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Salmonella Illness Toll Tops 1,000; Officials Eye Jalapeno Peppers
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 9, 2008 | JANE ZHANG

Posted on 07/09/2008 4:13:14 PM PDT by Pinkbell

WASHINGTON -- More than 1,000 people have become sick in the salmonella outbreak originally blamed on tomatoes, and federal health officials now say jalapeno peppers appear more likely to be at fault, at least in three large clusters of illnesses.

The outbreak has caused the death of a Texas man in his 80s, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday. The agency said the outbreak may also have contributed to the death of another Texas man, who had cancer.

As of Tuesday, 1,017 people -- from 41 states, the District of Columbia and Canada -- had become sick from the rare salmonella strain dubbed Saintpaul, the CDC said. The first patient became sick on April 10 and the last, on June 26. The latest figure is an increase from the 943 cases that were reported as of July 3.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: foodsupply; health; jalapenopeppers; salmonella; tomatoes
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1 posted on 07/09/2008 4:13:14 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell
Eets a Jalapeño

...on a steeek...

2 posted on 07/09/2008 4:16:13 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: null and void

Darn it, you beat me to it.


3 posted on 07/09/2008 4:17:01 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: Pinkbell
Gee, thanks Meheeco.

Yes, I think Mexican products are the cause.

4 posted on 07/09/2008 4:18:23 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: dfwgator
The 142nd fastest gun in the west...
5 posted on 07/09/2008 4:19:23 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: Pinkbell

Heard somewhere that jalepenos somehow provide a better medium for salmonella growth than many other vegetables, though it wasn’t explained why.

Anyone want to bet these peppers are or aren’t from Mexico?


6 posted on 07/09/2008 4:19:35 PM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: theDentist

>>>>>Yes, I think Mexican products are the cause.

Shhhh.... that’s a secret.


7 posted on 07/09/2008 4:20:19 PM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: Pinkbell

originally blamed on tomatoes....jalapeno peppers appear more likely to be at fault
It appears to me that the CBC doesn’t know exactly what is causing the deaths or illnesses of the public. First, they said coffee was no good for you, now they say it is. Secondly, unless a person is allergic to something, if it’s consumed in moderation, it most likely won’t bother you. In excess, everything is bad for you, including water. Drowning??? (laugh inserted here) Americans need to watch what they eat and do it in moderation. Plain and simple.


8 posted on 07/09/2008 4:20:21 PM PDT by antiunion person (President McCain, what a disgusting phrase.)
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To: dfwgator
null and void, dfw gator....you both beat me to it.

Great minds think alike....on a steeeeeeeeeek!

9 posted on 07/09/2008 4:21:26 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Pinkbell

Tomato producers were hit hard. A few days ago it was thought to be from salsa...now jalapenos? I realize they must investigate by patterns but it’s getting ridiculous. All over, restaurants are posting no tomatoes...no salsa. No peppers will probably be up tomorrow. The ironic thing is that they are inadvertently going to make money by not having to purchase produce, unless they are giving the public a discount and when I ask I’m told ...no change in price.


10 posted on 07/09/2008 4:22:00 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: angkor

everyone seems to be afraid to say it


11 posted on 07/09/2008 4:22:14 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Pinkbell

bookmark


12 posted on 07/09/2008 4:25:12 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Pinkbell

I grow my own peppers and tomatoes, and I pick them myself so I don’t have to worry about a bunch of illegal aliens crapping and pissing on them. No salmonella here!


13 posted on 07/09/2008 4:25:49 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: theDentist

It may be a Mexico agriculture problem or it might be something else. Not to be an alarmist but it would be probably easy for a “bad” person to contaminate our food. I suppose that we would never hear about it if that were so though.


14 posted on 07/09/2008 4:26:32 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: antiunion person; Grampa Dave; okie01

If it is like the spinach outbreak, they will issue vague after vague statement. Because it was not some farmer to blame, but a big business that was washing and packaging the greens, a process that caused cross-contamination. That business will be protected “for the sake of business.”

I suspect here too a single source point is the culprit. Are jalapenos packaged so? What about cilantro too?


15 posted on 07/09/2008 4:26:43 PM PDT by Shermy ("But when democratic society says "no", you need some sort of democratic solution." /sarc)
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To: CindyDawg

At first not everyone was selling tomatoes, but some restaurants still did. Tumbleweed said they get their tomatoes from California, and their tomatoes were not affected. I didn’t eat the two slices in my salad just in case. I had a salad at Olive Garden the other night, and tomatoes were in it.


16 posted on 07/09/2008 4:29:44 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: Shermy

If it is preparation related...I would look for chicken processing in the near area.


17 posted on 07/09/2008 4:30:24 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Pinkbell

You pay for tomatoes in your salad. Did Olive Garden give you a discount?


18 posted on 07/09/2008 4:31:48 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: antiunion person; Grampa Dave; okie01
That was quick:

High-Tech Packaging Keeps Cut Produce Fresh


Food technologist Yaguang Luo and plant pathologist James McEvoy collect a sample of sanitized fresh-cut cilantro from a produce washer.

19 posted on 07/09/2008 4:32:31 PM PDT by Shermy ("But when democratic society says "no", you need some sort of democratic solution." /sarc)
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To: Pinkbell

maybe they oughta

radiate all of our food?


20 posted on 07/09/2008 4:38:55 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: theDentist

>>>>>everyone seems to be afraid to say it

An epidemiologist on PBS news last week came pretty close but kept steering around the obvious. “Something eaten raw and with tomatos, perhaps with salsa or pico de gallo.” Onions? Nope. Coriander? Maybe. Garlic? Nope. Jalepenos? Probably.

In my local ethnic market in Virginia (Asian/Hispanic) Jalpenos are sold in bulk by the pound from a HUGE cardboard box (3x3x4 feet) and they come from ..... Mexico!

And Virginia has been one of the top 10 (if not top 5) states under scrutiny.


21 posted on 07/09/2008 4:39:39 PM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: Shermy
>>>>Are jalapenos packaged so? What about cilantro too?

In my local ethnic/Hispanic market jalapenos are sold in bulk by the pound from a big huge box in the produce section.

Has anyone heard the ethnicity of the victims? I'm betting 90 percent Hispanic who shop at local ethnic markets.

22 posted on 07/09/2008 4:43:22 PM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: Pinkbell
No matter how many Americans get sick or die,
no matter how many sources of Mexican or terrorist feces are involved,
no matter how at risk the American food supply is,
the CDC will always blame it on a tomato, or a pepper.


23 posted on 07/09/2008 4:44:57 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: angkor

I would say that at least 90% of Jalepenos are imported. They are too labor intensive for the price to be grown in the US.


24 posted on 07/09/2008 4:47:51 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Shermy

Think third world labor with no training and skills in personal hygiene/sanitation practices.

Doesn’t matter what the vegie or fruit was or is.


25 posted on 07/09/2008 4:48:51 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (America's Mugabe, the Obamination.will bring Mugabe Change to America!)
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To: lesser_satan
***I grow my own peppers and tomatoes, and I pick them myself so I don’t have to worry about a bunch of illegal aliens crapping and pissing on them. No salmonella here!***

Your voice in the wilderness. But not too many others will speak out also.

It's just another price we pay for illegals.

26 posted on 07/09/2008 4:50:36 PM PDT by mommadooo3 (Old concept in justice. If the law won't take care of it, it's just us.)
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To: CindyDawg

No. I ate the salad. It’s been my understanding that they don’t think the tomatoes have been the problem. I figured the restaurant wouldn’t risk giving them to customers if they thought there was any chance they could be contaminated due to legal reprecussions.


27 posted on 07/09/2008 4:53:50 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: Pinkbell

I made some cabbage salsa the other night and my hands were on fire for several hours from cutting up two jalapenos. And I know better too—next time I’ll make sure I wear gloves. I soaked the peppers, cilantro, and tomatoes in vinegar beforehand. I don’t know if that does any good or not to kill any buggies but none of us got sick from it.


28 posted on 07/09/2008 4:55:26 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: angkor

We usually try to avoid produce from Mexico simply because we’ve heard stories of poor conditions there.


29 posted on 07/09/2008 4:58:26 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: CindyDawg
Tomato producers were hit hard. A few days ago it was thought to be from salsa...now jalapenos? I realize they must investigate by patterns but it’s getting ridiculous. All over, restaurants are posting no tomatoes...no salsa. No peppers will probably be up tomorrow. The ironic thing is that they are inadvertently going to make money by not having to purchase produce, unless they are giving the public a discount and when I ask I’m told ...no change in price.

Doesn't it seem strange to you that after all this time the genius's at the CDC can't tell you if it is the tomatoes or the peppers.

30 posted on 07/09/2008 5:02:09 PM PDT by dearolddad (Like $6.00 + gas? Be sure to thank a democrap.)
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To: All

Certain produce shipments halted out of Mexico
http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=8632048&nav=0s3d


31 posted on 07/09/2008 5:05:29 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: richace
It’s like the B.H. Obama of countries. ohn a steeeeek...
33 posted on 07/09/2008 5:12:52 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: lesser_satan

We planted a garden this year. Tonight I had tamales with homemade salsa (japalenos) and Spanish Rice made with fresh tomatos.
No worries here either.


34 posted on 07/09/2008 6:15:07 PM PDT by sheana
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To: antiunion person

So, you’re up for eating a moderate amount of salmonella? ;)
susie


35 posted on 07/10/2008 6:27:13 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: CindyDawg

That keeps cropping into my mind CindyDawg!
susie


36 posted on 07/10/2008 6:28:31 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: CindyDawg

Wow, you and I are on the same wavelength today. Chicken connection was the first thing I thought of when this started. I wonder if they fertilize with chicken droppings anywhere?
susie


37 posted on 07/10/2008 6:29:51 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Pinkbell

I’ve been eating tomatoes as often as ever. No problems at all.


38 posted on 07/10/2008 6:31:14 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: beaversmom

I’m laughing because I once made jalapeno jelly, didn’t know to wear gloves. I had to sleep with my hands in ice water!!!! LOL

susie


39 posted on 07/10/2008 6:33:29 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

I was wondering about run off water they might use to clean the birds.


40 posted on 07/10/2008 6:36:32 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: brytlea

I was wondering about run off water they might use to clean the birds.


41 posted on 07/10/2008 6:36:52 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: brytlea

I was going around with cold water in a cup. I tried to lay down and it was miserable so I soaked them in a bucket in the bed and ended up getting water all over the bed. My left hand was the worst. I literally felt like I had been burned. I’m going to make some more cabbage salsa but I’ll definitely put on gloves. I had it happen once before so you think I would have learned. That was when I tried to make jalapeno poppers from sratch (which have never really turned out for me). I guess I thought that just cutting up two wouldn’t cause the same reaction as cutting up a bunch but I learned my lesson.


42 posted on 07/10/2008 6:58:05 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: brytlea

P.S. I’d hate to work in Jalapeno factory. They must have to wear haz mat suits.


43 posted on 07/10/2008 6:58:47 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: CindyDawg

Ditto...


44 posted on 07/10/2008 7:05:55 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: beaversmom

LOL yes, it’s misery! My husband once put his contacts in after touching them—he had washed his hands but I guess he didn’t get all of the oil of. OOOO man that hurt (at least he says it did and I believe him!)
susie


45 posted on 07/10/2008 7:07:55 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: CindyDawg
Out of a population of 300 million people 200 got sick and that was enough to destroy the harvests of tomatoe growers all over Florida who watched their crops rot. Now it's up to 1000 and it turns out it may have had nothing to do with tomatoes after all.

This kind of hype and fear mongering makes me sick. How many people get salmonella every day from eating friedd chicken? What's it cause? A day or two of diarhea? Sheesh! We're becoming the big babies the nanny state wants us to be!

46 posted on 07/10/2008 7:14:04 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: brytlea

Ah gee, in your eyes would be the worst. I imagine getting hit with pepper spray must be awful too. I wonder how long the spray takes to wear off?


47 posted on 07/10/2008 7:15:45 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: pgkdan

It makes me sick to think about all the tomatoes that were wasted and all the money lost. I totally agree with you.

Stuff like this always reminds me of the video by Tracey Ullman giving Americans their “daily dose of fear”:

Tracey Ullman as Campbell Brown Compilation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4eTbfp74o


48 posted on 07/10/2008 7:19:41 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: pgkdan

“Horror, terror, horror terror, nightmare, horror fear!” LOL :)


49 posted on 07/10/2008 7:21:22 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: pgkdan
It's bigger than just a Florida problem. This could affect all of our produce economy.The people that track this stuff are really smart people. By this time they normally would have narrowed the contamination to a region...city...block...restaurant...employee. It bothers me that they can't seem to get a handle on this. First it was spinach...then tomatoes...then salsa...and now peppers. Do they know and just aren't telling or can they not find the source?
50 posted on 07/10/2008 7:22:39 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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