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Obama's own voice may haunt him
Politico ^ | July 6, 2008 | David Mark & Kenneth P. Vogel

Posted on 07/06/2008 4:53:16 AM PDT by Eurale

Barack Obama has proven a difficult target to hit—just ask Hillary Clinton. Opposition researchers, though, hope that they’ve found a weapon to wound Obama in his own voice as recorded for the Grammy Award-winning audio version of his 1995 memoir, “Dreams from My Father.” While candidates often have their own words turned against them in attack ads, it’s one thing to see past statements in bloc text and something else entirely to hear the same words in the office-seeker’s own voice.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; hughhewitt; obama; obamatruthfile

1 posted on 07/06/2008 4:53:17 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Eurale

I like the one clip about him seeking out Marxist professors.


2 posted on 07/06/2008 4:59:11 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: CalvaryJohn

This is news to me - please elaborate. Thanks!


3 posted on 07/06/2008 5:00:58 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Eurale

Ya just got to love the narcissist in some people when it can come back to bite them in the a$$.


4 posted on 07/06/2008 5:01:09 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Eurale
Seems like a prerequisite for being President is getting high, the war on drugs be damed.
5 posted on 07/06/2008 5:03:12 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Eurale

http://www.newzleech.com/?mode=usenet&retention=&q=Dreams%20from%20My%20Father


6 posted on 07/06/2008 5:03:12 AM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: Eurale

It’s true- reading his book is one thing- but hearing his voice gives a clarity that no amount of “calibration” can change..


7 posted on 07/06/2008 5:05:55 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: freeangel

It doesn’t matter. McCain wants to “play nice” so I doubt that we will see these statements being used in ads. The GOP doesn’t have the spine to run this campaign the way it needs to be run.


8 posted on 07/06/2008 5:06:28 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: CalvaryJohn
“I kept playing basketball, attended classes sparingly, drank beer heavily, and tried drugs enthusiastically… If the high didn’t solve whatever it was that was getting you down,” Obama intones, “it could at least help you laugh at the world’s ongoing folly.”

This one's rich, too... I'm actually forcing myself to read the awful book. Better to know the enemy. It is truly, awful.

9 posted on 07/06/2008 5:06:35 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( When you find yourself going through Hell, keep going!)
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To: SE Mom

Yes, you hear some statements in that audio book that just beg to be used in a negative campaign ad.


10 posted on 07/06/2008 5:09:19 AM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: Eurale

Frank Luntz is on F&F doing a review of campaign ads.

[LOL. First up is Obama’s. BHO pulls the ‘white’ grandparents out from other the bus, again. Amazing how he finds the ‘white’ side of his heritage, when in need.]

O’s ad is O talking about his heritage, yada yada yada.

McCain’s ad uses a voice-over announcer.

Luntz concludes that O’s is more effective, because it uses O’s voice. McCain’s loses effectiveness because it is the announcer, not McCain, who is presenting the text.

[Luntz, IIRC, even in the primaries, was sort of like Chris Matthews. Luntz seems to have a similar tingling down his leg every time he presented anything regarding Obama.]


11 posted on 07/06/2008 5:22:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Russ
McCain wants to “play nice” so I doubt that we will see these statements being used in ads.

IIRC, Dole took the high road in 96, and we know how 'nice' that was.


12 posted on 07/06/2008 5:27:02 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Eurale

Obama’s books have been in the marketplace for years. I read “Dreams” a couple of years ago before he catapulted to the national stage. He can deflect criticism by claiming “old news” and he has always been candid about the fact that he is not perfect and had a troubled youth because he was bi-racial, and so on. People will not hold this against him, IMO.

Rather than waste time with this, I think it’s more effective to nail him on his flip-flopping and on his far left stances on issues. There is more than enough there to do a whole cycle of campaign ads.


13 posted on 07/06/2008 5:27:14 AM PDT by randita
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To: Eurale

The things he has said during the past few months are enough to make anyone NOT vote for him. The one that really bothered me was:

“We live in the greatest nation in the world. Vote for me and help me change it.”

That should have made every voter ask a question. Just WHAT do you want to change the US into? Another third world country?


14 posted on 07/06/2008 5:49:10 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for any Democrat from BO on down the ticket is a vote for $10 a gallon gas.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
It was nObama’s comment about not being allowed to keep our thermostat at 72 that bothers me. How dare he!!!!
15 posted on 07/06/2008 5:51:25 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Arrowhead1952

A chocolate country, imho.


16 posted on 07/06/2008 5:51:45 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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IMO the right tack at this point is to use anything in the book ( I have not read it) that relates to his far leftist leanings, which include Wright...paint it as a return to the leftist 70s. When Obama responds by pointing out his shifts to the center, hit him with the “same old politician charge” and attack his “change” message.

If it works it could eventually get the Obama campaign in a pin ball situation between the far left, his past ideology and his current position changes. The hypocrisy angle. He also is actually weak on the economy, but the GOP has been terrible at explaining the economy for years. Obama might get away with blaming Bush tax cuts for the “recession” because no one on the right can explain it in soundbyte form.

Obama is vulnerable in debates, but McCain isn’t great either.

That might be the key for McCain, to pick a VP that can sell the right vs left economic approach. He has the military covered.


17 posted on 07/06/2008 6:05:10 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Arrowhead1952
“We live in the greatest nation in the world. Vote for me and help me change it.”

That's a very telling quote. Here's another, and he said it in almost every stump speech: "I believe in capitalism, BUT..."

18 posted on 07/06/2008 6:05:28 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great (until it happens to YOU)...)
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To: Migraine
“We live in the greatest nation in the world. Vote for me and help me change it.”

Obama didn't say this.
19 posted on 07/06/2008 6:06:08 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Arrowhead1952
Just WHAT do you want to change the US into? Another third world country?

More likely, Europe. Socialist, atheist, pacifist, easy-pickins for commies, benefits-industry-types, multiculturists, islamists and assorted cookie-cutter losers.

20 posted on 07/06/2008 6:08:33 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great (until it happens to YOU)...)
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To: randita
I agree - no real need to go back into his past when we have him giving contradicting statements - on video - mere weeks or months apart.
21 posted on 07/06/2008 6:10:14 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: aruanan; Migraine
“We live in the greatest nation in the world. Vote for me and help me change it.”

Obama didn't say this.

That may not be the exact quote, but it was something very similar.

22 posted on 07/06/2008 6:10:54 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for any Democrat from BO on down the ticket is a vote for $10 a gallon gas.)
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To: aruanan
Obama didn't say this.

I think it is more of a distillation and a logical extension of broader comments. No one but John Kerry would utter the contradiction in a single sentence. What is your take on it, BTW?

23 posted on 07/06/2008 6:13:34 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great (until it happens to YOU)...)
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To: Arrowhead1952
That may not be the exact quote, but it was something very similar.

It was written by a Canadian who sent it to Mark Steyn as part of an all-purpose stump speech for the 2008 cycle. It's been sent all over the place in emails attributing it to Obama.
24 posted on 07/06/2008 6:15:20 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Migraine
I think it is more of a distillation and a logical extension of broader comments. No one but John Kerry would utter the contradiction in a single sentence. What is your take on it, BTW?

If Obama admits the U.S. is a great place, then why does he find it necessary to change it? If there are particular aspects about it that need to be changed, then he needs to identify them. The problem is that none of them is liberal/socialist and identifying traditional U.S. values as bad would be bad for him politically. Because of this he uses empty bucket words like hope and change and expects people to put into them whatever meaning they want and then believe he, Obama, is referring to that. He's a con artist, though not a particularly good one. Virtually all of his success has been because of people like Emil Jones doing things for him in the hopes of cashing in later. As Jones told an acquaintance, "I'm going to make a U.S. Senator,"referring to Obama. To give Obama some kind of legislative history, Jones took bills away from those who did all the work and gave them to Obama to sponsor.
25 posted on 07/06/2008 6:25:13 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Eurale

and the RATS, take another one in the..................HA ha!!!

26 posted on 07/06/2008 7:07:47 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Eurale

27 posted on 07/06/2008 8:38:14 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Eurale
I'm with you on this all the way.

Abortion is liberally sanctioned murder.

28 posted on 07/06/2008 8:41:18 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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