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Obama contest rules changed to avoid lottery issues ( Change )
Rocky Mountain News ^ | July 8, 2008 | Sara Burnett

Posted on 07/08/2008 7:59:24 PM PDT by george76

Barack Obama's campaign changed the rules of a highly publicized fundraiser Tuesday, after gambling regulators said the contest — a chance at one of 10 trips to the Democratic National Convention — was an illegal lottery.

"We are happy to have resolved this issue working closely with state officials," said Nick Kimball, spokesman for the Obama campaign ...

A spokesman for the Colorado Secretary of State said Democrats would have to get a license if they were conducting "a standard raffle where they're buying tickets" in order to win.

But under the new rules, supporters don't have to donate money to win one of the trips...

The campaign announced the contest Monday, minutes after officials confirmed Obama would give his speech at Invesco rather than the Pepsi Center, a switch that sources said could add $3 million to the cost of staging the Democratic National Convention.

(Excerpt) Read more at rockymountainnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; barackobama; busted; change; cultureofcorruption; democrats; democratscandals; democratscheat; dnc; electionpresident; elections; flipflop; grifter; howtostealanelection; illegal; illegallottery; obama; obamatruthfile
Culture of Corruption

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1 posted on 07/08/2008 7:59:25 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Somehow, Obama and The Lottery do seem made for one another.


2 posted on 07/08/2008 8:01:49 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: george76

I detest Obama too, but this is silliness. It’s a raffle, for goodness sake! What if it was bingo? This is too much incursion by government. In a way, it’s good that it’s biting the Dems, since they’re always the ones to come up with such nonsense.


3 posted on 07/08/2008 8:05:40 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: george76
But under the new rules, supporters don't have to donate money to win one of the trips...

Anyone want to enter? Could be a hoot to show up with a t-shirt or sign of your choice.

4 posted on 07/08/2008 8:13:37 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: george76

As long as no money is involved, I’ll enter. And if I win, my guest ticket will go to Ann Coulter.


5 posted on 07/08/2008 8:18:25 PM PDT by vamoose
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To: george76

Guess he has no lawyers on the payroll to have thought that this might be an illegal lottery. Bet his AG will be really smart.


6 posted on 07/08/2008 8:21:28 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: 11Bush
I got the email solicitation (I have a drop email account that I use solely for the purpose of messing with dhimmis):

Dear XXXXXX --

Join Barack at the Open ConventionI wanted you to be the first to hear the news.

At the Democratic National Convention next month, we're going to kick off the general election with an event that opens up the political process the same way we've opened it up throughout this campaign.

Barack has made it clear that this is your convention, not his.

On Thursday, August 28th, he's scheduled to formally accept the Democratic nomination in a speech at the convention hall in front of the assembled delegates.

Instead, the convention will move to an outdoor stadium where Barack will join more than 75,000 people for a huge, free, open-air event and deliver his acceptance speech to the American people.

It's going to be an amazing event, and Barack would like you to join him. Free tickets will become available as the date approaches, but we've reserved a special place for a few of the people who brought us this far and who continue to drive this campaign.

If you make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to fly to Denver and spend two days and nights at the convention, meet Barack backstage, and watch his acceptance speech in person. Each of the ten supporters who are selected will be able to bring one guest to join them.

Make a donation now and you could have a front row seat to history:

https://donate.barackobama.com/DNCconvention

We'll follow up with more details on this and other convention activities as we get closer, but please take a moment and pass this note to someone you know who might like to be there.

It will be an event you'll never forget.

Thank you,

David

David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America


The moment I saw it I knew they were gonna get spanked ;'}
7 posted on 07/08/2008 8:24:48 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: keepitreal

Seems basic knowledge.

Even many non lawyers understand this concept.


8 posted on 07/08/2008 8:31:34 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

But obviously the Haaavaad-trained constitutional law “professor” and his brilliant team couldn’t put two and two together.


9 posted on 07/08/2008 8:35:46 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: weegee

more


10 posted on 07/08/2008 9:26:41 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: george76
BUSTED!

Of course, some speculation was that while many people would donate $5 and "enter", it wasn't going to be a pure lottery and the winners would be selected by committee.

11 posted on 07/08/2008 9:57:20 PM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: keepitreal

He’s just trying to add to the messiah aura. Not sure I think it’s safe to be there.


12 posted on 07/08/2008 10:04:41 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: oneamericanvoice
I detest Obama too, but this is silliness. It’s a raffle, for goodness sake! What if it was bingo? This is too much incursion by government.

Ah - so it's alright for people to pick and choose which laws they will/won't follow?

A week or so ago, he had to quickly ditch his Presidential Seal - that was illegal too.

We know he's ignorant but it's looks like he surrounds himself with ignorant advisers too.

13 posted on 07/08/2008 10:15:23 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: weegee; SunkenCiv; jazusamo

yup

the winners would be selected


14 posted on 07/08/2008 10:26:03 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

You can bet (oops) that anyone who doesn’t donate is not going to win a trip. :-)


15 posted on 07/08/2008 10:36:40 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
...after gambling regulators said the contest -- a chance at one of 10 trips to the Democratic National Convention -- was an illegal lottery.
The so-called Democratic party offered a similar deal to the Michigan and Florida delegations, didn't it? ;') Thanks geo.
16 posted on 07/08/2008 11:02:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: george76

What’s most significant is that Obambi and his advisers are too dim-witted to have realized that such issues are involved..... so much for the competence of the Obambi team!!!


17 posted on 07/09/2008 12:06:28 AM PDT by Enchante (OBAMA: "That's not the Wesley Clark I knew!")
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To: george76

In which case it was fraud since that selection process was not (and is not) being disclosed to the public at the point of entry.

Shouldn’t they have to disclose the “rules” of the sweepstakes (no purchase necessary) someplace?

Even this “drawing” violates longstanding law.


18 posted on 07/09/2008 7:44:59 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: Enchante

Do As Thou Will (except where the Nannystate does not allow it) shall be the law of the land - Occultist Aleister Crowley paraphrased for the DNC


19 posted on 07/09/2008 7:46:53 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: weegee

This further shows that Democrats like BO have no respect for the law nor fair play.

Rules are only for us little people.


20 posted on 07/09/2008 7:54:53 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Army Air Corps; oneamericanvoice; vamoose; keepitreal; rockrr; Libertarianize the GOP; ...
Have they bothered to post the RULES of the sweepstakes online or if they are even promoting this new contest to general visitors to the site?

The latest blog post on Obama's campaign site still includes the line about donations in exchange for entry to the drawing.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGxl4h

If you make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to fly to Denver and spend two days and nights at the convention, meet Barack backstage, and watch his acceptance speech in person. Each of the ten supporters who are selected will be able to bring one guest to join them.

Make a donation now and you could have a front row seat to history.

The appeal for money for entry is still being made on the site. They are STILL soliciting for an illegal lottery.

21 posted on 07/09/2008 8:00:17 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: weegee; Jeff Head; Grampa Dave; jan in Colorado; LucyT; MileHi; whipitgood; MtnClimber; ...

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They are STILL soliciting for an illegal lottery.


22 posted on 07/09/2008 8:06:10 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Obama is not only a militant anti-American and abject marxist (which his willful associations of long standing and his own positions attest to), he is also a wholly corrupt.

But we knew that already.

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23 posted on 07/09/2008 8:25:13 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: george76

until they:
(a) take down the illegal solicitation
and
(b) post the rules of this new contest
they are in violation.


24 posted on 07/09/2008 8:29:06 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: george76

Word of the day

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/grifter

GRIFTER

grift·er –noun Slang.
1. a person who operates a side show at a circus, fair, etc., esp. a gambling attraction.
2. a swindler, dishonest gambler, or the like.

[Origin: 1910–15; grift + -er1]
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

grift
n. Money made dishonestly, as in a swindle. A swindle or confidence game.
v. grift·ed, grift·ing, grifts
v. intr. To engage in swindling or cheating.
v. tr. To obtain by swindling or cheating.

grift’er n.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


He sure is running a confidence game. And when you try to pin him down on the issues, he plays three card monte and changes his positions.


25 posted on 07/09/2008 8:32:43 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: weegee; Milhous

The enemedia will not report this.

If we did this, it would be front page ‘news.’


26 posted on 07/09/2008 8:35:09 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Actually there are a number of articles on the wires today, I just didn’t find a lot of them on FR. Accepting that AP threads are being boycotted, there should still be more visibility.

Rush did mention today that Obama’s staff got caught trying to run an illegal lottery. But he also mentioned possibly sending in a $10 contribution to get some Operation Chaos operatives in the running for face time with Obama.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=obama+lottery
205 articles match obama lottery


27 posted on 07/09/2008 9:55:07 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: weegee

illegal lottery = Change


28 posted on 07/09/2008 11:00:25 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Army Air Corps
>>>> Somehow, Obama and The Lottery do seem made for one another.

Nah, With the lottery you do have some tiny, miniscule chance of winning and having a beneficial outcome.

29 posted on 07/09/2008 11:14:21 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: weegee

There are bigger fish to fry. This is like the House discussing monkey bites last week. ??? Go figure. It’s like having a thug in the neighborhood but worrying about potholes.


30 posted on 07/09/2008 11:43:44 AM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: maine-iac7

Childishness is unbecoming on you. Of course, it isn’t alright to pick and choose. Obviously, you need to reread my post. But I’ll help you out. I HATE THIS GUY. It is just that I find rules for this kind of stuff is silly. It would be the same if this story were about a Catholic bingo night, or Republican event. You’re right about the Presidential Seal. Funny how that dropped quickly. That was bigger than someone not knowing they needed a license to run a raffle. Fair is fair.


31 posted on 07/09/2008 11:48:54 AM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: MindBender26

I was thinking more along the lines of the short story by the same name.


32 posted on 07/09/2008 11:58:37 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: weegee

I am visions of Charley and the Chocolate Factory.


33 posted on 07/09/2008 2:15:49 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: george76
The rules have NOT been changed online.

They are STILL as of today making the SAME illegal solicitation.

States need to crack down and file charges. They were notified by several state officials of the offense and have DONE NOTHING to change it.

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/openconvention1?source=feature_open_convention

Support the Open Convention
At the Democratic National Convention next month, Barack will deliver his acceptance speech in front of 75,000 people at a free, open event in Denver, Colorado.

Make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, and you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to meet Barack backstage and watch his acceptance speech in person.

Each of the 10 selected supporters can bring a guest, and will be flown to Denver to spend two days at the convention, culminating in Barack’s speech on Thursday, August 28th.

Make a donation now and you could have a front row seat to history:


also illegal appeal here:

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php


34 posted on 07/10/2008 10:05:02 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there!)
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To: weegee

Amazing :

The rules have NOT been changed online.

They are STILL as of today making the SAME illegal solicitation.


The media would be all over this if it was us.


35 posted on 07/10/2008 11:18:01 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
The Obama campaign is STILL making an illegal solicitation for an illegal lottery: http://www.barackobama.com/index.php


36 posted on 07/14/2008 11:52:52 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: george76

And the Obama scampaign is doing as I suspected and seeking small donations ($5?) under a bogus lottery to make it appear that there is grassroots support for the Soros puppet.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gGxTSV

I recorded a short video in my office about what we are up against and why now is the time to step up and make your first donation.

Watch the video and make a donation of now.

As much money as they already have, this is just the beginning.

On top of their current $95 million in cash on hand, the campaign has said they expect to raise another $95 million by the end of the summer.

Based on their record so far, they’re good for it.

They know that the big money interests will continue pouring millions into McCain’s campaign, the RNC, and shadowy outside money groups — whatever it takes to stop our movement so they can hold on to their influence in Washington.

It’s going to take unprecedented resources and organization to compete against this broken, entrenched system.

Together, we’ve created the largest grassroots movement in history, and your efforts have put us in a position to build a campaign for change in all 50 states. Now, we need your help to keep us in a strong position at this crucial moment.

Watch the video and make a donation to help this movement take on John McCain and the RNC.

Together, we have already accomplished so much in this campaign. But we cannot take it for granted.

This grassroots movement won’t just happen on its own. It’s up to you to make it happen.

John McCain and the RNC are committed to stopping us — and they are prepared to raise and spend as much as they can from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs.

We must let them know that this time, the election won’t be bought by big money interests. And that a campaign of grassroots donors can overcome the entrenched Washington powers to bring about the change we need...


37 posted on 07/14/2008 11:57:46 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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