Posted on 07/10/2008 4:57:14 AM PDT by chessplayer
That’s right; Pat Buchanan, who is a frequent guest on both Fox News and MSNBC, appeared recently on an infamous “white nationalist” radio show to promote his revisionist World War II book
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Pastor Wright has a radio show?
Most liberals think Rush Limbaugh’s show is that way.I can’t get the site to pull up
Why does it matter what show he goes on. Are Republicans now becoming the thought police as well?
Father Coughlin lives.
How are they any different from LaRaza?
I think Pat has the right to do what he wants to do. I am troubled by Pat’s apologistic attitude towards the Nazis and his anti-israeli sentiments.
Why would you bring up “thought police”? Who’s policing thought? One ought to take note of white supremicists and neo-nazis, don’t you think? Pat is a revisionist liar. We need to make note of that, don’t we?
It does not.
Mr. Buchanan is free to go on whatever show he wants.
I am free to never read anything he writes nor listen to anything he says.
I think the author is ascribing beliefs to the show that they might not hold. Neo-nazi is a pretty strong term, I looked at the radio shows website, and while I’m not comfortable with all their positions, I wouldn’t say that are in the same vain as the American Nazi Party or the other various National Socialism groups in the U.S. You do realize that LGF sourced this from the New Republic?
Well said.
Buchanan is a nut that occasionally makes a good point regarding cultural capitulation.
Little Green Footballs has its problems too, namely attacking anyone who appreciates their heritage and culture by labeling them racists and Nazis and the like. They are just another tribe with a lot less history behind them than the nations and peoples they attack.
So in the end, I pay attention to neither. Each are witch hunters in their own right.
You cut to the heart of the matter. Racism is racism. But liberalism is based on hypocrisy and liberals give racism a free pass if the racism emanates from anyone with a little color to their skin tone. This forum has become all too populated with those who condemn Buchanan and rightly so, but give boys like the RINO relic a pass when he panders for votes from racists who history may not have sheets or swatiskas in their past, but just as contemptible racists nonetheless.
Thank's for playing the LGF/New Republic strawman, not much else to do in the face of facts.
Political Cesspool has had long ties to the neonazi community, in fact was founded by a contributor to Willis Carto's American Free Press. It's provided a platform for many of the nations most prominent Jewhaters and racists over the years. And no, this isn't Pat's first appearance. Your suggestion that folks like David Duke, Don Black, and Willis Carto aren't n the same vain as the American Nazi Party or the other various National Socialism groups is laughable, they're in the forefront of the movement.
Pat goes where he feels most comfortable.
Sometimes I wonder whether Pat keeps pigeons on the roof of his apartment building.
So are Jerome Corsi, Chuck Baldwin, Michael Peroutka and Michael Badnarik now neo-Nazi sympathizers?
Haven’t a clue, but they they’ve shown the poor judgement to to appear on a show that’s got a long history of pandering to Jew haters and racists. If they feel comfortable there, that’s great. If you feel comfortable there, that’s great. But they shouldn’t be offended when people notice they’re dining in hogslop.
Are you happy with “white supremacist?” It doesn’t have the same ring, especially with regard to Buchanan’s book.
Right, "conservatives" should pretend that people like David Duke, Willis Carto and Don Black have no connection with neonazis, or the KKK, never have. It's no wonder "conservatives" get trashed with the libel of being accepting of these jerks and their ideology.
I haven’t read Buchanan’s book so I can’t comment on it. By the time I would have time to read it, it will probably be irrelevant.
Pat Buchanan owes his continued prominence to the MSM, who give him a grandstand on TV, while denying coverage to mainstream conservatives. Buchanan has never held elected office and ran for President only on a laughable fringe-party ticket, yet the the left uses his indiscretions and wacky ideas to discredit conservatism. Meanwhile someone like John Kerry, who has repeatedly given aid and comfort to this country’s enemies in time of war, and came within a whisker of becoming President on a major party ticket, is never called to account by the media.
You are putting words in my mouth. What I am saying is that conservatives should refrain from using the tactics of the left.
Is irrepairable a word? Am I looking for irreparable?
I appreciate that you may well not be familiar with the show or the nature of many of their guests, but their "pedigrees" are well established, and do in fact include associations with the American Nazi party and the KKK. So what I'm telling you is that LGF isn't using the tactics of the left, that they're pointing out that Pat appeared on a program which provides a platform for hate movements in America. Which they do.
If Pat wants to appear there, that's his choice, he'll sell books in that community, but it's perfectly fair to point out the nature of the clientele he's pursuing. Which has a large number of haters and conspiracy nuts.
No, I mean irrelevant as in no one will be talking about it.
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LGF sourced this from the New Republic...I believe it.
I am not a fan of the self-righteous LGF especially after their rediculous attack on anti-Islamic European websites like the Gates of Vienna. LGF seems to be on a jihad against what they imagine is Neo-Nazism.
People read the book and dismissed it as nuttiness. So yes, it's irrelevant.
I tend to agree with PastorTony. LGF goes use tactics of the left - smearing by the the use of labels and guilt by association rather than defeating the argument on its merits.
Their attempts to smear the right of center pro-American Swedish political party Sverigedemocraterna party was particularly abhorrent. LGF's coziness with some members of far left European thug groups AFA and Expo is particularly disturbing and makes LGF a bit hypocritical when it attempts to smear by association.
But mistake none of this for a defense of Buchanan.
www.littlegreenfootballs.com isn’t working. I am not sure why you excerpted, anyway, as they are not on the excerpt list.
When was the last time Pat Buchanan was on FoxNews? I would think that he has a contract with MSNBC.
I agree that LGF does use tactics of the left - smearing by the the use of labels and guilt by association rather than defeating the argument on its merits....
Here is the source article
I see your point. In a more limited sense, however, it is not irrelevant to Buchanan's appearance on this radio program.
I’m the one that brought up the word irrelevant. My point was that by the time I get to read the book it will be long forgotten
It matters a lot. It matters who you give your time to.
These people are repugnant. Would it be ok if he went a show that was advancing beliefs of pedophiles? Of course not.
And I don't care that Democrats support leftist, anti-American groups; that shows where their core beliefs are.
Conservatives stand for freedom and a dislike of tyranny. Neo Nazis are repugnant people who have no place in a land of free people.
They do have the freedom to hold their sick beliefs, but they should be shunned by thinking people.
I'm a pretty consistent FNC watcher and I haven't seen him there in ages. "Frequent Fox News guest",...not.
Chuck Baldwin is certainly not Neo-Nazi. His statement of faith includes a future restoration of Israel in accord with most moderately dispensational Baptist preachers; of which he is one, if I understand his background, and if he hasn't made some wild swing recently.
Some years ago a book appeared (I read it) called, ISRAEL, OUR DUTY, OUR DILEMNA, which was endorsed by Pastor Everet Silivan (Nebraska), and some read as altogether anti-Israel. These people are called Reconstructionists, and dote heavily on men like Rushdoony. I don't believe any of them are bad men, nor violently oriented. They are nationalists who believe that America can be returned to the politics of the 18th century, or something like that.
I don't know if Chuck Baldwin has been influenced in that direction, but I also don't see any Neo-Nazi leanings.
Great response.
BTTT
This is the common media pattern. Their token conservatives are either people with sordid views such as Pat “Hitler wasn’t such a bad guy” Buchanan, or they’re ineffective, passive types who just sit there and get shouted down.
There are a few exceptions, of course.
LGF seems to have caught the Kevin Phillips Syndrome. Phillips was a prominent conservative writer in the seventies and eighties, But when other conservative writers came along, often better writers than he was, his popularity faded. He revived his career and became a media star for a few years by tracking hard to the left on social issues such as abortion. He accused the new conservative writers who had surpassed him of being Ayatollahs and maniacal puritans who were trying to invade our bedrooms. The media lapped it up and for years he was toasted as a “sane” voice of conservatism.
I think LGF has seen their fortunes decline as the conservative blogosphere has expanded, and they hope to get some favorable liberal media and blog publicity by attacking people like Lawrence Auster and Diana West as Nazi sympathizers or fascist enablers, or whatever.
Of course, even a loose cannon hits its target every once in a while, and LGF is probably correct about Buchanan being a bit too cozy to the Nazis. But their attacks on others have been laughable.
Thanks for the expansion of the LGF morphing into the police enforcing what they think is a anti-Nazi role.
we will doubtlessly see other so called right leaning sites do the same thing.
Beginning to? FR has been banning the writing of these clowns and their publications since before LGF existed.
In the more things stay the same variety, the show is run by a contributor to Willis Carto’s (for those not familiar, generally regarded as America’s most successful Holocaust denier) AFP, you might recall that when Pat dabbled in denial himself with his unexplained “you can’t kill Jews with diesel fumes” nonsense it was printed in the Spotlight, Carto’s predecessor to AFP from his Liberty Lobby days. Printed with thanks for “mainstreaming” the topic.
Pat was on Hannity and Colmes just a few days ago.
Why is FreeRepublic being mis-used as a forum to broadcast leftist propaganda slander against conservatives? Please take it to moveon.org or some such place. There should be no room here for false allegations of “Nazis” — the knee-jerk response left-wingers have to every conservative.
There are plenty of good reasons to go after Buchanan, this isn't one.
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