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NOPD officer punished for wearing the wrong uniform
The Times-Picayune (NOLA) ^ | July 09, | Brendan McCarthy

Posted on 07/09/2008 1:00:54 PM PDT by PurpleMan

With [15] minutes left in the last shift of his 35-year New Orleans police career, Sgt. Bobby Guidry received a call from a supervisor telling him he had been suspended for wearing the wrong uniform shirt, the veteran officer said. Instead of the standard-issue all-black uniform, Guidry, a veteran officer in the city's Uptown 2nd District, chose the powder-blue uniform shirt that he wore to work for more than three decades.

He viewed it as a simple statement, not an affront to rules or department leadership.

"Eighteen people died in the line of duty in that powder-blue shirt while I was with the department," Guidry said. "I went to each of those funerals. I wore that shirt on a Saturday, on my last day, out of respect for them."

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Reverse Racism in the "Chocolate City"

If the knuckleheads in charge could just get out of their own way. I weep over such stupidity in a city I love.

1 posted on 07/09/2008 1:00:54 PM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

They are supposed to wear a “uniform”, not a “different”.


2 posted on 07/09/2008 1:05:10 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: PurpleMan

This is beyond stupid. How much will the appeals and the likely lawsuit cost along with the public ridicule?


3 posted on 07/09/2008 1:05:25 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: PurpleMan

Just wear the correct uniform Dumazz. I’m sick of people’s “statements”.


4 posted on 07/09/2008 1:06:55 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Mark was here
I was the uniform for over 30 years.... This is typical overreaction by a career bureaucrat.... and to make it worse Riley is going back to the powder blue uniforms in January so this whole thing was an exercise in stupidity on the departments part.
5 posted on 07/09/2008 1:09:05 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Don't Think a cop will help? Try calling a crack head next time......!! Thanks Thorin!)
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To: PurpleMan
The anal-retentive supervisor should be canned. Anybody who would castigate a 35-year veteran on his last day for anything is without question a world-class jerk.
6 posted on 07/09/2008 1:11:26 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: PurpleMan

Totally stupid overreaction. The guy should have worn the regular new uniform, but this was a sort of sentimental touch on the day of his retirement, and I think it could have been overlooked.

What’s with the all-black uniform? Do they look like waiters or like storm troopers?


7 posted on 07/09/2008 1:11:32 PM PDT by livius
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To: PurpleMan

Its New Orleans.
Nothing else to say...........


8 posted on 07/09/2008 1:12:07 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: Truth29
This is beyond stupid.

According to my maps, New Orleans has always been located about 25 miles beyond stupid and it seems to be drifting even further away.

9 posted on 07/09/2008 1:15:00 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Americanwolf
Come on. We are talking about a big boy here who is supposed to go out and make sure everyone else is playing by the rules, and he can not even wear the outfit he is being paid to wear?
10 posted on 07/09/2008 1:15:04 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: PurpleMan
The retiring cop... Sgt. Bobby Guidry

Superintendent Warren Riley, (idiot with the M-4 on the left) who could not be reached for comment, was apprised of the investigation, Young said.

Riley, in what some in the Police Department call a move to boost morale, recently announced that the department would revert to powder-blue shirts, probably by the first of the year.

Ya know, it really does seem that the more of an azzwipe a person is, the higher they will be promoted in a gubbermit organization.

11 posted on 07/09/2008 1:16:58 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: PurpleMan
Chief Riley is an petty ignoramus. He's the same POS who, in early 2007 (iirc), trumpeted that murder was down in the city. It was, but only in absolute numbers because of hundreds of thousands of people elsewhere due to Katrina. In percentage terms, we were one of the most murderous cities.

Guidry got worse than the black cop who brushed another cop with his car, led them on a 90 m.p.h. chase, and then slapped a cop.

12 posted on 07/09/2008 1:18:04 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: livius

Because an all-black uniform in the middle of a Louisiana swamp in the summertime makes just sooooo much sense...

15 minutes to go and they suspend a 35-year-vet on his last day for a simple uniform violation. Way to back up your rank-and-file, NOPD. They’ll sure stick their necks out and go the extra mile for management that’ll shank ‘em in the back like that. Yep.

}:-)4


13 posted on 07/09/2008 1:18:26 PM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: TLI

“I shot you! You’re dead!” “NUH-UHHHH!” “UH-HUHHH!” “NUH-UHHHH!”

}:-)4


14 posted on 07/09/2008 1:19:55 PM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: PurpleMan

Black uniforms in a sub-tropical city tells you all you need to know about Riley’s lack of brainpower.


15 posted on 07/09/2008 1:20:34 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: PurpleMan

I wore Woodland BDUs* for 13 years in the Army. I don’t know how many soldiers were killed in battle wearing it, but I’d bet it was more than eighteen.

*(Yeah, I know...six-color DCUs during the Gulf. Even so...)

If they’d let me back in today, I know they’d want me wearing that grayish digital thing, and would frown on me showing up in Woodland.

To paraphrase my favorite SECDEF: “You go on duty in the uniform you’re issued, not the one you want or wish to wear.”


16 posted on 07/09/2008 1:21:18 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (I've been waiting since 11/04/79 for us (US) to do something about Iran.)
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To: Mark was here

“We are talking about a big boy here who is supposed to go out and make sure everyone else is playing by the rules, and he can not even wear the outfit he is being paid to wear?”

Yeah, by all means screw the guy because he wore a different shirt on his last day of a job he held for 35 years.

You freakin’ “zero tolerance” bureaucrat wanna-bees don’t mind screwing with a 35 year veteran over a stupid shirt. Makes me sick.


17 posted on 07/09/2008 1:21:35 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: JennysCool

I agree but, the retiring officer should have just cleared it first.

I can imagine that the anal-retentive supervisor might have been a bit more tolerant of the change after having it explained.


18 posted on 07/09/2008 1:21:35 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Yes it is N O and the rules down that way only apply when you want to follow them.
When he took the job he knew he had to follow the rules but now he thinks he is too good for that. The next time he willfully breaks department rules he should be fired on the spot.
We trust this person to follow the law so what happens when he decides not to follow the law? He obviously thinks he is above having to obey department rules so I highly suspect that he looks at local, state, and federal, laws with the same disrespect. He is putting himself above the rules, his superiors, and the law. This is not someone who should be wearing a badge. The simple and obvious answer to this is that he can make whatever statement he wants just as soon as he is off duty. The question is why didn't he choose to do it in that manner?
19 posted on 07/09/2008 1:23:29 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (I'm a retired disabled AB Ranger and I'm damn proud of it!!!!!)
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To: livius
What’s with the all-black uniform?

Isn’t New Orleans pretty hot anyway? Then put your men in all black. Are they asking to give the guys heat stroke?

20 posted on 07/09/2008 1:28:10 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Mark was here
Yeah are confusing obeying the laws of the land with a dress code for one department in one state.. The fact of the matter is he was wearing a uniform that up until 2005 was the uniform of service for NO... and as of January will be the Uniform of service.... As state he was wearing it in ceremonial recognition... paying homage to those that had lost their lives during his 18 years of service. Yes he violate the dress code and uniform standards for his department... he violate a department rule... he did not break and laws or codes in the city.

The act that was taken by the chief considering the circumstance was petty and inappropriate..

Now if in his last fifteen minutes of work he went out and committed illicit activities that is a different story...

no one should be punished for showing honor to those he served with....

but you are entitled to you patronizing opinion. Unless you can cite for me where his act was so egregious that it warranted a reprimand I believe this was a petty act by a petty person

21 posted on 07/09/2008 1:29:25 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Don't Think a cop will help? Try calling a crack head next time......!! Thanks Thorin!)
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To: oldenuff2no

“When he took the job he knew he had to follow the rules but now he thinks he is too good for that. The next time he willfully breaks department rules he should be fired on the spot.”

It was the last 15 minutes of his last day of work after 35 years of service.

He spent 35 years of his life protecting idiots like you. God bless the man.

As for the likes of you, you couldn’t carry his jock.


22 posted on 07/09/2008 1:29:50 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: ExGeeEye

I completely agree with you, and his “statement” is just so useless. Honor can be appreciated by the living, not the dead, but also, how about if he decided to wear a skirt because several of them were women. Sorry, spur of the moment example.
I view his meaningless statement as useful as lefties going naked for some cause. What’s that got to do with it and how’s it going to help?? What if every LEO in town decided to wear some other uniform on any given day to “make a statement”
That being said, this suspension is WAYYYY over the top and unduly punitive.


23 posted on 07/09/2008 1:30:53 PM PDT by DeLaine (I see dumb people. They're everywhere. They don't even know they're dumb.)
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To: L98Fiero
I agree that the supervisor is a dipsh+t. That being said it is amusing when the rule enforcers eat their own.

Perhaps the supervisor had to get his quota of suspensions in, and damn who ever gets in the way.

24 posted on 07/09/2008 1:31:07 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: oldenuff2no

You’re post was the biggest stretch since the rubber band was invented.
Because he broke some rule, now you have him breaking federal law and doing all sorts of nefarious things. And fire him. ROTFLMAO.
What part of “IT’S HIS LAST DAY” did you miss???

It’s not that he was so right, it’s that the punishment did NOT fit the “crime”


25 posted on 07/09/2008 1:33:39 PM PDT by DeLaine (I see dumb people. They're everywhere. They don't even know they're dumb.)
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To: PurpleMan
Young said Riley stressed that "an officer has to maintain professionalism at all times, whether it is his first or last day."

Absolutely agree. So what is unprofessional about wearing a police uniform shirt that is blue instead of black?

I could see them making him come in and change his shirt for the remainder of his shift (all of about 5 minutes), but that's as far as this should have gone. I do wonder why they bothered when the guy only had 15 minutes left on his shift on his last day of work. Almost makes me believe the brass had it out for this guy, and this was the only thing they could get him on.

26 posted on 07/09/2008 1:43:29 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Americanwolf
Was it in the terms of his contract that he wear the proper outfit?

Cops in Phoenix, are suing the taxpayers for payment for the time they spend getting dressed up in their uniforms.

Next the cops will be suing the taxpayers for not getting paid for making individual fashon statements.

When I see a cop sitting in a speed trap on my way home, I'll decide how sorry I feel for this guy.

27 posted on 07/09/2008 1:46:20 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: TLI

I take it school bus Nagin didn’t pull the trigger after that photo was snapped.


28 posted on 07/09/2008 1:47:25 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Mark was here
They are supposed to wear a “uniform”, not a “different”.

Then maybe they should consider getting rid of plainclothes, undercover and unmarked vehicles (fine with me, BTW).

29 posted on 07/09/2008 1:47:51 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: oldenuff2no
The next time he willfully breaks department rules he should be fired on the spot.

The next time? Go back and actually read the article.

30 posted on 07/09/2008 1:48:00 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Americanwolf

In the military we had a name for petty tyrants’ petty rules: Chickensh!t.


31 posted on 07/09/2008 1:48:31 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Mark was here

We are talking about a 35 year guy going through the motions on his last day before retirement.

Sheesh!


32 posted on 07/09/2008 1:48:39 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: PurpleMan
"A lot of uniforms were displaced after the storm, and they wanted to eliminate the possibility of uniforms getting into the hands of criminals,"

Wouldn't want them to be mistaken for looters, now would we. Oh, wait...

33 posted on 07/09/2008 1:49:59 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: PurpleMan
Read the huge string of comments at the nola.com link.

The people of NOLA (including several of his fellow officers are highly PO'd at "Chief" Riley -- and "Mayor" Nagin.

I agree with the guy who said they should just open the levees and give the whole stinking mess back to the alligators and nutria...

But, first, they should ride Nagin, Riley, and the rest of their cronies out of town on a rail -- complete with tar and feathers!!!

34 posted on 07/09/2008 1:51:32 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: TLI

Thanks for the picture of Guidry....that explains it all.


35 posted on 07/09/2008 1:54:57 PM PDT by Roccus (sync//sync//eot)
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To: MileHi

This is why cops say the law is meant for everyone.

Sure it is a trivial mater, but so is going 58 in a 55.


36 posted on 07/09/2008 1:56:30 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: MileHi

...and his finger was on the trigger, too...


37 posted on 07/09/2008 1:58:37 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: MileHi

...and his finger was on the trigger, too...


38 posted on 07/09/2008 1:58:51 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Usually I just called them sir...... Calling an officer ChickenS*** would usually get me in trouble :)


39 posted on 07/09/2008 1:59:45 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Don't Think a cop will help? Try calling a crack head next time......!! Thanks Thorin!)
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To: livius
What’s with the all-black uniform? Do they look like waiters or like storm troopers?

Storm Troopers. All the better to confiscate your firearms.

40 posted on 07/09/2008 2:05:51 PM PDT by magslinger (Infidel, American type, quantity one (1) each.)
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To: PurpleMan
The supervisor violated the Leno Rule.

As an attorney, I once kept a public official, with another governmental entity, from doing something similarly petty, vicious and stupid. When he smugly told me that his attorneys (the one's his agency hired with taxpayer dollars) told him that it did not violate the law for him to do what he was planning to do, I told him, "Yeah, but it violates the Leno Rule."

He looked perplexed, and asked "What is that?"

I said: "You violate the Leno Rule when you do something that, even if legal, is so unfair, so preposterous, so incredibly lacking in good judgment, that if Jay Leno hears about, he will make fun of you in his monologue on The Tonight Show.

The official didn't speak to me for a couple of years, but he also didn't break the Leno Rule.

41 posted on 07/09/2008 2:12:55 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Mark was here

ok.....


42 posted on 07/09/2008 2:14:44 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Mark was here
This is why cops say the law is meant for everyone.

Isn't this the police department which used to have officers who served for years supplementing their salaries by performing professional hits for mobsters? Good to see that they are strict about the important things, like shirt color!

43 posted on 07/09/2008 2:15:06 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: TXnMA
I love democRat photo-ops with “assault rifles”.

Even though they are both idiots, they don't seem to fear those particular “high powered assault rifles that only have one purpose, to kill as many people as possible”.

44 posted on 07/09/2008 2:17:51 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: PurpleMan
IMHO, any troop who has put in 35 years of good service has the right to a little bit of "FIGMO!" attitude on his very final day of service...

I suppose he could have worn a black armband in memory of his fallen fellows -- but that would not have been "uniform" either -- and it would have been invisible against the required black JBT shirt...

I agree with some of the NOLA.com posters: he should run for Chief of Police during the next election...

45 posted on 07/09/2008 2:46:59 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: TLI

What terrible muzzle awareness. What a stupid photo.


46 posted on 07/09/2008 2:47:12 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: livius
What’s with the all-black uniform? Do they look like waiters or like storm troopers?

Maybe the powers that be thought officers in New Orleans weren't warm enough.

47 posted on 07/09/2008 3:07:12 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: PurpleMan
but the looter cops got a pass...
48 posted on 07/09/2008 3:21:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: PurpleMan
Sgt. Guidry:

Supt. Riley:

Any questions?

49 posted on 07/09/2008 3:30:14 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: mass55th; Understated; Cagey; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Tatze; knarf; Larry Lucido

Not a one. I fully understand.


50 posted on 07/09/2008 4:08:44 PM PDT by DeLaine (Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity)
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