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Plunging necklines blamed for plunging sales by female M&S shareholders (Marks and Spencer in UK)
The Evening Standard (U.K.) ^ | July 9, 2008

Posted on 07/09/2008 1:36:49 PM PDT by Stoat

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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Well, now I know: "Sales will follow necklines and stocks will follow dress hemlines."
The eyes might be in for something good ... but what's that say for the economy?
21 posted on 07/09/2008 1:52:00 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Stoat
I suppose theres a downside to "plunging necklines" , and its probably not only older women who might not find them too flattering.
22 posted on 07/09/2008 1:52:14 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Stoat

I’m glad they are finally getting the message! I for one have been scouring thrift shops and goodwills for decent clothing. I’m 50 and I refuse to wear any teen fashion. I recently have acquired a strong taste for anything from the 40’s and 50’s. I have decided to go with what I like and the hell with the fashion trend!


23 posted on 07/09/2008 1:53:04 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Stoat

Girl in the last pic is not guilty.


24 posted on 07/09/2008 1:54:22 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Stoat
Ah for the good old days (sigh)
25 posted on 07/09/2008 1:54:41 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: Stoat

Young Mr. Grace says that there’s nothing at all wrong with plunging necklines and skinny young models, thank you very much.

Miss Brahms, are you free?


26 posted on 07/09/2008 1:59:37 PM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: Stoat

The clothes pictured don’t look too bad except for the last girl in the purple dress. I wouldn’t wear it because the neckline is too low.


27 posted on 07/09/2008 1:59:46 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: Stoat

“too much cleavage”

What do these words mean? They don’t seem to make sense.


28 posted on 07/09/2008 2:00:25 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Nonstatist

29 posted on 07/09/2008 2:02:23 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Stoat

Not guilty!


30 posted on 07/09/2008 2:02:28 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Osage Orange

What district do you represent? Cuz I’m pretty sure she’s black.


31 posted on 07/09/2008 2:02:40 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: GadareneDemoniac

Young Mr. Grace’s tastes run to shapely blonde nurses in tight skirts and uniform front open down to the waist. ;-) Mr. Peacock enforces the dress code, though.


32 posted on 07/09/2008 2:18:01 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: Slapshot68

My girls are teens and look at boys shorts for something decent. At 4 that should be easier.


33 posted on 07/09/2008 2:20:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Land’s End does tend to have more modest stuff. We’ve bought LOTS of clothes from them over the years.

However, Land’s End isn’t what it used to be since Sears bought them out. I’ve noticed a clear decrease in quality.


34 posted on 07/09/2008 2:23:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Osage Orange

Okay, I guess we’ll have to call you The Honorable Osage Orange.


35 posted on 07/09/2008 2:24:17 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Nonstatist

Baggies


36 posted on 07/09/2008 2:25:11 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: 3AngelaD; Melas; Pinkbell; Perdogg; All
Melas said:

I agree with everything you’ve said, however based on the photographs presented, this case, unlike the Nordstrom incident, is without merit. If those fashions aren’t conservative enough for you, then you’re Amish.

Pinkbell said:

The clothes pictured don’t look too bad except for the last girl in the purple dress. I wouldn’t wear it because the neckline is too low.

Perdogg said:

She’s not dressed like a slut.

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I'm wondering if it could be that the featured and heavily-promoted fashions on display on the sales floor differ from what is typically presented in online catalogs?  The lady shareholders apparently have the view that revealing fashions are being excessively promoted, but I agree that 'most' of the catalog pictures, at least in the initial pages,  don't look terribly revealing.

Consider also the matter of Nordstrom's, which also features what I would consider unobjectionable ladies' fashions at least in the first few online pages

Women's Apparel Online - Nordstrom

Yet there's an entirely different view from Freeper 3AngelaD, whose view of Nordstrom's appears to be similar to that of the Marks and Spencer lady shareholders:

3AngelaD said:

Nordstrom has gotten a little better, but not much. Your choice is still pretty much look like a hooker, or a waif, or look like someone’s Granny in a knit suit. Their casual clothes are fine, but it takes forever to find something there that is attractive, professional looking, but not revealing. Don’t get me started. For instance, women over the age of 14 should not wear pleated skirts. It makes their butts look huge regardless of what size they are. So of course Nordstorm has 10 different jackets that I would like to own — but only offers pleated skirts with them. Or their wide selection of blouses with little cap sleeves that make anyone who weighs more than 115 pounds look like she has overstuff-sausages for arms. I could go on, but you get the picture. Nordstrom gets a lot of my money for shoes and hand bags, but not a lot for clothing any more. I am over at Bloomingdale’s and Neiman’s, and maybe Sak’s.

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Being a male stoat and I confess, not a terribly fashionable one, I haven't really paid attention as to whether there's a big difference between what's heavily promoted in-store versus what's in the catalogs and the online sites in terms of ladies' fashions. 

Has anyone noticed a significant difference in these sales mediums in terms of what's offered?  The Marks and Spencer lady shareholders and 3AngelaD appear to suggest that there may be.

37 posted on 07/09/2008 2:25:34 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: 3AngelaD

I’m appalled at some of the styles of clothing that are offered in larger sizes, like tube tops, halters, and above the knee skirts.

Some clothes just should not be made in some sizes.


38 posted on 07/09/2008 2:26:14 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: freedomlover
Hey Freedom, most of those skags, like the one in the green dress look like they have two hot water bottles hanging around their necks. That might be OK for a young one with firm breasts, but these gals make you wonder how much milk they would give if you could get them on green grass. P.S, I am an 80 year old guy, and I know Class when I see it, and these Hooker Lookers are not classy. Remember Sophia, Loren, and Grace Kelly, they had class, how about Ingrid Bergman, talking to Bogey, in the moon light, with the tears in her eyes. Ah for the good old days when women looked like women not some escape for a Nevada Hook Shop.
39 posted on 07/09/2008 2:28:27 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: freedomlover
Hey Freedom, most of those skags, like the one in the green dress look like they have two hot water bottles hanging around their necks. That might be OK for a young one with firm breasts, but these gals make you wonder how much milk they would give if you could get them on green grass. P.S, I am an 80 year old guy, and I know Class when I see it, and these Hooker Lookers are not classy. Remember Sophia, Loren, and Grace Kelly, they had class, how about Ingrid Bergman, talking to Bogey, in the moon light, with the tears in her eyes. Ah for the good old days when women looked like women not some escape for a Nevada Hook Shop.
40 posted on 07/09/2008 2:28:30 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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