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'The New York Times Wants America to Lose'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 07/06/2008 10:25:21 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Why would the New York Times divulge information that could prove harmful to the national security of the United States? Because, so consumed is the paper by its hatred of President Bush, that the Times actually wants America to lose. Such is the considered opinion Jim Pinkerton expressed on yesterday's Fox News Watch. The case in point was an article the Times published on June 30, 2008, Amid U.S. Policy Disputes, Qaeda Grows in Pakistan, which quoted from a "highly-classified Pentagon order" describing internal disputes at the Pentagon over plans to capture Osama Bin Laden and defeat al Qaeda.

JIM PINKERTON: We endanger national security when you leak sources and methods. For example, the story that Cal [Thomas] alluded to before, about the wiretaps across the world.

JANE HALL: That's a different deal.

PINKERTON: OK. I think—just a hunch—that the New York Times hates the Bush administration so much that they want us to lose, that's what I think.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; americahaters; antiamerica; jimpinkerton; newyorktimes; presidentbush; propagandawindofdnc

1 posted on 07/06/2008 10:25:21 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

NY Times wants America to lose: Pinkerton ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 07/06/2008 10:26:35 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

May the NY Times go belly up and out of business permanently.


3 posted on 07/06/2008 10:27:22 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
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4 posted on 07/06/2008 10:28:50 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thank you for printing that message and thanks to Pinkerton who voiced his concern.

While Pinkerton is the last one I thought would take a stand for the obvious regarding the insane behavior of our media in this nation - I am pleased as he is not the bullying type and as such may carry more weight than a Limbaugh or a Hannity op-ed.

That made my day! Thank you thank you.


5 posted on 07/06/2008 10:29:14 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It’s about time this treasonous “newspaper” finally closed down.


6 posted on 07/06/2008 10:29:20 AM PDT by monkeycard (There's no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

‘The New York Times Wants America to Lose’

Does anyone have that “Captain Obvious” photo?


7 posted on 07/06/2008 10:29:20 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Tagline Removed by Moderator)
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To: DarthVader
We need more than that. The NYT hates us. We hate the NYT. There can be only one.

I propose that insofar as is possible individuals begin launching lawsuits of whatever kind against the publisher, his lackeys, the managers, stockholders, family members, employees, and newsstand vendors who carry the NYT.

Use "Death by Lawyer" to penalize them in a way that counts ~ and will serve as a warning to other "newsies" who turncoat. Think of it as a massive "stop and squat".

8 posted on 07/06/2008 10:30:08 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I agree with Pinkerton. The Times is loaded and lead by rabid
Bush haters. The ones that don’t personally agree go along to get along.


9 posted on 07/06/2008 10:33:15 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I wouldn’t be disappointed if Sulzberger had an unfortunate accident and his treasonous rag went bankrupt.


10 posted on 07/06/2008 10:33:16 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: imintrouble

My pleasure. Pinkerton has been an outspoken critic of the MSM, by the way.


11 posted on 07/06/2008 10:33:55 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Yes, it was a good show. I haven’t watched it for a long time due to that rabid Neil guy. When I say he was a no show I stayed tuned. It was a good segment. Kudos to both Pinkerton and Cal. At last a spade is being called a spade, at least in some circles.


12 posted on 07/06/2008 10:34:53 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well sir you made my day - and thanks again.

I see Cal Thomas got his own brand of slam in at the very end of the vidclip too!

Think I’ll celebrate with a coffee!


13 posted on 07/06/2008 10:37:53 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: Chgogal

You can watch in peace now: Neal Gabler is off the show; his contract was not renewed.


14 posted on 07/06/2008 10:38:01 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You are kidding me? Now that is the best news I have heard in a bit. Have the shows been a good as this one?


15 posted on 07/06/2008 10:41:14 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So who is the second lefty, in addition to the reasonable Jane Hall?


16 posted on 07/06/2008 10:43:42 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

He’s right.


17 posted on 07/06/2008 10:47:44 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If that traitorous garbage wrapper had known of and dared to print that an invasion of Normandy Beach was imminent during WWII,J.Edgar Hoover’s agents would have dragged those scum out in handcuffs so fast,it would have made their heads spin. That rag has been Pro-Red since Durante whitewashed Stalin’s genocide of Ukrainians. Now it seems that TREASON is covered by the First Amendment! God Help America.


18 posted on 07/06/2008 10:48:38 AM PDT by NYCON
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To: Chgogal

As someone who writes about the liberal media, I actually miss Neal’s presence: he was surefire grist for the mill. I think the show has lost some of its edge since he left.


19 posted on 07/06/2008 10:48:40 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This wrong. The NYT doesn't want all America to lose.

They are just stupid enough to think that if certain Americans lose then the rest of Americans can build the Socialist Utopian they dream of and the rest of the world will love them and wish them no harm.

20 posted on 07/06/2008 10:51:13 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Patricia Murphy is from Citizen Jane, which bills itself as a non-partisan website designed to help women educate themselves about politics. She is a former aide to Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.).


21 posted on 07/06/2008 10:52:10 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Who is the traitor who leaked it to the times?


22 posted on 07/06/2008 10:54:44 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

(Why would the New York Times divulge information that could prove harmful to the national security of the United States?)

Why would they not. Their agernda is not for America as founded. It is for the Socialist agenda they want to use to destroy America as founded and turn it into an extensin of the EU..


23 posted on 07/06/2008 10:58:24 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran.........)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
Who is the traitor who leaked it to the times?

That is the real question here - find that scum sucking dog and shoot whoever it is...

24 posted on 07/06/2008 11:02:44 AM PDT by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Come on NY Times


25 posted on 07/06/2008 11:07:06 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’ve said it before. One of the administration’s failures was to not handle the actions from the msm, especially the nyt, and the dems as the treason that it was.


26 posted on 07/06/2008 11:10:22 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Obama recently was quoting Mark Twain chastising conservatives: “Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it”.

Speak of Freudian slip - it's Obama and his fellow so-called liberals who actually wouldn't mind their country ruined provided it will hurt the government they don't like.

27 posted on 07/06/2008 11:16:18 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; governsleastgovernsbest
More than 40 years ago I got a good grade on a college paper critiquing the objectivity of various news outlets. I selected the New York Times as a standard of objectivity and arranged the other outlets to its right or left. This was before the Vietnam era and before the assassination of John F. Kennedy. In those days of yore, we lived on the other side of a Continental divide in a happier land where you could actually trust The New York Times.

In the decades since, The Times has debauched into demagoguery and worse, its bias against its own country has now become so obvious to those who comment on national television to the effect that The New York Times is actually bent upon the defeat of America so that they dare declare it on television!

Such a thing would have been unimaginable when I wrote that paper. It was not my naïveté that held the New York Times up as the standard of objectivity, it really did regard itself as the newspaper of record and obligated to publish all the news that was fit to print. In the decades since, The New York Times has disclosed security secrets which compromised agents lives and very important secret programs designed to protect us against terrorist attacks.

Arguably, these disclosures were treasonous.

The paper has engaged in an affirmative action program which led to chicanery, outright lying, and plagiarism. So egregious have become the accumulated sins of the New York Times, all directly generated by its leftist obsessions, that it has become all right on television to say that you can't trust the New York Times and you can't trust it because it wants America to lose. The implication: you cannot trust the New York Times because it is treasonous.

The New York Times does not want us to lose because it hates George Bush so much. The New York Times hates George Bush so much because it wants us to lose. The New York Times wants us to lose so they can impose their hegemony on the world. They know that America stands as the last bulwark athwart their dream of One World multiculturalism.

Alas, the New York Times is only the "Congressional Record" of that movement. Their number is legion


28 posted on 07/06/2008 11:17:18 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So whats new?


29 posted on 07/06/2008 11:18:19 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: GunnyB; governsleastgovernsbest; MaryFromMichigan

Odds are that sen. rockefeller from WV is the designated leaker.


30 posted on 07/06/2008 11:22:39 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

“Who is the traitor who leaked it to the times?”

My bet’s on Jay Rockefeller.


31 posted on 07/06/2008 11:22:51 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: Jeff Chandler
‘The New York Times Wants America to Lose’

*** Does anyone have that “Captain Obvious” photo? **

yep...


32 posted on 07/06/2008 11:28:38 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: GunnyB

Re: # 24

PING! Those arrogant traitors could,and should be “persuaded” to give up their sources at the CIA,NSA et al. Who are they? How much were they paid? etc.,etc.
TREASON is TREASON,no matter how much the MSM tries to whitewash it! If the penalty was made to fit the crime,(in this cesspool of liberal permissivness) we can be damned certain that such actions would cease. Refusing to punish crime,is tantamount to condoning it! That gang at the Times should be sent to Gitmo,no excuses!

Semper Fi, GunnyB.


33 posted on 07/06/2008 11:35:23 AM PDT by NYCON
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Neal Gabler is off the show; his contract was not renewed.

I just might tune in again.

I don't like to waste my time watching shows which repeat the liberal talking points I can see on any other news program.

34 posted on 07/06/2008 11:36:58 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Tagline Removed by Moderator)
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The Nytimese as an ethnicity are extremely petty and cloistered. They rarely deign to interact with outsiders except to quiz and mock the stranger; it's a cover. They are dumber than doorknobs.

Their newspaper, however, has a nice feel (literally, or is it litterly?).

35 posted on 07/06/2008 11:48:45 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I can see your point if you get paid (so to speak) watching Neil the Moron. :)

Unfortunately, I was not getting paid to watch him. I only got high blood pressure from it since there was no “healthy” release for me. Neil Gabler certainly provided you much material. Oh my! Were you watching during the Rather/Bush TANG debacle?

What have you written to date about the media? I wonder if I have read it already?


36 posted on 07/06/2008 12:11:13 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader)
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To: eCSMaster
My bet’s on Jay Rockefeller.

That's not a bad guess. He has a history (NSA leaks), as does Senator Durbin (D-Al Quaeda).

37 posted on 07/06/2008 12:18:16 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
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To: nathanbedford
This was before the Vietnam era and before the assassination of John F. Kennedy. In those days of yore, we lived on the other side of a Continental divide in a happier land where you could actually trust The New York Times

Oh, you must mean back in the thirties when Walter Durante was reporting how the Soviet Union was the new paradise and Stalin never killed anyone in his consolidation of power, and the reports of all the prison camps were just an antiRussian slur.. Or maybe I have a different NY Times in mind.

38 posted on 07/06/2008 12:29:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The New York Nazi Times wants America to lose

But we already knew that?

39 posted on 07/06/2008 12:38:11 PM PDT by mainestategop
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ya think???


40 posted on 07/06/2008 12:50:45 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I've been under the impression that for several years now, the NY Times wants the US to lose the war. In fact, any time the NYT gets the chance to advance the owners' and editors' political agenda over national security, they've done so, going back to the 1960s.

Mark

41 posted on 07/06/2008 1:02:09 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: hinckley buzzard
You know, you are absolutely right, I had completely forgotten about the Pulitzer prize-winning Duranty and his cover up of Stalin's trials and mass murders in the Ukraine. Did not the New York Times also behave in a similar way at some point with Mao Tse tong?

Anyway, Duranty was before my time but that is no excuse for the lapse. Somehow, I do not recall the New York Times in the early 60s being so flagrantly biased but perhaps it is just my naivety at work after all.


42 posted on 07/06/2008 1:34:18 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Chgogal

Thanks for asking. I write at NewsBusters and cross-post my items here. Here’s a link to my archive at NewsBusters:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein


43 posted on 07/06/2008 2:06:51 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I don’t think hatred of Bush is the primary motivation. The NYT has been an enemy long before bush came along.


44 posted on 07/06/2008 2:14:03 PM PDT by Salman
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Wow! And you don't have high blood pressure? You are doing a fine job.

Do you remember in 2000 when MSM claimed Bush didn't have any “gravitas” to handle foreign affairs? I have not heard that with Obama. And if anyone is wet behind his ears, it's this guy. Well, I suppose a positive relationship with Ayers will qualify Obama to deal with Osama bin Laden in a thoughtful fair culturally sensitive manner. (Rolling eyes.)

45 posted on 07/06/2008 6:13:34 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

OF COURSE the New York Times wants America to lose. The NY Times sees a tanking economy and lots of body bags as a perfect recipe for getting more politicians from their party elected.

When the economy tanks and people lose their jobs, homes, and savings, they become dependent on government handouts and eventually become addicted to government. And, just as drug addicts keep going back to their dealers for a fix, government addicts likewise keep going back to THEIR dealers. That would be Democrat politicians. A tanking economy means more government addicts and therefore more votes for THEM, the Democrat politicians.

The New York Times wants more body bags just because the paper loves to use casualty figures as a weapon against Republicans and because the evil military uses up money that could otherwise be used by Democrat politicans to increase the parasite class, AKA, the Democrat party “base”.

This ain’t rocket surgery....


46 posted on 07/06/2008 6:26:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This isn’t news. This has been a fact since November 2000 when the NY Slimes became bitter about the loss of the White House to President Bush. The NY Slimes has been driving the bitterness in the country and pushing the “polls that mean nothing” as news for years.

Jim Pinkerton simply stated what we have known for years. The NY Slimes should have been shut down for treason several times shortly after we invaded Iraq for leaking sensitive military plans. On purpose. The NY Slimes hates America and we in turn hate the NY Slimes. Don’t pay for a single product they sell (a number of papers and websites like www.about.com), don’t buy anything from their advertisers (and find a way to let the advertisers know that they should take their money elsewhere because you don’t support media outlets that hate America and you won’t support advertisers who support their cause.

Die NY Slimes Die. A quick and painful death.


47 posted on 07/07/2008 12:32:51 PM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Rush the Vote. Operation Chaos rules. "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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