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McCain surrogate Fiorina's campaign gaffes drawing criticism
SFGate.com ^ | 7/9/08 | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 07/09/2008 5:52:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Carly Fiorina has headed a major Silicon Valley corporation, ascended to the rank of America's top female business icon, authored a book - and now is on the short list of possible GOP vice presidential candidates.

But now the former CEO of Hewlett-Packard has a new challenge: As a leader of Republican National Committee's 2008 "Victory" drive and a chief adviser to presidential candidate John McCain, she's being buffeted by intense criticism that, as a star campaign surrogate, she is playing fast and loose with the facts.

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It wasn't the first such slip-up, Keenan said. Fiorina's public reassurance to a group of former Hillary Clinton supporters in Columbus, Ohio, raised hackles after she said the Arizona senator "has never signed on to efforts to overturn Roe v. Wade."

But McCain has repeatedly underscored his opposition to abortion and has said on the campaign trail that the landmark law that protects a woman's right to abortion procedures "should be overturned."

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With the campaigns of both McCain and Obama in high gear, the critiques underscore how Fiorina's high-profile role could get increasing attention - and raise more questions about her business history.

... At HP, she oversaw the controversial merger of HP and Compaq that resulted in thousands of layoffs, stagnant earnings and the flight of leading HP talent. She was fired and walked out with a $21 million severance package.

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"Carly Fiorina has talked about outsourcing and defined it as 'rightsourcing,' " he said. And Fiorina, who laid off 18,000 HP workers during the company "restructuring," once noted that her big mistake was that she didn't lay some off fast enough, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; fiorina; gaffe; gaffes; mccain; rino; surrogate; twirp
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1 posted on 07/09/2008 5:52:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Looks like Fiorina is high on the list of VP possibles.

Thus SF Gate's virulent attack.

They don't want another woman to ascend to high office where Hitlery failed.

2 posted on 07/09/2008 5:59:08 PM PDT by what's up
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To: NormsRevenge

Refresh my memory but is this not the woman that screwed up Hewlett Packard and was let go??? My daughter worked for them for 15 years and doesn’t talk very well about this person.


3 posted on 07/09/2008 5:59:34 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: NormsRevenge

This is not about gaffes. It is simply about smearing someone high in the McCain campaign in hopes it will hurt McCain.


4 posted on 07/09/2008 5:59:42 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: fish hawk

Well that seems to be their line of attack. Others have disputed it.


5 posted on 07/09/2008 6:00:57 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Fiorina is far from the most capable person out there. McCain made a poor choice in letting her articulate his policy.


6 posted on 07/09/2008 6:02:08 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: what's up

I do but not her. The first thing that comes to my mind when I hear “Carly” is “the person who screwed up HP”


7 posted on 07/09/2008 6:03:05 PM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: NittanyLion
She sure did well in talking about tax cuts with Wolf Blitzer a couple of weeks ago.

Didn't let him get away with a thing.

8 posted on 07/09/2008 6:03:36 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Norman Bates

Everybody is entitled to their opinion.


9 posted on 07/09/2008 6:03:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: ari-freedom

I keep hearing that she screwed up. However, the merger seems to have done wonders for the stock.


10 posted on 07/09/2008 6:04:55 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Norman Bates

This is not about gaffes. It is simply about smearing someone high in the McCain campaign in hopes it will hurt McCain.

I think the ‘Anointed Juan’ does a fine job by himself.


11 posted on 07/09/2008 6:05:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: ari-freedom

She did not screw up HP. The crazy board forced her out because they did not like the Compaq deal. The Compaq deal eventually saved HP.


12 posted on 07/09/2008 6:07:43 PM PDT by Pinetop
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To: NormsRevenge
she is playing fast and loose with the facts.

This in a freaking NEWS STORY? This is written like an Obama campaign press release.

The Old Media can't die soon enough. Die, die, die.

13 posted on 07/09/2008 6:08:07 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: what's up

check the HPQ stock chart, it didn’t begin to move up until “AFTER” Carly was fired. In fact, news of Carly’s firing moved the stock up that very same day.


14 posted on 07/09/2008 6:08:35 PM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: ari-freedom

and Lucent!!!

If McCain picks her I would work for Obama. (Not really, but I would sit out the election in protest)


15 posted on 07/09/2008 6:10:02 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: Republican Party Reptile
If the merger she headed hadn't taken place HP would most likely be a dead company and would have no stock today.
16 posted on 07/09/2008 6:11:00 PM PDT by what's up
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To: NormsRevenge

What’s that supposed to mean? My comment wasn’t directed at you but at SF Gate.


17 posted on 07/09/2008 6:12:24 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: what's up

Looks like Fiorina is high on the list of VP possibles.

Oh yeah, right up there with Lieberman... and hUckabee. :-}


18 posted on 07/09/2008 6:13:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: what's up

I love my HP/Compaq Proliant Server. Milspec quality and great support.


19 posted on 07/09/2008 6:14:02 PM PDT by threeoeight
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To: NormsRevenge

Yes, this is a smear job. A bunch of nonsense.

But it’s also true that Carly Fiorina screwed up royally at Hewlett Packard and had to be fired. She is a lousy choice as a financial adviser. It’s just that SFGate is too stupid to know what the problem is.


20 posted on 07/09/2008 6:14:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't think the VP will be a white male.

We shall see.

21 posted on 07/09/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by what's up
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To: fish hawk

No offense to any of the gals...

But, this woman was/is nothing more than A Diversity prop up in Corporate America...

Anyone who has worked for a Fortune 500 company knows what I am talking about...


22 posted on 07/09/2008 6:15:25 PM PDT by Lonely Are The Brave
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To: Norman Bates

It’s Carla’s opinion, she’s a lib, remember.. Lighten up.


23 posted on 07/09/2008 6:15:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Pinetop

No, the board backed her for the CPQ deal, she was fired by the board more than 3 years after the meger was completed becayse she just wasn’t a very competnet operational CEO. You can;t keep missing your quarterly numbers and expect to stay on as CEO of a public company.

Did the merger work? Yes, HP is performaing well under current CEO Mark Hurd. So Carly may have been right to push for the merger, that doesn’t mean she was competent to run the post-(ore even pre) merger company.


24 posted on 07/09/2008 6:15:52 PM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: NormsRevenge

But has she talked about chopping off anyone’s mivonks yet?


25 posted on 07/09/2008 6:17:51 PM PDT by Redcloak ("Yes, I have been drinking. Why do you ask?" #1 on the list of "Things heard from McCain voters")
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To: NormsRevenge; denydenydeny

This does read like an Obama press release. ‘Anointed Juan’? You must mean ‘Anointed One’.


26 posted on 07/09/2008 6:18:23 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Cicero

I had to chop the article up a bit, I hope folks can stomach going there to see it in its entirety.

Unfortunately, Smear jobs are par for the course these days. I’m sure Carla will print a retraction for all the items she got wrong. ;-)


27 posted on 07/09/2008 6:19:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I seriously doubt she’s a liberal. If so she would’ve been gung ho for Hillary.


28 posted on 07/09/2008 6:19:26 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: what's up

nor mcdole’s age.


29 posted on 07/09/2008 6:19:37 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Norman Bates

My comment stands as does McCain’s stance on CFR and Comprehensive Immigration Reform.


30 posted on 07/09/2008 6:20:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Lonely Are The Brave

Nothing drives up my ol’ dad’s (a thirty year HP man) blood pressure than the mention of this woman’s name.


31 posted on 07/09/2008 6:20:29 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: what's up

so? she may very well be right (in fact, I’ll say she is right) about the strategic direction to pursue the merger, that didn’t make her a competent CEO to actually run the company. A group of Mckinsey consultants could have came up with the same rationale for the merger, but that doesn’t make them CEO material either.


32 posted on 07/09/2008 6:20:47 PM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: Norman Bates

Are you implying she’s a marxist if she is for Obama. :-o


33 posted on 07/09/2008 6:20:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

She thought she was the prom queen of hi-tech, parading around the Houston campus of what was Compaq, soaking in the adolescent adoration of unthinking employees who agreed with her that “Large is a winning strategy”.

There was much rejoicing when she left, though she raped the coffers in so doing.

The GOP needs better.


34 posted on 07/09/2008 6:22:33 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: NormsRevenge
SEPARATED AT BIRTH


35 posted on 07/09/2008 6:23:36 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: fish hawk
I can say from personal experience, she was one of the worst CEO’s we have ever had.

We would attend corporate meetings with Carly, she would speak for an hour and a half and leave everyone wondering what in the hell did she just say.

She's perfect for politics....absolutely perfect.

Carly Fiorina is an expert in the art of massaging and distorting truth.

If McCain chooses this woman as VP, he won't be getting my already apprehensive support for his presidency.

36 posted on 07/09/2008 6:25:01 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: NormsRevenge
".....and now is on the short list of possible GOP vice presidential candidates."

While I am thinking about it where do they get this information?

37 posted on 07/09/2008 6:28:56 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Norman Bates
Totally agree, they're attacking Fiorina to cover up for Obama.

But Fiorina as VP? ROFL. She'd make a great WH Press Secretary or Chief of Staff though.

38 posted on 07/09/2008 6:32:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: skeeter

I can’t blame him...

She would stand in front of crowds and advocate free trade and state we must now know how to compete in this global economy...

She got hers but the rest of you better get ready to scramble like rats to get ready to survive...

She ruined a great company...


39 posted on 07/09/2008 6:33:18 PM PDT by Lonely Are The Brave
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To: NormsRevenge

You mean secure the border first? I support that. I don’t support Obama’s amnesty plan though.


40 posted on 07/09/2008 6:34:26 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Cicero
She is a lousy choice as a financial adviser

I disagree. The woman is a great organizer and spokesperson. She has stumbled some, but who hasn't?

I think when she headed HP she was a little over her head. But she's a very gung-ho person and doesn't care where the chips fall. She has a no-nonsense attitude and guts. That's an asset, not a liability. Like I said, she'd make a great press secretary or WH chief of staff.

41 posted on 07/09/2008 6:36:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
She'd make a great WH Press Secretary or Chief of Staff though.

Hey, I like your thinking! I agree - I never saw her as a serious contender for VP. The talking heads just like to flatter themselves with their cleverness.
42 posted on 07/09/2008 6:39:05 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

Candidates will say almost anything to get elected,, and then some.

If you buy the secure the border first bit, I got a bridge for ya, cheap.


43 posted on 07/09/2008 6:39:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: what's up

Just answer the question of whose best interest is it to snipe at Fiorina? Do you suppose that the SF Gate is simply being fair and balanced, or do you suppose that they are carrying water for Obama and the DNC with this plant article?


44 posted on 07/09/2008 6:42:17 PM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: NormsRevenge

McCain has a record of reform. I think he understands that this has reached a boiling point and the border must be secured.

Bridge? McCain was against that too. LOL


45 posted on 07/09/2008 6:45:49 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Obadiah
Do you suppose that the SF Gate is simply being fair and balanced

LOL. Fat chance.

Truth is...they would hate to see the Repubs be the first to get a woman in one of the top slots.

46 posted on 07/09/2008 6:49:40 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

She makes me vomit. For one thing you would think a woman her age could hold her head still while she talks. I believe she is to the left of mccain but what do i know.


47 posted on 07/09/2008 6:50:56 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: Norman Bates

McCain has a record of reform.

Oh yeah.

Terrorists can sleep easier knowing they won’t be waterboarded or have to stay at Gitmo if caught.. and who cares that freedom of speech was infringed? and borders? who needs ‘em?

Where’s his coattails, btw? He must have the same tailor as aRnold.


48 posted on 07/09/2008 6:52:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Norman Bates

McCain has a record of reform.

Oh yeah.

Terrorists can sleep easier knowing they won’t be waterboarded or have to stay at Gitmo if caught.. and who cares that freedom of speech was infringed? and borders? who needs ‘em?

Where’s his coattails, btw? He must have the same tailor as aRnold.


49 posted on 07/09/2008 6:52:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Norman Bates
It is simply about smearing someone high in the McCain campaign in hopes it will hurt McCain

Are you folks paid by the RNC?

If Norman Bates has even a smattering of conservatism in his soul, Norman would recognize that the problem is not with the opposition or their sycophants.

The problem is with the angry, liberal, little man with a Napoleonic complex and his new spokesman who nearly destroyed a perfectly good company. One is the definition of a political looser and the other a business failure in spades.

50 posted on 07/09/2008 6:54:23 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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