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Flabby men, flabby sperm: Overweight men may have trouble having kids
NY Daily News ^ | July 9th 2008 | Grant Junkie

Posted on 07/09/2008 8:26:50 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

Too many fatty foods are dangerous not only to men's waistlines, but to their sperm production.

In research presented Wednesday at a meeting of the European Society of Human Reproduction and Embryology, scientists found that obese men have worse sperm than normal-weight men.

"There is a very long list of health hazards from being overweight," said Ghiyath Shayeb, the study's lead researcher at the University of Aberdeen. "Now we can add poor semen quality to the list."

But experts aren't sure if that necessarily means obese men face major difficulties having children.

"If you have a man who isn't fantastically fertile with a normal partner who is fertile, her fertility will compensate," said Dr. William Ledger, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Britain's University of Sheffield, who was unconnected to the study. But if both partners are heavy, Ledger said that could be a problem, since obesity is known to decrease women's fertility.

But experts aren't sure if that necessarily means obese men face major difficulties having children.

"If you have a man who isn't fantastically fertile with a normal partner who is fertile, her fertility will compensate," said Dr. William Ledger, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Britain's University of Sheffield, who was unconnected to the study.

But if both partners are heavy, Ledger said that could be a problem, since obesity is known to decrease women's fertility.

Shayeb and colleagues analyzed the sperm samples of more than 5,000 men in Scotland, and divided the men into groups according to their Body Mass Index. Men who had an optimal BMI (20 to 25) had higher levels of normal sperm than those who were overweight or obese.

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KEYWORDS: fertility; health; nannystate

1 posted on 07/09/2008 8:26:50 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Good thing I got fat after the second daughter. I dont think I could handle three teenaged girls....


2 posted on 07/09/2008 8:27:46 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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3 posted on 07/09/2008 8:29:53 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: TigersEye

I am dying laughing here... look at your freepmail for a Sassy comment.


4 posted on 07/09/2008 8:30:08 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Not surprising, more abdominal fat leads to less testosterone, less testosterone leads to lower quality sperm.
5 posted on 07/09/2008 8:31:01 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Tell that to all the fat ba$tard$ who have kids....


6 posted on 07/09/2008 8:35:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Not being fit makes it hard to even have sex if you can't reach certain places. Trust me, I know. Hehehehe

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 07/09/2008 8:35:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

The article - and hence the conclusion - is based on BMI, no abdominal fat.

Ergo...the study is crap.


8 posted on 07/09/2008 8:35:54 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

LOL! That was one hilarious “preamble”.


9 posted on 07/09/2008 8:36:22 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Shayeb and colleagues analyzed the sperm samples of more than 5,000 men in Scotland, and divided the men into groups according to their Body Mass Index.

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Fat Bastard: Yes Sir.
Colonel: And, uh, try to lose some weight, for God's sake.
Fat Bastard: Yes Sir.
[Under his breath] Fat Bastard: Mister English Colonel tellin' me to lose weight. "Oh, I'm a hard case" he says.
[louder] Fat Bastard: Well, listen up, sonny Jim: I ate a baby. Oh, aye, Baby: the other, other white meat. Baby: it's what's for dinner.

10 posted on 07/09/2008 8:37:46 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I think obesity could lower the sex appeal and sex drive in both genders.


11 posted on 07/09/2008 8:39:44 PM PDT by Notasoccermom (.)
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To: patton

Going by BMI? LOL! My husband is obese by those standards. 6’0 tall, 200 pounds, and I can’t think of anyplace he can lose more weight. Meanwhile, five children.


12 posted on 07/09/2008 8:42:22 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Eric Blair 2084

More Bull Excrement


13 posted on 07/09/2008 8:43:00 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Read the Constitution to your children make them understand what Freedom is all about !)
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To: Notasoccermom

It depends on if obese or just a basic fat guy. I know one guy who is heavy, but there is something about him that women find attractive. A personality, go figure. :)


14 posted on 07/09/2008 8:43:41 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Every Sperm is Sacred,
Every Sperm is Great,
If A Sperm is Wasted,
God Gets Quite Irate.


15 posted on 07/09/2008 8:44:06 PM PDT by rottndog (Globull Warming "Science" = garbage in, gospel out.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 07/09/2008 8:52:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: anymouse

That is hysterical.

“GET IN MY BELLY!!!!!”


17 posted on 07/09/2008 9:05:40 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: HungarianGypsy

That is the nature of bogus studies. Torture the data enough and it will tell you whatever you want to hear.

According to the eggheads in academia, 90% of NFL players are “overweight” or “obese”.

If the lame networks ABC, NBC, CBS want a reality show that gets ratings, they should let the eggheads tell an angry 6’4” 250 pound linebacker that his BMI is too high and he is a fat POS.

I would pay $49.95 on pay per view to see what happens.


18 posted on 07/09/2008 9:10:26 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Baloney. I’m fat, hit 375 at my heaviest just before I was diagnosed with hyperinsulin condition. Despite losing some weight, I’m still over 300 lbs, and yet I fathered five healthy sons, none of whom have any congenital defects, learning disabilities, or allergies. To top it off, it normally only took one or two months before my wife got pregnant after we decided it was time for another child.

We intend on having another child next year, and I’m willing to bet it won’t take more than two months before the bun gets in the oven.


19 posted on 07/09/2008 9:17:05 PM PDT by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Edward Watson

Stop braggin’, bucko.

And congrats, and good luck.


20 posted on 07/09/2008 9:30:10 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Explain, then, the people walking around Wal-Mart.


21 posted on 07/09/2008 9:30:51 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Flabby sperm. Another means of spotting the rich guy!

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22 posted on 07/09/2008 9:34:14 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: HungarianGypsy
if your husband is obese by the bmi, so are the starting Los Angeles Lakers. It looks like they need to run a bit more...lol

According to the BMI... anyone over 25 is "obese"... Here is the Laker's line up (SOURCE: http://www.espn.com )

(BMI Source: http://www.consumer.gov/weightloss/bmi.htm)

According to this, 50% of the Los Angeles Lakers are OBESE!!!! If you take into account that most NBA players are really an inch or two shorter than their stats, over 75% of them are considered "OBESE" by the BMI Index.

Should you switch to the "All Cheese Cake Diet"...no, but don't feel bad if you are on the cusp as well....there are some pretty decent athletes in your category.

Player Pos. Age. Height Weight BMI
Trevor Ariza SF 23 6-8 210 23.1
Kobe Bryant SG 29 6-6 220 25.4
Andrew Bynum C 20 7-0 275 27.4
Joe Crawford SG 22 6-5 207 24.5
Jordan Farmar PG 21 6-2 180 23.1
Derek Fisher PG 33 6-1 205 27.0
Pau Gasol PF 28 7-0 260 25.9
Coby Karl SG 25 6-5 204 24.2
DJ Mbenga C 27 7-0 255 25.4
Chris Mihm C 28 7-0 265 26.4
Ira Newble SF 33 6-7 220 24.8
Lamar Odom PF 28 6-10 230 24.0
Vladimir R. PF 27 6-10 234 24.5
Ronny Turiaf C 25 6-10 249 26.0
Sasha Vujacic SG 24 6-7 195 22.0
Luke Walton SF 28 6-8 232 25.5

23 posted on 07/09/2008 9:35:57 PM PDT by willyd (Tickets, fines, fees, permits and inspections are synonyms for taxes)
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To: Edward Watson

Golly gee willikers. You weren’t interviewed or studied by these grant junkies and paid scientific hacks?

It must have been an oversight. They are scientists after all and they want to reach the right conclusion. Doesn’t matter if it doesn’t meet the pre-planned consensus they were hired to reach.


24 posted on 07/09/2008 10:00:33 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: willyd

How about these bunch of fat asses who are going to win the Super Bowl this year? Check out the Dallas Cowboy roster.

NO NAME POS HT WT EXP COLLEGE
76 Adams, Flozell OT 6-7 340 11 Michigan State
18 Amendola, Danny WR 5-11 183 R Texas Tech
34 Anderson, Deon FB 5-10 241 1 Connecticut
87 Atchison, Drew TE 6-6 247 R William & Mary
19 Austin, Miles WR 6-3 216 3 Monmouth
92 Ayodele, Remi DT 6-2 300 2 Oklahoma
20 Ball, Alan CB 6-1 176 1 Illinois
24 Barber, Marion RB 6-0 221 4 Minnesota
4 Bartel, Richard QB 6-3 246 1 Tarleton State
80 Bennett, Martellus TE 6-6 252 R Texas A&M
67 Berger, Joe G 6-5 304 4 Michigan Tech
72 Bowen, Stephen DE 6-5 303 3 Hofstra
13 Bradford, Mark WR 6-2 215 R Stanford
27 Brown, Courtney S 6-1 203 2 Cal Poly
57 Burnett, Kevin LB 6-3 227 4 Tennessee
36 Butler, Quincy CB 6-1 185 1 TCU
99 Canty, Chris DE 6-7 299 4 Virginia
54 Carpenter, Bobby LB 6-2 248 3 Ohio State
29 Choice, Tashard RB 5-10 215 R Georgia Tech
30 Coleman, Alonzo RB 5-9 202 1 Hampton
75 Colombo, Marc OT 6-8 315 7 Boston College
84 Crayton, Patrick WR 6-0 205 5 NW Okla State
39 Crosslin, Julius FB 5-11 245 R Oklahoma State
45 Cruz, Ronnie FB 6-0 237 4 Northern State
89 Curtis, Tony TE 6-5 265 3 Portland State
47 Davis, Dowayne S 6-0 202 R Syracuse
70 Davis, Leonard G 6-6 354 8 Texas
95 Dixon, Marcus DE 6-4 294 R Hampton
98 Ellis, Greg LB 6-6 265 11 North Carolina
37 Everett, Tyler CB 5-11 202 1 Ohio State
6 Folk, Nick K 6-1 222 1 Arizona
68 Free, Doug OT 6-6 306 2 Northern Illinois
59 George, Tearrius LB 6-4 270 2 Kansas State
83 Glenn, Terry WR 5-11 196 13 Ohio State
65 Gurode, Andre C 6-4 316 7 Colorado
26 Hamlin, Ken S 6-2 206 6 Arkansas
44 Hannah, Rodney TE 6-6 255 R Houston
97 Hatcher, Jason DE 6-6 298 3 Grambling
42 Henry, Anthony CB 6-1 205 8 South Florida
17 Hurd, Sam WR 6-2 196 3 Northern Illinois
56 James, Bradie LB 6-2 239 6 Louisiana State
85 Jefferson, Mike WR 6-1 206 R Montana State
31 Jenkins, Mike CB 5-11 197 R South Florida
14 Johnson, Brad QB 6-5 235 17 Florida State
66 Johnson, Tank DT 6-3 300 5 Washington
21 Jones, Adam CB 5-10 185 3 West Virginia
28 Jones, Felix RB 5-10 207 R Arkansas
63 Kosier, Kyle G 6-5 294 7 Arizona State
91 Ladouceur, L.P. LS 6-4 251 4 California
35 Lattimore, Keon RB 5-11 222 R Maryland
79 Lekkerkerker, Cory OT 6-7 323 4 Cal Davis
52 Long, Khari LB 6-4 257 2 Baylor
78 Marten, James OT 6-7 303 2 Boston College
1 McBriar, Mat P 6-1 224 5 Hawaii
77 McQuistan, Pat OT 6-6 311 3 Weber State
41 Newman, Terence CB 5-11 181 6 Kansas State
23 Oglesby, Evan CB 5-10 185 3 N. Alabama
2 Ottovegio, Jay P 5-11 197 R Stanford
81 Owens, Terrell WR 6-3 218 13 Tenn-Chatt
15 Polk, Daniel WR 6-1 202 R Midwestern State
71 Procter, Cory C 6-4 297 4 Montana
90 Ratliff, Jay DE 6-4 298 4 Auburn
51 Robertson, Darrell DE 6-4 255 R Georgia Tech
50 Rogers, Justin LB 6-4 250 2 SMU
9 Romo, Tony QB 6-2 224 6 Eastern Illinois
32 Scandrick, Orlando CB 5-10 192 R Boise State
64 Siavii, Junior DT 6-5 330 4 Oregon
60 Smith, Marcus DE 6-4 286 R Arizona
58 Smith, Tyson LB 6-2 240 2 Iowa State
96 Spears, Marcus DE 6-4 305 4 LSU
93 Spencer, Anthony LB 6-3 257 2 Purdue
86 Stanback, Isaiah WR 6-2 208 2 Washington
61 Stenavich, Adam G 6-4 308 1 Michigan
55 Thomas, Zach LB 5-11 228 13 Texas Tech
53 Walden, Erik LB 6-2 242 R Middle Tennessee State
94 Ware, DeMarcus LB 6-4 252 4 Troy
25 Watkins, Pat S 6-5 208 3 Florida State
38 Williams, Roy S 6-0 225 7 Oklahoma
43 Wishom, Jerron CB 6-0 197 3 Louisiana Tech
82 Witten, Jason TE 6-5 266 6 Tennessee


25 posted on 07/09/2008 10:04:04 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

...oh yeah and all those skinny metro sexuals here in San Francisco are always driving around in minivans filled with healthy looking sons and daughters...yeah right.


26 posted on 07/09/2008 10:45:15 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: Vermont Lt
"Sure, I have a lot of blubber, but my first name is sperm."
27 posted on 07/09/2008 10:47:51 PM PDT by afortiori
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To: Edward Watson
I’m still over 300 lbs, and yet I fathered five healthy sons...

Jamal, Moshe, LiQuan, Homer, and Juan? ;o)

28 posted on 07/09/2008 11:52:11 PM PDT by papertyger (Life is like a turtle on a fence post...)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; Gabz

Hmmm....sounds familiar...oh, I remember-they said the same crap about smokers!


29 posted on 07/10/2008 2:39:09 AM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels was like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I’m guessing that they all haven’t seen the movie “Wall-E” yet. Being obese was not a problem when it came to reproduction.


30 posted on 07/10/2008 7:54:50 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
In research presented Wednesday at a meeting of the European Society of Human Reproduction and Embryology, scientists found that obese men have worse sperm than normal-weight men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf107pgOLRQ

31 posted on 07/10/2008 9:46:22 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: johnnycap
oh yeah and all those skinny metro sexuals here in San Francisco are always driving around in minivans filled with healthy looking sons and daughters...yeah right.

At the risk of upsetting creationists, let me just point out that it took thousands of years for Darwin's theory of evolution to manifest itself in Giraffes. Give it time for the abortion lovers and homosexuals to weed themselves out of the gene pool without any Gubmint involvement.

32 posted on 07/11/2008 4:06:14 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

We’re taking the kids to see Wall-E. Was it any good?


33 posted on 07/11/2008 4:07:14 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Nonsense. Once the smokers are all sent to concentration camps (outside in the cold) or re-education programs (quit smoking programs sponsored by the STATE), that will be the end of it.

You are just paranoid and don’t understand that people are annoyed by smoke.


34 posted on 07/11/2008 4:09:39 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I was pretty overweight we I was younger, Didn’t stop me from having 3 kids in 3 years & 11 months!!


35 posted on 07/11/2008 4:17:29 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

It depends on who you talk to. I liked it, but others were either bored by it, or got some “green messages” from seeing it. It will truly take A LOT for me to hate any movie made by PIXAR! I’m also not one to spoil anybody about what truly happens with any movie, whether it’s a good movie or not. Have fun!


36 posted on 07/11/2008 6:45:18 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Wall-E was so bad I almost ate my hands sitting through it.

You are right. It’s a liberal puff piece. My daughter fell asleep on my arm. My son is a good boy, he tried hard to laugh.

What a load of shit. It was a transparent progressive piece to indoctrinate the chilruns into environmentalism and fitness by boring them to tears and scaring the snot out of them.

Thankfully, they forgot the first rule. The kids have to be awake to see it.


37 posted on 07/14/2008 9:26:48 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I don’t go to see movies often. Hubby has to twist my arm. I just hate wasting money on Hollywood nonsense and overpriced popcorn and soda. When hubby wants to see a movie, I encourage him to take our children. heh. A few weeks ago, he wanted to see Ironman or something that a bunch of coworkers of his said was great. I admit I don’t even know if that is the movie. But I did not want to go. I let up a bit and said I would go see the Indiana Jones’ flick. It was mildly entertaining but stupid. Hubby was so disappointed. Then two of our daughters went to see Wall-E. We asked them if it was any good. One of them didn’t really watch the movie because she was talking to her friend during most of the film. That should have been a sign. Our other daughter said it was “good.” We’ll never listen to her again!

A week or so after our girls saw the movie, hubby agreed that we, including myself, would take several of our other children to see a movie. We ended up going to Wall-E. Oh my goodness, was that a waste—A WASTE—of time and money!!!!!!!!!! Hubby felt so bad that he had conned me into going. He fears I will never go to another movie with him. I think he laughed three times in the film. Each time, he looked at me, and I remained stoic. We shouldda picked that panda film. Meanwhile, hubby took our two oldest boys to see Hancock, and the boys loved it. Hubby knew I wouldn’t approve of much of the language and gratuitous violence, but I could tell he enjoyed the movie. It must’ve had a bit of “male humor” interspersed. Hubby had to lecture the boys about some of the language used in the film to make sure they didn’t go out and repeat it. I bet no one in our family goes to see another movie at the movie theater for a long while . . .


38 posted on 07/14/2008 9:41:16 PM PDT by petitfour
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