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Will Obama Debate John McCain Without Preconditions?
The New Media Journal ^ | 7/7/2008 | Brian Cherry

Posted on 07/09/2008 6:18:13 AM PDT by Johnny_Bravo1

Will Obama Debate John McCain Without Preconditions? July 7, 2008

The world of Presidential candidate Barack Obama must be a strange and fascinating place. You get to be the "post-racial" guy while dealing the race card from the bottom of the deck like an old time poker cheat. Along with this political slight of hand, your solution to solving the fuel crisis involves punishing the people who actually produce the gas while raising taxes on the people who buy gas.

When it comes to gas, Mr. Obama is having a sort of political dyslexia. On the campaign trail he said that "Gas prices are killing folks. I got an email from a friend of mine; it says, just in case you're not living in the real world, being driven around by Secret Service, it just cost me $85 to fill up my tank." Of course in true fashion of people who can magically talk out of two orifices at once, he told CNBC on June 10th, 2008 regarding gas prices that "I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment." (For those who can't read DNC code, "adjustment" refers to the raise in gas prices). He then went on to talk about how he was not on board with lowering the prices or increasing the supply; just for helping us, and the market, adjust to the higher prices. This topic was preceded by a rambling diatribe about how American's consume too much energy, and there was no policy in place to control our personal consumption.

This is the sort of logic that comes from someone who reaches for your necktie when he claims he is trying to help you tighten your belt…for your own good, of course. It should worry people that Barack turns into a flatulist whenever policies that directly affect the household budget of the American people are talked about, but should we be concerned that he seems to have trouble discerning between a sworn enemyof the United States and an American war hero as well?

During a CNN debate in July of 2007, Obama was asked, if elected, would he would be willing to meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea "without precondition".

"I would," Obama said in a very matter of fact manner.

John McCain, say what you will about his conservative credentials, spent five years of his life being tortured in a Vietnamese prison camp and NOT giving up information to our enemies. Thanks to his treatment by the North Vietnamese, John McCain will never be able to do the wave at a sporting event or give a high five. I think this qualifies him as a loyal patriot to the United States.

By way of contrast, Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was probably involved in taking our embassy staff hostage in the seventies, has declared that Israel should be wiped off the map, chants "Death to America" as often as humanly possible, and probably kicks puppies when nobody is looking. So why is Barack Obama willing to meet with Mahmoud without any preconditions, but won't debate John McCain unless the Arizona Senator agress to an entire menu of concessions?

We tried to get an explanation from the Obama campaign regarding this contradiction, but they seemed very unwilling to comment, and more then a little crabby that we even brought it up.

We talked to the McCain folks as well. While the campaign worker we spoke with would not divulge any information regarding the ongoing negotiations about the preconditions that must exist before Barack will sit down to debate the issues with John McCain, they are at least willing to put us on their calendar. They found it curious as well that Mr. Obamas is willing to talk to brutal dictators, thugs, and murderers without any preconditions but demands a laundry list of concessions from an American patriot before he is willing to be in the same room, talking about the direction of the country.

Rick Davis of the McCain campaign had the following to say about their troubles getting a commitment from Obama regarding debates: “We fear that our negotiations over joint town hall meetings are turning into a debate about process.”

One concession we do know that the Obama campaign has asked for involved the timing of the first debate. Barack would agree to a live, town hall debate only over the July 4th weekend; a time when most people are about as far removed from their televisions as Obama is from the idea of America producing its own oil. He seems to be taking the tree falling in a forest approach to the debates. After his disastrous performance against Hillary in Philadelphia last April; the one that forced him to declare that he would agree to no more debates, can you blame him for not wanting to pry himself from his teleprompter? All his gaffes have come when the words are his own, and the not the product of a speech writer.

We can only assume other concessions that he has demanded involve Obama friendly moderators, hand picked audience members, cherry picked questions, and the complete exclusion of Fox News.

We will see if the McCain campaign does actually find time for us and print an update when we are given their direct quotes.

We don't expect any cooperation from the Obama campaign, but after Barack stating in such a matter of fact manner that he would meet with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Castro with no conditions, what can they really say about refusing to discuss the direction of the United States with John McCain until the republican candidate agrees to a litany of preconditions. It makes you wonder who Barack Obama really sees as an enemy of America.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debate; debates; electionpresident; flipflop; howtostealanelection; iran; lyingliar; mccain; obama; obamabreakspromises; obamaflipflops; preconditions; riggeddebates; unamerican
This nailed Obama
1 posted on 07/09/2008 6:18:15 AM PDT by Johnny_Bravo1
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To: Johnny_Bravo1

Get this dumbass in a forum without canned questions and without a teleprompter and show him for what he really is - an empty suit.


2 posted on 07/09/2008 6:19:27 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Johnny_Bravo1
I'm saying...

...no.

3 posted on 07/09/2008 6:21:04 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

Not only no, but he will find a way to blame McCain for it.


4 posted on 07/09/2008 6:22:58 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Johnny_Bravo1

Obama is a control freak. He’ll simply say that McCain wouldn’t cooperate on the “contract” points of any debate.


5 posted on 07/09/2008 6:23:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Ingtar

Or me.


6 posted on 07/09/2008 6:26:00 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Johnny_Bravo1


"Where's your halo now, pretty boy?"
7 posted on 07/09/2008 6:26:58 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Johnny_Bravo1
...your solution to solving the fuel crisis involves punishing the people who actually produce the gas while raising taxes on the people who buy gas.... Will we EVER in our lifetimes...have an Presidential leader with vision, intelligence and that Reaganesque quality that makes us feel good about ourselves....tax those that produce the gas, and tax those that use it. This guy is no different than anyone else...I fear however that globally he will looked at as the second coming.
8 posted on 07/09/2008 6:34:00 AM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be at least a "Jackie Robinson.")
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To: Johnny_Bravo1

Welcome to FR.


9 posted on 07/09/2008 6:34:04 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: Thrownatbirth

No, Barry is totally lost without a teleprompter. He cannot debate and he is afraid of questions.

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10 posted on 07/09/2008 6:34:20 AM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: Johnny_Bravo1
“Barack Obama willing to meet with Mahmoud without any preconditions, but won't debate John McCain unless the Arizona Senator agrees to an entire menu of concessions?”

Unfortunately Obama will refuse to debate on Fox News and the precondition will be automatically set by the left wing media.

Tim Russert was a slightly good moderator for Republicans but we all know now that he is deceased nobody could accurately replace his occasional fairness.

11 posted on 07/09/2008 6:36:01 AM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: Johnny_Bravo1

Will someone PLEASE explain to me why McCain is not running ads 24 X 7 playing Obama’s “I’ll debate John McCain anywhere, anytime, anyplace on foreign policy” quote.


12 posted on 07/09/2008 6:40:42 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: Johnny_Bravo1

All this crap upsets me so much. How are so many people buying the dream that Obama is selling? Do they not realize what his election could do to this country?


13 posted on 07/09/2008 6:42:49 AM PDT by Feline_AIDS (Because canine AIDS ain't funny.)
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To: JaneNC

When will Baraka circumcize his daughters according to the Islamic law of his terrorist father?


14 posted on 07/09/2008 6:47:04 AM PDT by walkertoad
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To: Feline_AIDS
I don't know who the hell is running the McPAIN campaign BUT they SUCK..ROYALLY!! I have totally have tuned out, black out or whatever you want to call it, from this FREAKIN fiasco of a campaign from both IDIOTS who either way will damage this country! I am so fed up and like that lady who told mcPAIN....to the government...GET OFF MY FREAKIN BACK I'M TIRED OF TAXES ETC...GET OFF MY BACK...UGHHHHHHHHHH!! (Ok, vent off)
15 posted on 07/09/2008 6:54:56 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Johnny_Bravo1

“We talked to the McCain folks as well. While the campaign worker we spoke with would not divulge any information regarding the ongoing negotiations about the preconditions that must exist before Barack will sit down to debate the issues with John McCain”

Already raised the issue here, and I believe I was the first to do so:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/2034680/posts?page=21#21

Looks like if the McCain camp insists on “traditional” debates, that Obama will refuse to engage him in such. The excuse will be that McCain would not agree to “mutual preconditions”, but the reality will be that Obama is afraid of open debate without a crutch to lean on.

Why should he bother, if he’s ahead?
Would Lenin have engaged in “debates” with his opponents prior to assuming power?

Another thought - will the inclusion of a teleprompter or ear monitor become one of the “preconditions”?
You read this here, first.

- John


16 posted on 07/09/2008 7:08:50 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman

I’ve forgotten - during that endless stream of primary Democratic debates, how many did the pundits say were actually WON by Obama?

No, this Marxist is totally terrified of being without his teleprompter, or having the questions in advance. McCain suggested ten “town hall” type debates, with spontaneous questions from the audience. Nobama would only agree to ONE, and that one was to be held the evening of July 4th (because you know, all Americans would be home and glued to their sets).

McCain and the RNC have to pounce NOW!


17 posted on 07/09/2008 7:16:09 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Johnny_Bravo1

Without a script, Obama is just another ham actor.


18 posted on 07/09/2008 7:18:18 AM PDT by constant
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To: MrB
...dealing the race card from the bottom of the deck like an old time poker cheat.

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19 posted on 07/09/2008 7:27:39 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Thank you so much for the welcome!


20 posted on 07/09/2008 7:34:27 AM PDT by Johnny_Bravo1
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To: MrB

Hillary would’ve done fine in debate. They would’ve handed her the questions beforehand like they did on the gameshow Twenty-One.


21 posted on 07/09/2008 7:36:24 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: Johnny_Bravo1

bump


22 posted on 07/09/2008 7:38:48 AM PDT by hoe_cake (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less!)
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To: Bob Buchholz
Will someone PLEASE explain to me why McCain is not running ads 24 X 7 playing Obama’s “I’ll debate John McCain anywhere, anytime, anyplace on foreign policy” quote.

If the GOP won't run it, then at least Ingraham, Medved, Hannity, Rush, Hewitt, Bennett, Gallagher, Prager, Reagan, Miller, et al should be running the quote coming back from every commercial break.

It can't be more than a 10 second clip. Hold his feet to the fire until the debates are scheduled.

23 posted on 07/09/2008 7:41:26 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: weegee; RoseofTexas

Great comments...send your ideas to the McCain camp:

http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/


24 posted on 07/09/2008 7:47:17 AM PDT by hoe_cake (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less!)
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To: what_not2007

I send my ideas to talk radio. McCain2008 had Howard Dean staffers on board going back to 2006. I don’t trust them to actually push their candidate anymore than just securing the GOP nomination.


25 posted on 07/09/2008 8:34:33 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe 143 days wasn’t enough experience.)
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To: Feline_AIDS
How are so many people buying the dream that Obama is selling?

Beats me, but I know that too many conservatives at this forum will support BO by default when they do not vote for McCain.

26 posted on 07/09/2008 9:39:37 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Someday the McCain Deranged will love their country more than they hate John McCain.)
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To: MrB

Like fish in a barrel...


27 posted on 07/09/2008 9:47:38 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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