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COMMENTARY: Quandry for Catholics At Election Time
Catholic online ^ | 6/7/08 | Dr. Robert Stackpole

Posted on 07/06/2008 3:32:45 PM PDT by tcg

The Catholic Bishops make it very clear in “Faithful Citizenship” that not all issues facing Americans today are of equal value. In section 37 of their document they write: “In making decisions, it is essential for Catholics to be guided by a well-formed conscience that recognizes that all issues do not carry the same moral weight,” and they specifically emphasize “the special claim on our consciences and actions” of “the moral obligation to oppose intrinsically evil acts.” Section 42 is particularly striking:

As Catholics, we are not single-issue voters. A candidate’s position on a single issue is not sufficient grounds for a voter’s support. Yet a candidate’s position on a single issue that involves an intrinsic evil such as support for legal abortion or racism may legitimately lead a voter to disqualify a candidate from receiving support.

Most of my readers will instantly recognize that, on this reckoning, Barack Obama is definitely a supporter of an intrinsic evil: the legalized killing of unborn children.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abrotion; catholic; mccain; obama
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To: mountainbunny

It isn’t right and McCain never said it was, at least I can’t find where he did, can you? McCain said that using cells from the already dead embryo he thought was OK. Like taking the eye from a dead person and giving it to someone else is OK.


21 posted on 07/06/2008 4:32:38 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: mountainbunny
Neither candidate is worthy of a Catholic’s vote this year.

Yet, Osamabama will get the vast majority.

BTW, I am with you on fetal stem cell research being wrong, but to proclaim it "not one iota" more heinous than partial-birth abortion is silly.

22 posted on 07/06/2008 4:32:43 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: silverleaf
I plan to vote. Just not for either of the candidates for whom killing fetuses for any reason is acceptable.
23 posted on 07/06/2008 4:33:08 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: mountainbunny

OK but these cells would be either kept frozen indefinately or discarded... that is what he thought he was voting for anyway.


24 posted on 07/06/2008 4:34:30 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: mountainbunny

OK, a guess:

Your voting for Ron Paul, right?


25 posted on 07/06/2008 4:35:31 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: j_tull

I see the wisdom of the Church at play here. They have consistently opposed Fetal Stem Cell Research and I see why.

We either respect life or we do not. If we do, we don’t accept that one life is worth more or less because it is useful to kill it.


26 posted on 07/06/2008 4:36:43 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: flyfree

::snort::

No.


27 posted on 07/06/2008 4:37:04 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: mountainbunny

LOL! I like the snort!


28 posted on 07/06/2008 4:37:49 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: browardchad
By whose authority, and by what definition of racism?

If the Democrat, or anyone who supports the Democrat, says the Republican candidate is racist, then he's racist.

29 posted on 07/06/2008 4:37:52 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: mountainbunny

To answer your question I refer you to the editorial in the3/2/08 editon of the Weekly Catholic Newspaper which endorses McCain over Obama on the pro-life issues. That same editorial goes on to say if Obama is elected we will get:2 more Supreme Court justices who consider abortion a right
federally funded abortion on demand
abortion in military hospitals
federally funded abortion overseas
vicious regulatory attacks on pro-life doctors,nurses and clinics
eforts to reclassify churches and pro-life activities threatening their tax-exempt status
“the Freedom of Choice Act” a federal law mandating abor
tion on demand in every state
the end of abstinence education
THE CHICE FOR MCCAIN IS VERY CLEAR


30 posted on 07/06/2008 4:39:08 PM PDT by ardara
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To: tcg

This Catholic has no quandry, NOBAMA


31 posted on 07/06/2008 4:40:07 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: mountainbunny
::snort:: No.

Well Bob Barr is just as nutty. And his three marriages certainly should make a Catholic blanch.

32 posted on 07/06/2008 4:40:56 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: flyfree
OK but these cells would be either kept frozen indefinately or discarded... that is what he thought he was voting for anyway.

So, they are "cells" when people want to killed them and experiment on them, and "fetuses" when individuals want to destroy them?

Wow. Just... wow.

33 posted on 07/06/2008 4:40:57 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Lion Den Dan

Nobrainer, Nobama.


34 posted on 07/06/2008 4:41:14 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: tcg
Most of my readers will instantly recognize that, on this reckoning, Barack Obama is definitely a supporter of an intrinsic evil: the legalized killing of unborn children.

And born children, too.

35 posted on 07/06/2008 4:41:22 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: mountainbunny
Actually, I think your talking about embryos, not fetuses. They talk about getting stem cells from embryos, and in the case of McCain he was talking about embryos that would have been frozen indefinitely or discarded anyway. This is the same discussion we had with G.W.Bush. Same policy as far as I can tell except Bush listed certain lines, and McCain hasn't.

However if you don't vote for McCain, then it is one more vote not countered for Obama. You might as well write Obama a check.

36 posted on 07/06/2008 4:44:56 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: mountainbunny
Your full of it . Other posters have already corrected you on McCain stance on stem cell research . Obama is the PRO ABORTION and PRO PARTIAL BIRTH candidate. The fact you trying to Peddle misinformation for OBama is the WEIRD PART. OBama supports denying Emergency care for babies that survive abortions.Obama want them to DIE UNTREATED in Abortion clinics and you peddle misinformation about McCain. Shame on YOU.
37 posted on 07/06/2008 4:45:20 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: buccaneer81

Bob Barr also drove his wife to an abortionist.


38 posted on 07/06/2008 4:55:57 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Freerepublic.com baby)
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To: All
This is from the most recent National Right To Life News.

Roe v. Wade.

McCain ...opposed

Obama...supports

Partial Birth Abortion Ban

McCain...supports

Obama...opposes.

Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

McCain...opposes

Obama...supports

Parental Notification,B>

McCain...supports

Obama...opposes

Protecting Abortion Survivors

McCain...supported

Obama...OPPOSED

Embryonic Stem Cell Research

McCain...supports

Obama...supports

Human Cloning.

McCain...opposes

Obama...supports.

39 posted on 07/06/2008 5:07:24 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Freerepublic.com baby)
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To: ardara

McClain voted for Ginsberg. I am also not voting for either of the two fronts for One World Gov’t forced upon us.


40 posted on 07/06/2008 5:14:41 PM PDT by Linden1209
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