is asking: Why were these forgeries made and who made them?

They certainly served a purpose: they cast serious doubt on any theory that Saddam actually was after the uranium. After all, how could one propose that theory when supporting documents were shown to be forgeries? What bureaucrat in the CIA would risk his career proposing further investigation of a theory supported by fraudulent documents?

Now, months later, many people are still confused by this ploy, believing that US assertions were based on those documents (they weren't, they were based on British intelligence), and that the US (and George Bush) made those assertions based on documents they knew were forgeries.

Thus these forgeries have been damaging to Bush and no doubt to US credibility, even though the US immediately detected the forgery and never took them seriously!

Meanwhile, the British are claiming they have other evidence of the connection, and that they never even saw the forged documents before advising the US of the Niger connection. They are standing by their assertion that Saddam sought to purchase uranium from Niger.

Disinformation, which is what these documents were, is a standard technique of both warfare and intelligence.

US sources now suspect that at least one of the British sources was SDCE, the French intelligence service, who would not allow British MI6 to share the information with the US.

Were the French playing a clever disinformation game, forging the documents to deflect US probes? Certainly the French were hostile to US intentions towards Saddam, and had in the past sold Niger uranium to Iraq.

Or could it have been the Russians, also hostile, who are certainly masters in the game of disinformation?

How about a US intelligence agency seeking to provide a case for the Iraq war? This seems unlikely, since the forgeries were sure to be discovered, and furthermore this would have been only a tiny little item in a very large body of evidence against Iraq.

The investigative news organizations in the US who are so earnestly looking for culpability by Bush should use some of their vast resources to investigate who was behind these forgeries.

Posted by John Moore at July 13, 2003 11:45 PM
http://www.tinyvital.com/BlogArchives/000203.html

30 posted on 07/05/2008 6:57:14 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
This is not remarkable news- I believe this material was from Tuwaitha and the stockpile there dated back to the late 1970’s when Iraq bought Nigerien yellowcake to produce fuel for its Osirak facility - which Israel destroyed in 1979?

After DESERT STORM The UN had the Tuwaitha stockpile pretty much under its observation, if not outright control.

The controversy with Joe Wilson and Niger was over whether Iraq was planning an additional future yellowcake purchase -
this did not occur but plenty of good reporting indicated the prospects were at least explored by Iraq

which would have been necessary to establish a secret fuel materiel stockpile not under UN observation, possibly not even in Iraq but possibly in a country cooperating with Iraq (Libya?)

31 posted on 07/05/2008 7:05:07 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tillacum

that is inaccurate

The Wilsons disputed reports that Iraq was seeking a new SECOND large purchase of yellowcake, and Joe contended thatt Niger would NOT cooperate with Iraq if it did so and the the French were in control of the mines and would not allow this to happen anyway

As if people did not know how actively the french were involved in the Iraqi osirak project, which was fueled with Nigerien yellowcake purchased in the 1970’s and as if the french have changed their stripes in being anti-US and pro arab since then

There was in Iraq a large stockpile of yellowcake used in Iraq’s nuclear program of the 1970’s, at Tuwaitha. This was known and was under ostensible UN control after DESERT STORM

The secrecy of this reported US operation is (was) probably intended to avoid embarrassing the current Iraq regime which will now look “weak” and under US control, for giving up this material


32 posted on 07/05/2008 7:12:59 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: zeestephen

it was probably UN and european and russian and chinese obfuscation which kept the US from cleaning out Tuwaitha after DESERT STORM and removing the material especially while Saddam was still in power- remember oil for food and how many UN (and euro socialist and russian and chinese etc) officials and votes Saddam bought and paid for?

Tuwaitha was a matter for the UN nuc proliferation/monitoring agency (Hans Blix and his successor)- The yellowcake at Tuwaitha had UN seals on it. However, security of the site was breached and I believe all bets were off in the immediate aftermath of the US invasion

Why would Saddam have sought a second yellowcake purchase? So that if and when his nuc program was getting in stage for for fuel enrichment, he would have established a new stockpile somewhere the UN would not be monitoring and controlling his activity, perhaps even at a facility somewhere outside of Iraq.


33 posted on 07/05/2008 7:21:44 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

So why are that useless maggot and his dippy wife still walking around free?


34 posted on 07/05/2008 7:39:15 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: silverleaf

In 1998 Saddam kicked the UN out and there was nothing preventing Saddam from reconstituting their nuke program if he wanted to just remove the seals and get the uranium.
Contrary to Wilson’s notion, President Bush only claimed British Intelligence claimed Saddam sought uranium from Niger. He never said they got it but it would have been reasonable that Saddam at the very least inquired being that his Uranium was under scrutiny.


35 posted on 07/05/2008 7:41:05 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: silverleaf
silverleaf, thanks.

I am still astonished.

We would never have allowed Saddam to build a reactor or a uranium processing plant, so his 550 tons of yellowcake was useless, except as seed grain for atomic weapons.

Allowing a violent sociopath to keep any amount of uranium, in any form, cannot be rationally explained.

36 posted on 07/05/2008 7:44:25 PM PDT by zeestephen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

And it is actually posted by the AP via MSNBC’s web site... impressive.


37 posted on 07/05/2008 7:48:54 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TheBattman

They’ll find a way to explain why this isn’t a WMD.


38 posted on 07/05/2008 8:04:00 PM PDT by scrabblehack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: ETL

ping


39 posted on 07/05/2008 8:19:42 PM PDT by JessieHelmsJr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: marron

awesome links dude..


40 posted on 07/05/2008 9:33:19 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Kuwait where the Weather is over a 120 F and we don't sweat it!! It's the sand we are afraid off!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: musicman

Reminds me of Wacky Packs from the '70's

41 posted on 07/05/2008 9:33:56 PM PDT by BreezyDog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: zeestephen
He also was allowed to keep the explosives used to detonate his nuclear device. And TONS of that stockpile went missing at the Iraqi nuclear warehouse when the IAEA showed up in 2003 before the war.
42 posted on 07/05/2008 9:41:06 PM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: zeestephen

Why did Bush Sr. not go after the troublemaker who invaded Kuwait?

GHWB is the one responsible for his son’s predicament. I also believe the terrorism of the 1990’s wouldn’t have happened.

Not going after Saddam and his gang was a dumb-ass thing to do. imho


43 posted on 07/05/2008 9:47:19 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to Impeach Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; keep your eye on these House hearings.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Bookmark for all the arguments I’m going to start tomorrow with every liberal I see.


44 posted on 07/05/2008 10:59:36 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SERKIT
Joe was too busy drinking sweet mint tea and being fed BS from the Niger government stooges.

Never send an ambassador to do a spy's job.

45 posted on 07/05/2008 11:00:40 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

So, when Valerie Plame sent her low-level diplomat husband, Joe Wilson, to go have cocktails with other low-level diplomats in Niger and they told him that Iraq was not seeking to buy yellowcake uranium, he believed them?

LOL, what a chump!


46 posted on 07/05/2008 11:11:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
Contrary to Wilson’s notion, President Bush only claimed British Intelligence claimed Saddam sought uranium from Niger.

IIRC, Wilson actually confirmed Bush's claim that the uranium was sought. He simply denied that the sale had actually taken place. But Bush never said it did.

47 posted on 07/05/2008 11:13:52 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: ETL

Great post!

It only underscores what a weak coward Bush is when it comes to standing up for himself (and thereby standing up for the rest of us who voted for him twice). Those quotes should have been included in at least twenty of his Saturday radio addresses, and repeated in hundreds of White House press releases.

But no - - most of us will only read those quotes, and this story about the recovered yellowcake, here at Free Republic.

Glad I checked in and stumbled onto this headline.


48 posted on 07/05/2008 11:18:40 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog
"Reminds me of Wacky Packs from the '70's"

Wacky Packs

49 posted on 07/06/2008 4:57:17 AM PDT by musicman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Lancey Howard
and this story about the recovered yellowcake...

As others have pointed out the recovered yellowcake was apparently known about for decades.

See:
"This is not remarkable news- I believe this material was from Tuwaitha and the stockpile there dated back to the late 1970’s when Iraq bought Nigerien yellowcake to produce fuel for its Osirak facility - which Israel destroyed in 1979(?) After DESERT STORM The UN had the Tuwaitha stockpile pretty much under its observation, if not outright control."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2041287/posts?page=31#31

50 posted on 07/06/2008 5:17:13 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-65 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson