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McCain Named Steelers Defensive Line In POW Camp
KDKA (PITTSBURGH) ^ | July 09, 2008 | Jon Delano

Posted on 07/09/2008 1:16:13 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

In his first sit-down interview with KDKA Political Editor Jon Delano, U.S. Sen. John McCain recounted how he would recite the Pittsburgh Steelers defensive line-up to his North Vietnamese captors.

..."When I was first interrogated and really had to give some information because of the physical pressures that were on me, I named the starting lineup -- defensive line -- of the Pittsburgh Steelers as my squadron-mates!"

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: mccain; nfl; packers; pittsburgh; pittsburghsteelers; pow; senile; steelers; vietcong
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1 posted on 07/09/2008 1:16:14 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Mean Joe Greene, L.C. Greenwood, Dwight White, and Ernie Holmes!


2 posted on 07/09/2008 1:18:16 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Steel Curtain PING!


3 posted on 07/09/2008 1:19:31 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Can you imagine the reaction of his captors when they found out?


4 posted on 07/09/2008 1:19:54 PM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create divisiveness.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

To further throw the VC off, McCain should have thrown in Myron Cope.


5 posted on 07/09/2008 1:19:56 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
MCCAIN / SWANN '08 !!!

6 posted on 07/09/2008 1:22:34 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The story I heard was that it was the Green Bay Packers DL.


7 posted on 07/09/2008 1:24:54 PM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Wouldn’t that be the ‘68 line when McCain was first interogated?

Dick Arndt, Chuck Hinton, Ken Kortas, Ben McGee, Frank Parker , Ernie Rupee and Lloyd Voss are a coming to kick your a$$ Ho Chi Minh.


8 posted on 07/09/2008 1:26:59 PM PDT by A message
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To: A message

Yeah, I guess you’re right.


9 posted on 07/09/2008 1:29:57 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: A message

i was gonna say- Mean Joe Green was a rookie in 1969- two years after McCain had already been a POW....I hope he clarifies this as the rat-wingers will have a field day...

if you look at the story he does not mention the Steel curtain at all.....


10 posted on 07/09/2008 1:30:48 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

That can’t be right. The Steeler’s line in ‘68 wasn’t noteworthy to a nonSteelers fan, and I don’t see how McCain would be a Steeler’s fan. I also assume that he wasn’t watching any football during his imprisonment.


11 posted on 07/09/2008 1:31:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Pistolshot
“Can you imagine the reaction of his captors when they found out?”

Probably not pleasant. I remember during the Pueblo incident the NK’s took a group photo for PR purposes. One of the sailors was flipping off photographer. It was initially explained to the NK’s as an American greeting or something like that. When they found out what it really meant the crew members were used as punching/kicking bags

12 posted on 07/09/2008 1:33:30 PM PDT by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’m reading a biography of Bud Day right now... the key was to lie, but to lie in such a way that you remember what you said so you could repeat it the next time you were interrogated.

Day would say his squadron mates were Charles Lindberg, Wiley Post, and Glenn Curtis.


13 posted on 07/09/2008 1:34:38 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: Perdogg; scott says

bttt


14 posted on 07/09/2008 1:34:44 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: nickcarraway

I just called the McCain campaign headquarters to hear them off on this....the guy who answered the phone sounded like he could care less...


15 posted on 07/09/2008 1:37:31 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: nickcarraway

Aw c’mon! Wouldn’t watching the Stillers on a wide-screen plasma over a few beers with the NVA guards at the Hanoi Hilton have been “seared” into your memory?

Sounds like McCain has a case of the Hillaries (or the Kerries).


16 posted on 07/09/2008 1:39:34 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: martin_fierro

Ping


17 posted on 07/09/2008 1:39:38 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Friends with umbrellas are outstanding in the rain.)
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To: Polynikes

As I recall the Pueblo sailors described ‘The Bird’ as the “Hawaiian Good Luck Sign”.


18 posted on 07/09/2008 1:40:46 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
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19 posted on 07/09/2008 1:43:40 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote For McCain But Trust In The Lord.)
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Ol' Jack wasn't on the team in '68?

You tell him.

20 posted on 07/09/2008 1:46:36 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: stainlessbanner; 4everontheRight; ABG(anybody but Gore); Abbeville Conservative; admiralsn; ...

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21 posted on 07/09/2008 1:47:46 PM PDT by scott says
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To: Berlin_Freeper
McCain was captured in October 1967. The Steelers were 4-9 in 1967 and 2-11 in 1968. Their defensive stats were average. I don't think that the Hanoi Hilton got NFL Sunday Package. If McCain could recite their defensive line, he must have been some sort of NFL savant.
22 posted on 07/09/2008 1:51:42 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Reminds me of the crew of the USS Pueblo giving the North Koreans the finger and explaining to them that it was the Hawaiian Good Luck sign.

Click here for article

23 posted on 07/09/2008 1:56:21 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: Plutarch
If McCain could recite their defensive line, he must have been some sort of NFL savant.

Nah ... nothing wrong with him being a Steelers fan, and if he paid any attention to their games it wouldn't be tough to remember the names of the DL.

24 posted on 07/09/2008 1:56:46 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Berlin_Freeper
[ ..."When I was first interrogated and really had to give some information because of the physical pressures that were on me, I named the starting lineup -- defensive line -- of the Pittsburgh Steelers as my squadron-mates!" ]

Is it possible that John McLaim would LIE.. Lie right to your face and perform weaslly activites behind your back?.. The friend of Ted Kennedy and Joe Lieberman wouldn't LIE.. The bi-partisan weaslly inventor of the gang of 14 wouldn't lie.. Would he?..

25 posted on 07/09/2008 1:57:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Polynikes
While flipping off the NK's the Pueblo crew claimed it was the Hawaiian good luck sign.

They got away with it until Time Magazine spilled the beans then the crew got the crap kicked out of them.

26 posted on 07/09/2008 2:28:34 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Berlin_Freeper

At the same time “BHO” was reciting the names of the drug dealers on Pershing Road in Chicago.


27 posted on 07/09/2008 3:06:00 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: Berlin_Freeper
If only he had the names from the ‘90 Browns to cull from as well: Kosar, Gash, Slaughter to name a few ... pretty scary sounding names.
28 posted on 07/09/2008 3:10:08 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" white guy)
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To: Polynikes
You mean the infamous "Hawaiian Good Luck Sign"

More on the Pueblo Incident

29 posted on 07/09/2008 3:18:37 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Plutarch

“McCain was captured in October 1967. The Steelers were 4-9 in 1967 and 2-11 in 1968. Their defensive stats were average. I don’t think that the Hanoi Hilton got NFL Sunday Package. If McCain could recite their defensive line, he must have been some sort of NFL savant. “

The Steelers were in the running with the Eagles and Buffalo for the OJ draft pick. The PA teams were too stupid to win, and the Eagles had Norm Snead who’s idea of third and long was to throw a deep interception and sit down.

I don’t buy this for a second.


30 posted on 07/09/2008 3:37:23 PM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: Tribune7
The story I heard was that it was the Green Bay Packers DL.

Me too. And the Packers has been what is printed in the papers for more than a decade, not the Steelers.

Senility?

31 posted on 07/09/2008 4:07:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl (Schwarzenegger and McCain are trying to castrate the elephant)
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To: hosepipe
Yes he might “lie” as you say. You and a bunch here are nothing but a bunch of selfish brats that don't understand that this election is not about you and me; it's about our kids and grandkids. If that monkey (Osama/bama)gets elected the supreme court will CHANGE this country to the point that the consitution will not even resemble what it is today. McCain is all we have for not us, but our kids fair cut at this thing called the American dream. Go ahead and vote for the guy that has change. He frick’n well will change all of our lives.

Bash that piece of crap McCain, and I agree, but look at the alternative. It sucks, but that is life.

I contribute every month to this site and I am sick of the people like you that can't see the big picture. You think that drawing the line in the sand will change things in the future; you are so wrong, this country has never looked at the long term on anything.

Yea, I got my flame suit on and fire frick’n away!! I'm just a common guy that has busted his ass to get where I'm at and through that process I had to find middle ground to be successful. That is life.

32 posted on 07/09/2008 4:20:34 PM PDT by mmanager (What a mess we are in.)
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To: mmanager
[ I contribute every month to this site and I am sick of the people like you that can't see the big picture. You think that drawing the line in the sand will change things in the future; you are so wrong, this country has never looked at the long term on anything. ]

You must be a newbie in voting "republican".. -OR- dumb as the Asswip 2000 broom that Hillary rides.. (w/vibrator)..

The bromide... "vote republican or a monster will get in office" has lost it strengh.. some people(YOU) never learn.. I'm dumb also.. I voted for Bush Jr. Bush Sr. and his brother multiple times.. so I ain't too smart "EITHER"... But jeese are you oblivious?..

Obama will veer a bit to the center and McLAim "would" veer WAY to the left (as usual) when in office.. HAve you been paying attention for the past 25 years?.. OH! I forgot you are a newbie..

If your not a newbie .... is your name GUMP?... Jeese you buy them books and they eat the pages.. I'm telling you republicans are dumber than posts.. maybe the devilcrats are correct..

33 posted on 07/09/2008 4:33:53 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Willie Davis, Henry Jordan, Ron Kostelnik/Dave Hanner and Lionel Aldridge.


34 posted on 07/09/2008 4:42:26 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: hosepipe

Yea I’m a newbie that’s 51 years old and have lived a life that doesn’t have a silver spoon in it. I don’t give a crap when I joined, you guys think that your “born date” is some sort of merit badge. Get a life.

You are nothing but a selfish, I’ve been spit on as a kid and now I’m a bully guy. Think about someone else than yourself.


35 posted on 07/09/2008 4:42:51 PM PDT by mmanager (What a mess we are in.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Pittsburgh DT/DE's, 1967 :

Dick Arndt, John Baker, Chuck Hinton, Ken Kortas, Ben McGee, Lloyd Voss.

The 1967 Green Bay defensive line roster has a bunch of Hall of Famers.

36 posted on 07/09/2008 4:44:12 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: hosepipe

Hey Hose...your slip is showing, President George W. Bush is not a ‘Jr.’ as his name is not the same as President George H. W. Bush. The “Jr.” line is right out of the DU playbook.

You’ve been here since ‘98 and should know the difference.

So, you’ll be voting for Osamabama??


37 posted on 07/09/2008 4:51:20 PM PDT by GRRRRR (2008- A Year That Will Live in Infamy...)
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To: Tribune7
The story I heard was that it was the Green Bay Packers DL.

Nope, it was the Green Bay Packer's Offensive Line .

From Faith of My Fathers (Random House, August 1999):

Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant. Pressed for more useful information, I gave the names of the Green Bay Packers' offensive line, and said they were members of my squadron. When asked to identify future targets, I simply recited the names of a number of North Vietnamese cities that had already been bombed. [Page 194*]

38 posted on 07/09/2008 4:51:50 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: GRRRRR
[ President George W. Bush is not a ‘Jr.’ as his name is not the same as President George H. W. Bush. The “Jr.” line is right out of the DU playbook. ]

The son of "read my lips no new taxes" is regularly called junior as an epithet.. DU and Bushbots have a lot in common.. They are both globalists.. as is George Bush.. both of them.. Junior and Senior are BIG government republicans.. a.k.a. RINOs.. As is McLaim.. I have a feeling the Bushes and Obama are controlled by the same people.. Obama won't be as bad as is expected HERE... and Mclaim will not be a good as expected HERE..

Call me for the civil war.. ONLY a very bloody civil war can CHANGE THINGS.. Voting for the arch weasle McLAim WILL NOT.. And voting for Obama will be a popcorn fart.. With both will be more taxes more socialism and less republic..

39 posted on 07/09/2008 5:01:45 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Plutarch

Wow. He was a serious fan. I don’t think I could name any team’s OL ever.


40 posted on 07/09/2008 5:03:21 PM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: GRRRRR
[ So, you’ll be voting for Osamabama?? ]

No.. Kingfish and Ferret face will unite in bi-partisanship.. as they factor in the Hildebeast.. in the coming Mystic Knights of the Sea, White House.. Whichever one wins will unite with the other(s) masking unity..

41 posted on 07/09/2008 5:07:07 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

You are truly a nut! I am sure when Obama is elected you will no longer post here. You won’t have any skin in the deal!


42 posted on 07/09/2008 5:12:07 PM PDT by mmanager (What a mess we are in.)
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To: mmanager

I despise McCain but I’ll take him any day over Obama and this election is very crucial. Not a time for voters like me to ego trip on hating McCain. Anything but Obama!


43 posted on 07/09/2008 5:25:51 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: hosepipe

Gee, and you like it here in America...I’m pretty extreme, I don’t care much for McCain, but he’s all we got between us and really bad people.

Have a nice one, I hope your head doesn’t explode, I know reality really sux right now.

Seriously, WHO will you be voting for? Barr or Paul?


44 posted on 07/09/2008 5:34:15 PM PDT by GRRRRR (2008- A Year That Will Live in Infamy...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The thing is, if the Viets bought it, Hugh Hewitt is going to have to replace “Steeler Fan” with “NVA Interrogator” as his official standard of stupidity. Because, of course, Steeler Fan would at least recognize his own D-line. He may be stupid, but not THAT stupid.


45 posted on 07/09/2008 5:34:46 PM PDT by RichInOC (McCain '08: The Vietnamese Are Always Number One With Me. (Right, Demo Dick?))
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To: Plutarch
From Faith of My Fathers (Random House, August 1999):

I think the story here, in between all the hosepipe bashing, is mccain is so damned feeble minded he forgot what was written....in his own book. Steelers are not the Packers.

46 posted on 07/09/2008 5:46:25 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: GRRRRR

GRRRR, I am as well considerde extreme. But with any negotiations one has to find middle ground. I have had my share of shit sandwiches in my life but that is life. I look at this election in one simple term: Without national security the rest is for not. Similar to the second ammendment....PERIOD

This other clown puts this up for grabs, case closed.


47 posted on 07/09/2008 5:46:45 PM PDT by mmanager (What a mess we are in.)
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To: mmanager

You got that right..big time.
If we get attacked again, here, USA soil and Obamalama is in charge, he’ll be beggin’ and whinin’...about how sorry we are that we MADE the terrorists hit us again.

McCain has promised to kill terrorists. Pretty much all else pales if we have some sort of nuke go off in NY or CHI or St. Louie etc.

He might try to keep taxes down, he might appoint someone semi conservative to the Supremes and other courts...one can hope I guess.

I’m sick of illegal aliens, fed up with high taxes and despise the left wing hatriots and all the whiners who won’t be voting because they can’t have it all 100%...hey, let’s deal with reality...McCain is it, sadly.


48 posted on 07/09/2008 5:53:59 PM PDT by GRRRRR (2008- A Year That Will Live in Infamy...)
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To: GRRRRR
[ Seriously, WHO will you be voting for? Barr or Paul? ]

Thought about Paul.. neither(BArr/Paul) has a ghost of a chance and would be merely a protest vote.. WHich I'm open to but after thinking about it.. Barr is too sleazy being an ex-ACLU lawyer and Paul is too conservative actually the ONLY conservative except for Hunter.. I believe America is finished.. one election too late.. "W" was our last chance I think.. And he turned out to be a ringer too..

I'm going to set this one out.. first time in 40 years.. Making the same mistake over and over is mental dysfunction.. Really Obama is no worse than Hillary or Bill Clinton by the way.. They all have the same mentors.. and are following Antonio Gramsci's plan to a tea..

America has been pretty much brain washed.. Republicans are in gross denial.. McLaim is a ringer too..

49 posted on 07/09/2008 6:51:31 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: mmanager
[ You are truly a nut! I am sure when Obama is elected you will no longer post here. ]

One of us is a nut true.... I was posting here when you were voting for some other ringer.. You must be a Unite'er not a Divide'er like George Bush.. You know that cliche was seriously lame even when he said it.. However he did unite with democrats(Rinos) for 7 years..(NO Vetos).. Back before he fractured the republican party ON PURPOSE..

50 posted on 07/09/2008 6:57:44 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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