Conservatives for Obama?

Real Clear Politics ^ | July 8, 2008 | Thomas Sowell

[Eurale]

A number of friends of mine have commented on an odd phenomenon that they have observed-- conservative Republicans they know who are saying that they are going to vote for Barack Obama. It seemed at first to be an isolated fluke, perhaps signifying only that my friends know some strange conservatives. But apparently columnist Robert Novak has encountered the same phenomenon and has coined the term "Obamacons" to describe the conservatives for Senator Obama. Now the San Francisco Chronicle has run a feature article, titled "Some Influential Conservatives Spurn GOP and Endorse Obama." In it they quote various conservatives on why they are ready to take a chance on Barack Obama, rather than on John McCain. What is going on?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Sounds like the Bradley Effect to me.

If you're not voting for the black guy, you're a racist, don't ya' know?

[Jo Nuvark]

Really? Name and town... please.

[popdonnelly]

Madness.

[EagleUSA]

TITLE: By definition, ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE.

[SJSAMPLE]

In only hear about Republicans voting for Obama from liberals who are already Obama supporters. It seems they all know Republicans who are switching, they just can’t introduce me to one.

I know a few disaffected Republicans who are angry at Bush and not so thrilled about McCain, but none of them has said any kind word about Obama.

[bilhosty]

you have to consider that they GOP is now ins a state of decline and that decline will probably continue with Mcain in office. His inability to get a message across or a platform will just be a continence of the same and result in the same. We will also have a recession which will hamper which ever party wins. his may be one of those elections you win by losing. On the other hand if Obama gets his act together and is successful that could be big problems to our getting out act together. And then again there are those three SCOTUS appointment that will be made. What to do? What to do?

[Jeff Head]

If they are true conservative, they ar not going to be for Obama. My guess is that this is the MSM, the DNC, and lefties trying to distract from and obscure their own hemoraging from the many, many former Hillary supporters who will not for Obama.

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[weegee]

But apparently columnist Robert Novak has encountered the same phenomenon and has coined the term "Obamacons" to describe the conservatives for Senator Obama.

Smells like some kind of animal scat to me.

Another article had another writer taking the credit for coining the term.

Maybe it was Mark Twain. Or George Carlin.

And Armstrong Williams is not voting for Obama. He's voting for McCain. He said that he thought Obama was running an "interesting" campaign but he does not agree with him on any issues.

This is mythmaking.

[clamper1797]

Any IDIOT who would vote for the Obamanation is neither conservative nor Republican

[lexusppd]

LOL, can the libs be more obvious in their lame attempts to have the Messiah annointed? Funny he doesn't mention the Ind and Democrats who want nothing to do with Hussein, or the fact that his negatives have jumped almost 50% To just under 50%, among Ind and men since he grabbed the nomination in early June.

[weegee]

Democrats have actively been campaigning and staffing McCain2008 going back to 2006. Never see an article about McCain-Democrats. Why is that?

[Transformers]

I’m amazed at how many stupid people there are in this country. It’s simple arithmetic.

McCain Wins = Serves probably only 4 years. Too old to run again. After 4 years again we can’t another chance for a conservative candidate to run for office.

Obama Wins = Likely serves 8 years. No matter what evil comes, the media will cover for Obama and blame it on Bush. After 8 grueling years, Obama’s successor may very well win because people will have bought into “Camelot”.

The Conclusion?

Vote for McCain - a no brainer!

[AngelesCrestHighway]

The straw in this case is Obama’s recent “refining” of his position on a number of issues, as he edges toward the center, in order to try to pick up more votes in November’s general election.

Even the dumbest conservative can see it’s only pandering...

[AngelesCrestHighway]

More important than who’s butt sits in the white house is who he appoints to replace the old, dried up liberals on the supreme court....

[PBRSTREETGANG]

[weegee]

If Obama wins and there is a recession “he inherited it from Boosh”.

If McCain wins and there is a recession “its the continued failed policies of Republicanism”.

If Obama wins and there is a major terrorist attack “it is the chickens coming home to roost because of the aggressive military policies of Boosh”.

If McCain wins and there is a major terrorist attack “electing McCain didn’t make us safer...”

yadda yadda yadda.

The Golden Child will not take the blame for anything bad that happens and neither will the Democrats. Look at what’s happened to the economy since the Democrats took Congress. Giving them the whole sheebang will not benefit America.

[AmericanMade1776]

What kind of Conservative votes for a tax and spend Democrat, Late Term abortion supporter, who has no military experience???

[dead]

Of course nobody knows any conservative voting for Obama. Some might not be voting or voting for a third party candidate, but not a single conservative is voting for this clueless Marxist surrender-monkey.

I do personally know three members of the same family, liberal as the day is long, Bush-hating socialistas, who are all voting for McCain, because they see Obama as a clueless lightwieght. (They don't say it, but I suspect his melanin content is enhancing their sudden ability to recognize a Democrat's shortcomings. Typical liberals.)

The fact that they find McCain palatable enough to vote for reminds me of why I'm going to have to get drunk to vote for him myself.

[Right Cal Gal]

Agreed. I have yet to see anyone I consider a true “leader” in the Conservative movement say he is voting for Nobamasiah. They interview the children of prominent Republicans, etc., but there is nothing that establishes their bona fides as “conservatives.”

They can call me when Charles Krauthammer writes a pro-bama column.

[ETL]

If any of you should run into one of these idiots yourself, please send them the following link. If they still can't figure it out after that, slap them in the head and ask them to read it again (joking!--sort of) Thank you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2042357/posts?page=4#4

[italianquaker]

I do not like Mccain to say the least but there is NO WAY I will ever vote for odumbo.

[JimSEA]

Any IDIOT who would vote for the Obamanation is neither conservative nor Republican

Illustrative of your point is a family living down the street from us. I don't know them well but they had a Bush 04 Sticker on their car and now they have an Obama 08 sticker. At the mail box, I asked the husband, "Why the big Change." He replied that he wanted all the American troops back on American soil ASAP. Not just Iraq but everywhere. I guess he finds both Ron Paul and Obama convincing. Sigh.

[Cecily]

We heard the same kind of thing from the lamestream media back when Bubba’s wife looked to be the front runner. David Brooks of the NY Times lead the pack, and he couldn’t gush enough about how any number of conservatives and/or Republicans had come to admire and respect the Hildebeast.

[SJSAMPLE]

It truly defies logic that Bush or McCain are not conservative enough, so somebody would switch to a vote for Obama.

Democrats and their MSM accomplices just want their own “Reagan Democrats”, but it’s not gonna happen.

[clamper1797]

Bringing all the troops now will ensure that ALL the troops will be back in the near future when WW4 starts (we already had WW3)

[Reagan Man]

Just because some Republicans have betrayed or even abandoned conservatism in favor of more moderate and liberal policies, is no reason for other conservatives to commit political suicide. Don't reward the Obama by punishing America.

Two can play that game.

Anyone calling themselves a conservative and saying they'll vote for Obama, ain't no conservative in my book.

[Anticommie]

you have to consider that they GOP is now ins a state of decline and that decline will probably continue with Mcain in office.

Yes, GOP is in a state of decline, unfortunately I would say GOP is in downward death spiral, considering GOP FAILED to deliver all what they promised in 1996.

Broken promises: No Immigration reform, no balanced budget, grew the government 60% more than previous Democrat administrations, sold our Country to China, sold our Country to Big Oil ( 70% of our energy money goes to Islamist nations).

Sorry GOP you are the traitors of this Great Country, and you are trying to blame Democraps for your sins? Thats frea*ken pathethic.

I was a Conservative all my life, but you "Conservative Republicans betrayed me long time ago, I voted for GW Bush, but I will not vote for a "Repubnlican" in the foreseeable future.

Don't try to give me a crap that I am Obama supporter. GOP is going to lose election, ALL THE WAY, cause they tried to beat Demoncraps on their own game.

What a bunch of corrupted idiots.

[Beagle8U]

“Now the San Francisco Chronicle has run a feature article, titled “Some Influential Conservatives Spurn GOP and Endorse Obama.”

What exactly would a Conservative in SanFranSissyCo be?

They limit their gay group sex to parties of 5 or less?

[PreciousLiberty]

Any “conservative” that votes for Obama immediately renounces any right to be called such. It’s time for people to act like adults and do the best they can for country and kin. We, very literally, can’t afford Obama.

[Anticommie]

Just because some Republicans have betrayed or even abandoned conservatism in favor of more moderate and liberal policies, is no reason for other conservatives to commit political suicide. Don't reward the Obama by punishing America.

"Some Republicans???"

Republicans signed their own death warrant, they committed political suicide, all who voted for them are suckers. Including me, but not anymore, if I want a Liberal Government promising me a care from cradle to grave I will vote Democrat (real thing, not sucking RINOS)

[ETL]

Anyone calling themselves a conservative and saying they'll vote for Obama, ain't no conservative in my book.

Hopefully, someday, in the not too distant future, science will come up with a cure for stupidity. It may be a long shot, but it looks like this is our only hope.

[ETL]

I asked the husband, "Why the big Change." He replied that he wanted all the American troops back on American soil ASAP. Not just Iraq but everywhere.

If any of you should run into one of these idiots yourself, please send them the following link. If they still can't figure it out after that, slap them in the head and ask them to read it again (joking!--sort of) Thank you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2042357/posts?page=4#4

[Reagan Man]

Okay, one more for irrational politics. LOL

[Truth is a Weapon]

If a conservative backs a commie, don’t they automatically get re-defined as a non-conservative.

That would be like a Christian announcing that all of the sudden they love them some Satan. It just doesn’t work.

Part of the definition of conservatism is opposition to communism. Conservatives are not a group of people but a definition.

[al_c]

If Obama wins and there is a recession “he inherited it from Boosh”.

If McCain wins and there is a recession “its the continued failed policies of Republicanism”.

If Obama wins and there is a major terrorist attack “it is the chickens coming home to roost because of the aggressive military policies of Boosh”.

If McCain wins and there is a major terrorist attack “electing McCain didn’t make us safer...”

yadda yadda yadda.

And these are the same folks that got their feathers all ruffled when Clinton got the blame for a lot of what Bush faced.

[bilhosty]

You are so r4ight the GOP is now completely unresponsive. unreponsiv eto its conservative base and unresponsive to centrists and indpendents whowant the countries business taken care of. They are just plain unresponsive.

[weegee]

What? A military that is overextended?

[jazusamo]

“Funny he doesn’t mention the Ind and Democrats who want nothing to do with Hussein,”

I believe Dr. Sowell didn’t mention that because it wasn’t the subject of his column. He has written several columns re BO and will undoubtedly write more, he is no fan of Obama’s. Here are some that Sowell has written on him.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2028682/posts Cocky Ignorance
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2026248/posts Obama And McCain http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2025156/posts Irrelevant Apologies http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2011720/posts Success is Built on Work Ethic http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2008467/posts An Old Newness http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2001661/posts A Living Lie http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1987960/posts Obama’s Speech

[Anticommie]

Okay, one more for irrational politics. LOL

Reagan Man ??? what a joke, Great Ronald Reagan woud have nothing to do with contemporary "Republican" traitors.

ROFTLAMAO

[Reagan Man]

Since you think its so bad here in the good old USA, I suggest you move. You’ll quickly find out how good you had it right here.

Btw, if Reagan were alive today, he’d be working to make the GOP a winner again. And Reagan would be supporting McCain. No doubt about it, bucko.

[Free Descendant]

Give me ONE conservative position that Obama supports? One?

[Free Descendant]

And keep it pithy. :P

[Anticommie]

A number of friends of mine have commented on an odd phenomenon that they have observed conservative Republicans they know who are saying that they are going to vote for Barack Obama. It seemed at first to be an isolated fluke, perhaps signifying only that my friends know some strange conservatives.

But apparently columnist Robert Novak has encountered the same phenomenon and has coined the term "Obamacons" to describe the conservatives for Senator Obama. Now the San Francisco Chronicle has run a feature article, titled "Some Influential Conservatives Spurn GOP and Endorse Obama." In it they quote various conservatives on why they are ready to take a chance on Barack Obama, rather than on John McCain. What is going on?

Conservatives are really pisses off with "Republicans" (what a joke). I am not ready to vote for Obama yet, but I may, at least I am not going to succumb to "Grat Republican Hypocrisy". Republicans are fully responsible for a current miserable state of a our beloved republic, since they got in in 1996 (Clinton remorse)then they tried to outdo Democrats on reckless spending, government expansion, sucking to Latino lobby (Immigration do nothing mantra).

now Mc Lame openly embraces "Climate Change" aka Global warming AlGore scam.

If I ever believed in "Global Warming" I would fr*cken vote for ALGORE, instead I voted for GW with a few hundred Fla families.

Now McLame blows the horn of "Climate Change" AKA Global Warming. Instead of trying to do make America energy independent he promotes oil addiction (failed many times idea) saying by drilling off shore we'll be independent by 2035???? What a friggen joke and total lunacy. If you believe you are a conservative, and you still want to vote Republican ticket you are a loonie and you need to see a shrink.

[Anticommie]

Since you think its so bad here in the good old USA, I suggest you move. You’ll quickly find out how good you had it right here. Btw, if Reagan were alive today, he’d be working to make the GOP a winner again.

And Reagan would be supporting McCain.

No doubt about it, bucko.

And I suggest you move to fantasyland, where Rinos peacefully reing with chicoms, traitors and lunatics, no need to drag Reagans name through the mud Republicans embraced in the last 18 years.

Great Ronald Reagan who peacefully defeated Soviet Union turned around our country from a misery. Got hostages out of Iran, Idiot GW Bush started war with Iraq while Iran has been and still is our # 1 enemy. Get the clue?

Compare it to Bush-Clinton_GW Bush 18 years downward spiral pal. Ronald Reagan would laugh at anybody including you who belives MCLame is going be a Saviour of our Republic.You can offend or insult me, but just leave Mr Reagan out of it, you have no clue about greatness of this man, nor to compare Him to any contemporary idiots calling themselfs "Republicans" or "Conservatives" who are directly responsible for a current condition of our Country dude.

ROFTLAMAO

[businessprofessor]

Republicans are fully responsible for a current miserable state of a our beloved republic, since they got in in 1996 (Clinton remorse)then they tried to outdo Democrats on reckless spending, government expansion, sucking to Latino lobby (Immigration do nothing mantra).

Part of the reason for the loss of support among independents for GOP candidates is this kind of rant. While it is true that Republicans have been disappointing on some issues, the rats are the enemy not the Republicans. The RINOs have been the willing accomplices of the rats on some important issues. The majority of Republicans are conservatives. Unfortunately, the Senate never had a working majority of conservative Republicans.

The message to independent voters is that the rats are the enemy:

• The rats want high energy prices. Rat energy policies are a major factor in high energy prices. Proposed rat policies on energy mandates, windfall profits taxes, and global warming will lead to an energy meltdown. The new energy economy is a fraud.
• The rats want forced unionization through the proposed card check legislation.
• The rats want draconian tax increases on both earned and investment income. These tax increases are a grave threat to economic growth and freedom.
• The rats want more litigation and power to the trial lawyers. The rats oppose all litigation reform.
• The rats loathe the US military. The rats will slash defense spending and disarm us unilaterally. The rats want to grant rights to terrorists captured in foreign countries.
• The rats want open borders and massive racial preferences for the new immigrants.
• The rats favor a massive expansion of government spending and power.

[Anticommie]

You are so r4ight the GOP is now completely unresponsive. unreponsiv eto its conservative base and unresponsive to centrists and indpendents whowant the countries business taken care of. They are just plain unresponsive.

That's why they lost House, Senate, and they will lose Presidency in 2008 and power for the next 30 years. Remember, the BABYBOOMERS are in and THEY WANT GOVERMENT BENEFIS.

We worked for it, we desereve it, who is going to deliver Republicans? They sold our country to China, Mexico, Big Oil, they outsoursed your job, your sons job and your grandchildren future to China, India and Middle East.

Got it?

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>And I suggest you move to fantasyland...

And join you and the other mad men in the asylum, no thanks.

While I may not support McCain, the truth is, if Reagan was still with us today he would be supporting McCain over Obama and he would be telling all Republicans to join him. To say he wouldn't be backing McCain shows how ignorant you are of who the real Reagan was.

Most of us conservatives are unhappy with the leftward trend the GOP has taken under Bush43. Reagan wouldn't be happy either. However, Reagan believed in the GOP. Especially since its only one of two viable choices available, IF you want to win. Reagan didn't support third party alternatives, nor did he support not voting.

Reagan didn't get his way all the time, but he also didn't allow his anger to get the best of him. Like you have on this public forum.

>>>>>... you have no clue about greatness of this man...

And you don't know how stupid you sound.

[Anticommie]

>>>>>And I suggest you move to fantasyland... And join you and the other mad men in the asylum, no thanks. While I may not support McCain, the truth is, if Reagan was still with us today he would be supporting McCain over Obama and he would be telling all Republicans to join him. To say he wouldn't be backing McCain shows how ignorant you are of who the real Reagan was. Most of us conservatives are unhappy with the leftward trend the GOP has taken under Bush43. Reagan wouldn't be happy either. However, Reagan believed in the GOP. Especially since its only one of two viable choices available, IF you want to win. Reagan didn't support third party alternatives, nor did he support not voting. Reagan didn't get his way all the time, but he also didn't allow his anger to get the best of him. Like you have on this public forum. >>>>>... you have no clue about greatness of this man...

Blah,blah blah, excuses, excuses, excuses.

GOP is dead and they deserve it.

Leave Donald Reagan alone, let him rest in peace dude.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>Leave Donald Reagan alone, let him rest in peace dude.

First off, Reagan was a fighter and he didn't surrender to liberalism or the Democratic Party either. Reagan showed the GOP how to win elections and how to advance the conservative agenda.

Fact is, you've already surrendered. You think Obama is gonna be the next POTUS. Most conservatives aren't gonna go down without a fight.

And its Ronald Reagan, dude.