Clown Shoes!
Posted on 07/06/2008 9:14:00 AM PDT by shrinkermd
WASHINGTON -- Mississippi, one of the nation's most conservative states, has not elected a Democratic senator in a quarter-century. It has voted for Republican presidential candidates in the last seven elections.
But this year, there is a real chance that the state will send a Democrat to the Senate.
Democrats are running strong Senate campaigns in states such as Mississippi, Alaska and North Carolina that Republicans have long taken for granted.
...The stakes for Obama in the Senate races are high. If he is elected president, the biggest obstacle to his goals could be in the Senate, where parliamentary rules mean that it can take 60 votes to approve legislation. The Senate currently includes 49 Democrats and two independents who are aligned with the Democratic caucus
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An Obambi presidency with 60+ ‘Rat Senators would be just the right prescription for those who only want to punish the GOP in 2008. We’d be in great shape in 4-8 years when the conservative reaction sets in......
Questions:
Are the republicans being replaced liberal or conservative?
Are the democrat candidates liberal or conservative?
I am a republican, but I’ll vote for a conservative candidate from either party.
Time will tell, as it always does.
The McCain effect: McCain will depress GOP turnout and we will see record black turnout. This is the consequence of nominating the party’s maverick as its standard bearer.
If the Senate turnover is that bad the RINOs will have nobody but themselves to blame. It’s obvious they don’t give a damn about us but you would think they would care about holding on to their power. They are too stupid to do either.
At least in Mississippi, Musgrove is a strong social conservative in that he is against gay marriage, for the public display of “In God We Trust” and for the public display of the Ten Commandments.
You are, though, on to something. In Minnesota, the losses have been to more conservative Democrats. Seemingly, being prolife and anti gay marriage is enough for some to switch allegiances to the RATS.
Michael Dukakis led by 28% in 1988—do these a$$es never tire of propogandizing and manipulation?
Fat Teddy won’t be in it.
Social conservatives are not the same as fiscal conservatives who are not the same as limited government conservatives and who are not the same as security types.
There are certainly people who fall into more than one category though.
Quite right, and if I must choose, I will vote for a fiscal conservative over a social conservative. A fiscal conservative is most often a constitutional loyalist and won’t support funding gov’t intervention in social issues.
With a black socialist at the top of their ticket, the Dims will lose, with Obama pulling down every Dim candidate. McCain will win and the losses in the Senate and House will be much smaller than predicted. There may even be some Republican gains in Congress.
Virginia will likely replace a RINO with a liberal Dem even though he’s running against a conservative Republican.
Amazing how Ronald Reagan brought those groups together, but how the securit/social types have gone left and decided that Big Government is the way to go. It would be wonderful to have someone pull things back together—Ronald Reagan’s message was clear and simple—but I wonder if it’s too far gone. FR seems to indicate that many feel that “conservatism” is just another form of liberalism, and that we need to government as a big solution-creator.
Stop with the facts! You're interfere with the Ostrich Brigade's cry that everything is fine.
I think Elizabth Dole (NC) is in trouble too.
Any Democrat elected to the Senate, no matter how conservative s/he appears in the election, would serve to further empower Reid and the Democrat committee chairs. Imagine a veto-proof President Obama.
Webb in VA ran as a conservative, Casey in PA ran as a conservative. When they get to Washington they are told what to do and how to vote, and they dare not act in any other way if they seek certain committee appointments or any other perks of power that would be Reid’s to impart.
Me too. I will vote for the most fiscal conservative running - no matter what party they belong to. At least with someone who is fiscally conservative - you get rid of a lot of the socially liberal crap programs. This is where the current GOP has screwed up royally - they spend like liberals, and it will cost them the election this time around, I'm afraid.
There are no coat-tails to ride on this year.
You said it in a nutshell, and very well too.
It would be very easy to right the ship and avoid the losses being predicted. March to this drumbeat: “drill here, drill now”....
Well, if things pan out as the trend is going, and the Dems. get to 57 or 58 in the Senate, then thank God for the filibuster rule in the Seante.
In retrospect, maybe it was a good thing that the Republicans didn’t pull the trigger on the “nuclear option” on the judicial confirmations in the spring of ‘05. If they had been able to vote to ban the filibuster for judges then, it may have led the way to banning the filibuster for other things too.
If we have a President Obama, Democrat House, and Democrat Senate, then the filibuster will be the key weapon to keep President Obama from going too far left.
You don't belong to a party you don't agree with, and the Dems are socialist to the core.
Yes, but then, we had the great Lee Atwater. Who are the clowns running Mac's campaign now?
The first thing that Obama would do is enact a new fairness doctrine into law. That would make Talk radio and Internet sites like FR illegal. They would make Hate Speech a crime. Hate speech would be defined as criticising the goverment or elected officals.
Those too young or ignorant to remember, need to learn that during WWII Franklin Roosevelt got a law passed saying all stories on WWII had to be approved by Censors appointed by Roosevelt. The punishment for airing a war story that was not approved by the censors was death by firing squad. I'll bet you are suprised to know there were no stories critical of WWII during WWII.
They tell us how popular WWII was.. But no censor would approve of any story that did not praise the way the war was being waged.
Then during the VietNam war LBJ had enacted what he called the Fairness Doctrine. That meant before you could air a radio or tv editoral on an "issue of public importance" the station had to find people who were opposed to that position and give them all equal time.. They had to get equal time at the same time the editorial aired.
But what if you failed to find or even know about a differing opinon and did not put that opinion on the air at the same time as the editoria aired. Then you were in violation of the Fairness doctrine. The punishment were fines and prison terms.
But what were the issues of public importance. They would not tell a station until after they aired the report. And what was not an issue of public importance yesterday, could be today.. there was no way to tell before the report was aired.
Reagan managed to get the fairness doctrine over turned. The Rush Limbaugh show was illegal in 1986. Rush would have been put in prison for what he now does every day.
This time they will apply it not only to radio and Tv But to the internet as well. That means before you could post on FR you would need to find all the people opposed to your post and post them all on at the same time you posted yours. Allowing all people to give their views did not comply with the fairness doctrice. You had to find them first. Get their views and you had to post them with yours.
That would make FR liberal posts out number conservative posts by about 5 to 1. Plus in less than a week Jim Rob would be in prison as would those foolish enough to post their views.
Does anyone with a brain not believe that Obama would not make free speech in opposition to his administration into HATE SPEACH and punish it into non existance? Some don't think he would. They are ignorant of the past.
They have to be ignorant of what people from the middle east do.
Like the Soviet Union we might get rid of the oppression of free speech in say 70 or 80 years. But not likely before then.
People who think.. let them take over and then we will get it back, are thinking like those that let Hitler take over Germany. They were sure than in a short time they would be back in power. But Hitlers firing squads brought that possibility to an end.
Those that think they can watchObama failand get rejected by the people are ingnorant of history. Obama defines failure as your surviving his first attack.. but not his second.
She is. Dole’s opponent is running on a stong anti-illegal immigration policy claiming that Dole has not been tough enough!!!
Clown Shoes!
So the people in Mississippi really likes $5/gal gasoline I guesss.
The Dems can change the rules in a heartbeat. They just might if they have 57 or 58 senators and the MSM will support them.
If Gordon Smith's campaign in Oregon, where he is running ads touting his work with Obama and his eagerness to "reach across the aisle" to "get things done", is any indication, the GOP's problems (and the country's) are worse than anyone can imagine.
Elizabeth voted against drilling as well... to save the tourist industry in NC. but alas no gas... no tourists..
While what you say sounds good, the historical facts show that once various programs are enacted and put in place, even a Republican majority in Congress and a Republican President are not able to reverse the damages inflicted upon the country.
OF COURSE, the Democrat newsrooms will support them.
We are in the early innings of the endgame for nanny state welfare societies. The social welfare society is already breaking down in Europe and the US is close on it’s heels. I’m just as happy to have Democrats in control as it all comes crashing down. It ain’t gonna be pretty, but it’s coming.
They will run Democrats that claim to be “conservatives”, but when they get to the House and Senate, they will vote with Pelosi and Reid every step of the way. After pulling this in the ‘06 election, it’s such a transparent bait and switch that only the most ignorant voters would fall for it again.
Very good point.
It’s early days yet, just be patient, I have a feeling Obama is going to say or do something that will sink the boat he is floating on. He has flip-flopped majorly in this past week, hope he keeps up the good work and his ship sinks.
That's not as many people as it would appear.
Hillary got around 18 million votes. Assume 70% were women (considerably higher than reality, especially factoring in Operation Chaos). That's 12.6 million. 1/3 of them is 4.2 million voters, divided across the country.
That's 4.2 million voters out of more than 120 million who voted in 2004.
Now the polls I've seen were all taken right after Hillary dropped out, which is probably when emotions were at their height. My guess is that a substantial percentage of that 4.2 million will probably hold their noses and vote for BO, the same conclusion Republicans who said they'd never vote for McCain are reaching.
It will truly be TOO LATE in 4-8 years! The Fairness Doctrine being fully implemented and illegal immigrants being given the legal right to vote in all future U.S. elections will both help to kill off all of U.S. conservatism forever! This optimism of “just wait two to eight years and then conservatism will make a great comeback” is NUTS, and too many people still don’t see the full calibur of long-term damage that a majority of socialistic politicians will truly create throughout the U.S. when they really do have majority power and nobody to stop them!
That is an oxymoron. There is no longer such thing as a conservative Democrat. One of the last ones seen alive was Strom Thurmond, but that ended in 1964.
The Republican party is run by arrogant idiots.
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LOL.
You guess they do, because some leftist scribler at the L.A. Times says so?
Order up an FR coffee cup, and have a hot cup of black java my FRiend.
Such reporting is the regular template from the lefties prior to every election. They have all their “Doom and gloom for the Republicans!” stories saved, and just call them up, change some names, and publish them in the hopes of demoralizing Republicans.
Don't fall for such baloney.
Look how well it worked after the 1930 Congressional elections; The GOP remained in the minority for two decades.
But, since the Dems. were strongly opposed to changing the filibuster rules in ‘05, how could they justify changing it in ‘09 assuming that they have increased numbers in the Senate? Wouldn’t it be an obvious power grab if they tried to do it, after so strongly opposing it when Republicans were in charge?
Yeah, and 2-3 fresh Ruth Ginsbergs on the SCOTUS for the next 30-40 years? No thanks. Vote McCain or we are f**ked.
Jim Webb is pro-gun and pro-life. Would you support him? Ben Nelson? It just doesn't work.
This is typical LA times meant to depress Republicans and embolden Democrats. This is far too early to give up any ground. What should be the discussion is how do we stop these dire liberal predictions from becoming true? Get out there and promote conservatives who are running for Senate. We whine about not having conservatives in the Senate, well we have many running this go round. Jim Gilmore in Virginia, Jim Risch in Idaho, Bob Schaffer in Colorado, and on and on. Elections are only won by chance when you refuse to fight. Conservatives should not be retreating. Liberalism has not won the day in the hearts and minds of Americans. It is the message that has become clouded. Liberals win when no one knows what they really stand for and Conservative lose for the same reason. We probably have the most conservative slate of Republicans running for the Senate in a long time.
Do we give up because the Los Angeles Times says all is lost? I think not.
Good point about the courts. The next president will almost certainly have two appointments to the Supreme Court, and maybe more. Who would you rather appoint the successors to John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, as they almost certainly will retire in the next four years?
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