Posted on 07/05/2008 9:59:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Two weeks ago, Newsweek released a poll showing Barack Obama 15 points ahead of John McCain. Days later, the Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll showed a similar gap.
Yet over at Gallup, the daily tracking poll showed the two presumptive presidential nominees remain in a statistical tie, although early last week Obama did start to break a nickel ahead of McCain.
The question that arises for the average person watching this race is, why the zero to 15-point difference in polling data? Is one poll more accurate than the other?
“All polls are not created equally,” says Republican pollster Neil Newhouse. “How a poll is conducted and its attention to detail is extraordinarily important.”
Newhouse explains that accurate sampling is critical and the lack of it explains the wild differences in polling data.
“Senior citizens represent around 21 percent of the electorate, yet some polls include far more than that percent in their polling simply because seniors are easier to reach on the phone,” he says.
“Ignoring details like that can skew results from poll to poll,” says the Democrats’ legendary media consultant Dane Strother.
Another reason why early polls are all over the map “and downright suspicious,” Strother says, is because people don’t know what the “screen” is.
Simply put, a screen is who is or is not allowed to participate in the poll.
Without knowing the screen or the way that questions are phrased, Strother says you really can’t tell if a poll captures a true reflection of attitudes, “which explains why these polls are all over the place.”
Newhouse and Strother agree that the only polls that are truly accurate must have “likely voters” asked the question as part of the equation, not just the ambiguous “adults,” which are the easier of the two to sample.
Newspaper polls typically are described as “snapshots in time” that do not account for the ongoing flow of a campaign. Consequently, they can spike in one direction or another, depending on the news being reported during the survey period.
For example, a survey conducted on the Friday and Saturday of the “Unity” event in New Hampshire would be tainted by Sen. Hillary Clinton’s endorsement of Obama.
In contrast, the Gallup poll is a “tracking survey” that is taken nightly, reflecting the mood over a three- or four-night period -- and resulting in a more even view of the electorate and its impressions of the race.
Then there are “push” polls, which are not really polls at all. Instead, they’re a mechanism designed not to determine voters’ opinions but to disseminate negative information about a candidate in order to move voters away from that candidate.
One of the flaws in polls is how they are weighted and what makes up the sample; if a pollster oversamples a party or demographic, the result is misleading numbers. There also is the sticky situation of how a pollster determines turnout, a not-so-scientific exercise that requires being able to measure intensity among voters -- which is about as easy as capturing lightning in a bottle.
Newhouse and Strother agree that polls right now have zero value, expect perhaps for the guy on top who can send out press releases touting his lead.
This year, because Americans will have the option to vote for the first black president, race will be yet another factor in deciphering voter trends.
No one has done more research on blacks in political campaigns than Strother, who has consulted against former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke in Louisiana; he understands the complexities of polling during a campaign with race as part of the equation.
“No one wants to be seen as a bigot, especially someone who is not a bigot, but neither do those that are,” he says. “Sometimes there is a fear as a pollster that you are being told what people think you want to hear.”
He says one way to avoid that reaction is to ask, “I recognize that you would vote for someone no matter what their race is, but would one of your neighbors vote for someone who is black?”
That offers a good gauge of how someone will vote, he says, because “their answer is very telling about their otherwise closely held views.”
Yet for all the science that will go into trying to analyze what will happen, the answer may lie in one simple question: How badly do we really want change?
While that question seems to favor Obama, especially given today’s economy and President Bush’s unfavorability, “change” remains one of those tricky words that mean a whole lot of different things, positive and negative, to different people.
It’s all in the delivery -- just ask any pollster who has used it in a survey.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
One poll makes you larger and
One poll makes you small
And the ones that the LA times do
Don’t mean anything at all
I agree. Though I think in the end McCain will win. There are too many negatives against Obama: his race, his history, his positions. For many, it will be a vote against Obama, not a vote for McCain, who will be seen as the lesser evil.
And if you go chasing voters
And they know you’re going to call
Tell ‘em all hookah smoking senators
Say you’ll win in the fall
The GOP can thank providence that McCain is facing Obama. If literally anybody else had been the nominee—Hillary Gore, Kerry, whomever—it would be a Democrat landslide, and Ronald Reagan himself wouldn’t be able to turn the tide. As it stands, I think McCain wins in a nailbiter.
A Newsweek poll in 1984 had Walter Mondale ahead of Ronald Reagan by 18%. Michael Dukakis lead George HW Bush by 17 points in late July, 1988. So,Obama’s lead may be the weakest a Democrat has had at this stage in decades.
ONE HUNDRED PER CENT CORRECT-Which is why many of us used to get into such heated debates about the idiotic “Operation CHAOS”. We narrowly dodged eight...more...LONG..years. Even though everyone has known since carpetbagger Hillary first ran for senator they were going to pull their end run around the Constitution... morons STILL voted to put them back in office. I’m not voting for them in November, but I THANK GOD for the Obamas-they’ve finally freed us from my worst nightmare-and many ‘conservatives’ tried their best to help make it happen..
Energy prices may determine who gets the House, as well. Anyone who wants to be re-elected is going to have to break with the no drill policies. Even if they try and blame the Rs, the donks own the no-drill position.
By reducing Obama's state poll results by 1.25% and increasing McCain's state poll results by the same 1.25%, the race becomes a tie.
Maybe my model assumptions are suspect, but I'm concluding that it doesn't take much playing with the state poll numbers right now to drastically change the outcome at the national level.
-PJ
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